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Your first link doesn't work, so I have no idea what you're relying on for Zambrano staying in Chi. I'm assuming it was the report from KFFL.com/ MLB.com that the Cubs' GM says he think Zambrano wants to stay. If anything, this article from this morning in the Chi Sun-Times suggests the opposite: www.suntimes.com/sports/2864388-419/zambrano-cubs-yankees-rothschild-pitching.html Additionally, there are just too many rumors out there to ignore. I think Z accepts a trade to NYY if it's out there.
If anyone would/could trade for Zambrano, it'd be NYY. Check his numbers from last year - solid in August, great in September/October. Since the Yankees can absolutely take on his bloated salary, they could toss a minimal prospect the Cubs' way. They NYY rotation is in shambles right now - CC is their only truly reliable starter, then maybe Hughes, Pettite is probably not coming back, Burnett is terrible...Big Z has had his problems, but look at his track record:
Even in his worst years (probably 2007-2008), he would still be a viable 4th starter, and his strong finish to last year suggest that he can still pitch, so with the dire situation on the market right now, I'd be shocked if the Yanks don't make a move for him.
Your first link doesn't work, so I have no idea what you're relying on for Zambrano staying in Chi. I'm assuming it was the report from KFFL.com/ MLB.com that the Cubs' GM says he think Zambrano wants to stay. If anything, this article from this morning in the Chi Sun-Times suggests the opposite: www.suntimes.com/sports/2864388-419/zambrano-cubs-yankees-rothschild-pitching.html Additionally, there are just too many rumors out there to ignore. I think Z accepts a trade to NYY if it's out there.
If anyone would/could trade for Zambrano, it'd be NYY. Check his numbers from last year - solid in August, great in September/October. Since the Yankees can absolutely take on his bloated salary, they could toss a minimal prospect the Cubs' way. They NYY rotation is in shambles right now - CC is their only truly reliable starter, then maybe Hughes, Pettite is probably not coming back, Burnett is terrible...Big Z has had his problems, but look at his track record:
Even in his worst years (probably 2007-2008), he would still be a viable 4th starter, and his strong finish to last year suggest that he can still pitch, so with the dire situation on the market right now, I'd be shocked if the Yanks don't make a move for him.
Cliff Lee returning to philly is gonna make for some good times. hopefully the phillies can sign another corner outfielder, preferably batting right, to platoon the outfield with dom brown.
also, with the return of cliff lee, the national media and espn can go suck it- no longer can they take cheap potshots at our city and fanbase. im sure people like mike wilbon and other philly haters will always bring up things like the santa clause bs, but when an athlete turns down more money to return to this city, that speaks volumes to the passion and loyalty of our fans.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Dec 17, 2010 14:05:07 GMT -5
I was just thinking the opposite^, I'm already sick of all the Philly love. Things like comparing the rotation to the 93 Braves, which featured 3 future HoF'ers and Steve Avery's best season. I wouldn't even say they are markedly better than the Giants current rotation, the one that beat the Phillies only a few months ago. This is obviously a great signing, but the Phillies still have the same problems they did last year, and are unlikely to get a repeat from Halladay and Oswalt, who both had great seasons even compared to their standards, especially Oswalt who played out of his mind in Philly.
I'm not a Philly hater, but people are way overreacting to this deal.
The Phillies signed the best free agent pitcher of the off season, a cy young award winner. What's the "overreacting"?
I agree with the point that the phils rotation is only slightly better than the giants. And this year they need to hit in the clutch, something they didn't do last year in the nlcs. and oswalt may not be as stellar as he was last year. that much is true. but how can you say the same thing about halladay? hallday is a star pitcher, theres no base to the claim that he will not repeat his success
and "all the philly love"? ive never seen it.
EDIT: i am not calling you a philly hater, just merely disagreeing with your claims/opinion/whatnot. that was in reference to the national media/espns perception of this city
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Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Dec 17, 2010 14:45:44 GMT -5
I think Halladay will be a Cy Young contender as usual, but last year was pretty much his best year, so I expect a slight drop off. I'm not saying that this isn't a top 2 rotation, i'm just saying its an overreaction to be hearing things like comparing these guys to the 93 Braves.
Gotcha. It's annoying for me to hear those comparisons as well. It's not even 2011 yet so it's def too early to compare them to the 93 braves. On paper, maybe that comparison could be made, but it means nothing until the season starts.
Mar 14 Sheepdogs/Fitz & The Tantrums/City & Colour (Austin)
Mar 15 Jim James (Austin)
Apr 26 Jim James (Boston)
May 4 Clutch & The Sword (Portland ME)
Jun 8 DMB (Hartford)
Jun 21 Jim James (Northampton MA)
Jul 27-28 Newport Folk
Aug 6 Death Grips (Boston)
Oct 25-27 MOEMS
Mar 14 Sheepdogs/Fitz & The Tantrums/City & Colour (Austin)
Mar 15 Jim James (Austin)
Apr 26 Jim James (Boston)
May 4 Clutch & The Sword (Portland ME)
Jun 8 DMB (Hartford)
Jun 21 Jim James (Northampton MA)
Jul 27-28 Newport Folk
Aug 6 Death Grips (Boston)
Oct 25-27 MOEMS
He's like you made an über troll by taking the worst parts of me (the utter disregard for other people's opinions), Phi (cluttering up threads with memes and adding nothing to a discussion) and Jess (an apparent belief that everyone else is the problem and/or arrogance without self awareness).
Wrong!! It's obvious Royals and the Nationals for the World Series. Lol
Shout out to my Nats for overpaying Jayson Werth and not being able to keep Adam Dunn. Wooooo!!! On the plus side. we have Bryce Harper and hopefully a well healed Strasburg who put up the best rookie season for a pitcher EVER!
As far as a legit WS prediction Phillies/Yankees. Rematch of '09 World Series, Phillies in 6.
Wrong!! It's obvious Royals and the Nationals for the World Series. Lol
Shout out to my Nats for overpaying Jayson Werth and not being able to keep Adam Dunn. Wooooo!!! On the plus side. we have Bryce Harper and hopefully a well healed Strasburg who put up the best rookie season for a pitcher EVER!
As far as a legit WS prediction Phillies/Yankees. Rematch of '09 World Series, Phillies in 6.
Harper won't be called up this year, especially as Strasburg probably won't be doing much pitching this year. Very strange year for them to overspend on the likes of Jayson Werth.
If the Yankees make the World Series, let alone the playoffs, with all the crippled/aging bodies on that roster and a piss-poor starting rotation, it will be sure proof that there is no God.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Jan 14, 2011 0:58:44 GMT -5
Yanks sign Rafael Soriano in what I think is an excellent move. For the regular season I think they will be able to ride a strong bullpen to the post season, mostly likely as the wildcard assuming Boston stays healthy.
Mar 14 Sheepdogs/Fitz & The Tantrums/City & Colour (Austin)
Mar 15 Jim James (Austin)
Apr 26 Jim James (Boston)
May 4 Clutch & The Sword (Portland ME)
Jun 8 DMB (Hartford)
Jun 21 Jim James (Northampton MA)
Jul 27-28 Newport Folk
Aug 6 Death Grips (Boston)
Oct 25-27 MOEMS
He's like you made an über troll by taking the worst parts of me (the utter disregard for other people's opinions), Phi (cluttering up threads with memes and adding nothing to a discussion) and Jess (an apparent belief that everyone else is the problem and/or arrogance without self awareness).
Hoping for some big seasons from Drabek and JPA... Some continued success from Romero, Morrow, and Batista as well as a bounce back year from Hill and Lind.
We will see. I think this is the Braves' year (just like every other year). Atlanta needs a championship.
I'm so sorry it's been 16 years since you've won a World Series .
Sorry, it's just hard not to be bitter when you're a fan of a team who extravagantly celebrated the 25th anniversary of a team that LOST in the motherquacking World Series. Since I've only been alive for one playoff berth ever, this is easily the giddiest I've ever been before a Brewers season. Greinke+Marcum+Weeks extension+very under the radar/underrated signing of Saito = me being very excite.
Oh, and as much as I hate the Cards (a shiz ton), it totally sucks about Wainwright. Even though he's still very highly regarded he manages to be underrated. Guy's a stud.
I didn't mean the Braves per se; just Atlanta sports. 1 championship in a combined 153 seasons. We ranked #2 in most miserable sports cities behind Seattle.
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