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All I can say is that I hope the BBWAA do the right thing and never vote any of these scumbags in. Character-Integrity-Sportsmanship- thats 3 of the traits they vote on and thats three that juicers do not have. period.
player records, playing ability, contributions to team?
Not to be a jerk or anything, but you know Ty Cobb was one of the biggest, scummiest, most racist pieces of sh*t to ever play a professional sport, right?
Ty Cobb, as stated before. And should we take out Mickey Mantle from the hall of fame because he was a womanizing alcoholic, that probably never truly reached his destined position as greatest of all time because of that fact? A lot of guys didn't have "good character" when they played, but are still in the hall of fame is all I'm saying. It's a double standard clause.
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^If you think old school players didn't cheat, that's exhibit A. Baseball has always been about pushing the boundaries on what you can get away with. There are plently of players in the HOF who have "cheated" in one way or another. For example: Vaseline on the cap, sharpened spikes, scuffing the ball, corked bats, etc.
And if Roids aren't against league rules when these guys are playing, how is it cheating? In the case of Bonds that is. I don't recall Barry sitting out any games due to a suspension.
^If you think old school players didn't cheat, that's exhibit A. Baseball has always been about pushing the boundaries on what you can get away with. There are plently of players in the HOF who have "cheated" in one way or another. For example: Vaseline on the cap, sharpened spikes, scuffing the ball, corked bats, etc.
Post by Alberto Balsalm on Jan 31, 2013 0:47:36 GMT -5
Yeah baseball was practically founded on cheating. If you're gonna pull the character, integrity and sportsmanship card you can throw out just about every player pre-1940 except for Walter Johnson. That's just BS.
Then again, so is the entire Baseball Hall of Fame and especially the BBWAA. Biggest thing that's wrong with baseball right now IMO.
And what really funny about all of this is that I might be working for the Hall of Fame this summer.
^If you think old school players didn't cheat, that's exhibit A. Baseball has always been about pushing the boundaries on what you can get away with. There are plently of players in the HOF who have "cheated" in one way or another. For example: Vaseline on the cap, sharpened spikes, scuffing the ball, corked bats, etc.
And, you know, greenies and cocaine.
I mean, you really don't want to strike this gem from the record books...http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1940150,00.html
And that's actually pretty cool Balsalm. What exactly are you going to be doing?
I merely stated that steroid users should not be because they do not have C-I-S. Are there players in the HOF that also have questionable character? Yes, of course. Plenty. Should the character clause be taken out of the voting process? Some argue yes, some argue no. Whats in the past is done, those players are in. That doesnt mean that current era guys who cheat, etc should make it just because those that came before them did.
I'm also curious as to how you came to statement that you arent surprised I'm making this argument? Ive only been on this forum a little over two weeks and now you know my thought process?
I'm also curious as to how you came to statement that you arent surprised I'm making this argument? Ive only been on this forum a little over two weeks and now you know my thought process?
You got all that hippy-dippy "Bonnaroo, as I understand it, is a state of being" nonsense going on. I mean that in the nicest possible way. Your heart is cold and cynical like the rest of us.
Nonsense ? My heart is cold and cynical for 361 days a year. However, those 4 days on the farm give me hope that there is still some good left in humanity.
Nonsense ? My heart is cold and cynical for 361 days a year. However, those 4 days on the farm give me hope that there is still some good left in humanity.
And that's actually pretty cool Balsalm. What exactly are you going to be doing?
It's an internship I applied for, and with my experience (Sports writer at the Akron Beacon Journal and ohio.com) and my connections (My Dad knows one of the guys who chooses the applicants for the internship) I'm feeling hopefully confident that I get the spot.
As for the actual work, I would be doing one of two things if I get the spot.
#1 would be researching and writing about baseball history and baseball artifacts to support the exhibits at the museum. Linking the artifacts and exhibits to American culture at the time and writing labels and plaques for new exhibits
#2 would be a PR type of thing, producing copy for the web site and magazine, assisting in research for publications, editing press releases, assembling press kits, etc.
Either one would be really cool as a baseball fanatic to work at the Hall of Fame and as an aspiring baseball writer it would be an incredible opportunity for my resume and future career
