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Please explain to me why FIP correlating better on what the FIP will be for a particular player the following year has anything to do with actually measuring the player's ability at pitching.
The article you linked also said that K/9 correlates the best of all statistics. However there are plenty of pitchers with low K/9 ratios that pitch well in the major leagues.
FB% correlates higher than FIP also. Does that mean that if a pitcher has a higher FB% that he is a better pitcher? Because I can almost guarantee without looking it up that Chris Young's FB% was much greater than Jeremy Hefner's. (Note, I am not advocating FB% shows pitcher skill, I'm just illustrating a point that stats correlating year-to-year more accurately than other stats means nothing in terms of their value in analyzing talent).
Wow. This is ugly.
Was I comparing FIP or xFIP to FB% or K/9? No. Didn't think so. I was comparing it to ERA, which has one of the lowest correlations year-to-year of any pitching metric.
If it was in any way reflective of a pitcher's skill, wouldn't it have some semblance of correlation rather than fluctuating wildly every year? The skills of the athletes stay relatively the same on a yearly basis, so when comparing two stats that are trying to accomplish the same thing, wouldn't you want the one that does the same? If FIP is so arbitrary and made-up, how does it correlate so well every year?
Also I like how you conveniently ignored the fact that xFIP is the greatest indicator of future ERA and that Hefner more than doubled Young's WAR in 30 less innings.
Post by Longtime and Frequent Poster on Feb 22, 2013 20:41:25 GMT -5
I'd rather they give Rogers a shot over Narveson, but I'm not really sure what they'll do. I've paid like 0 attention to baseball since last season, but I'm about to try to figure out all my keepers for this hardcore auction league. Pretty hot Friday night if I do say so myself.
Wanna talk experience? The Mets starting outfield doesn't have one guy who has started a full season before. And they make about as much as Bobby Bonilla this year. Combined.
At least I have my fantasy dynasty team to keep me sane again this summer.
Gotcha. Which still baffles me. Do you think Braves fans realize they ruined Chipper's last game, yet?
Such an embarrassing moment to be a Braves fan. No curtain call.
I mean I just think of it as the Braves get more fans to the park later in the year/playoffs, no? So all of those people aren't necessarily the most "die-hard" fans around and don't quite grasp those intricacies. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. Obviously the Braves do have good fans, I'm not doubting that, there just seemed to be more on the late season bandwagon than decent ones at that game.
I'm not humoring you by answer such a ridiculous question. Any team in baseball would send a better pitcher out on short rest and use their bullpen in that scenario.
Jimmy, use Fangraphs. Hefner had a WAR of 1.2, Young had a WAR of 0.5.
Such an embarrassing moment to be a Braves fan. No curtain call.
I mean I just think of it as the Braves get more fans to the park later in the year/playoffs, no? So all of those people aren't necessarily the most "die-hard" fans around and don't quite grasp those intricacies. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. Obviously the Braves do have good fans, I'm not doubting that, there just seemed to be more on the late season bandwagon than decent ones at that game.
No this is totally accurate. Atlanta isn't a good sports city in general. I don't know what it is, really, but the games are usually relegated to being a tourist attraction during the season and there just isn't a good, strong sports identity in Atlanta. I think it's too much of a hub for people to come from their real hometowns and they don't end up identifying with the city.
I mean I just think of it as the Braves get more fans to the park later in the year/playoffs, no? So all of those people aren't necessarily the most "die-hard" fans around and don't quite grasp those intricacies. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. Obviously the Braves do have good fans, I'm not doubting that, there just seemed to be more on the late season bandwagon than decent ones at that game.
No this is totally accurate. Atlanta isn't a good sports city in general. I don't know what it is, really, but the games are usually relegated to being a tourist attraction during the season and there just isn't a good, strong sports identity in Atlanta. I think it's too much of a hub for people to come from their real hometowns and they don't end up identifying with the city.
This is exactly it and is true of a lot of warm weather cities. Atlanta, Phoenix, pretty much anywhere in Florida. I went to a Brewers game in Arizona in August of the 2007 season. The Diamondbacks were leading their division, the Brewers were only a couple games out of first in theirs, and the announced attendance was like 26,000. On a Saturday night. I'd guess 30-40% of the crowed were Brewers fans, including over half our section in the bleachers.
I think another part of it is that there's just more to do in warm weather cities in general. Winter in San Diego? Oh no it's 60 degrees. Winter in Green Bay? I'm not leaving the house for 2 months. People are always all "Oh man, the Packers have the best fan base in the NFL" and while that certainly may be true, have you ever been to Green Bay? Boring as f*ck. If I lived there I'd probably camp out in -4 degree weather to see Donald Driver give his retirement speech on a weekday morning, too.
Post by awolfthedoor on Feb 24, 2013 20:30:30 GMT -5
I ended up watching six innings of the Mets Nats spring training game on MLB Network yesterday and pretending like it was spring. I'm seriously jonesing, you guys.
I ended up watching six innings of the Mets Nats spring training game on MLB Network yesterday and pretending like it was spring. I'm seriously jonesing, you guys.
Me too dude. Spent like an hour just watching interviews with all of the new Indians signees. Just got my opening day tickets vs. the Yanks today too. Already sold out, first time that's happened in Cleveland for a while. So excited