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For my 4,000 post, I hope you all will indulge me while I tell a little story from my childhood.
When I was at Michigan I was president of a student organization that brought James Earl Jones in as a guest speaker. So as president, my job was to pick up James Earl Jones from the airport, grab lunch with him, and drive him back to Ann Arbor to speak. So I pick up James Earl Jones, which had I been thinking would have been an amazing opportunity to stand in baggage claim with a little sign that said "Mr. Jones," which would have been amazing but was totally unnecessary because he is a very large, intimidating man, and sorta easy to pick out in a crowd.
Anyway, James Earl Jones and I are doing the 30 minute drive back to Ann Arbor in my Ford Focus and ask him if there's any place in particular he'd like to get lunch in Ann Arbor. mind you, James Earl Jones went to Michigan, so I figured he'd want to go to Angelo's or Zingerman's or something, and since the club was paying I was particularly hoping he'd pick someplace expensive. Nay. James Earl Jones wants to eat at Denny's.
So we stop at a random Denny's off the interstate and there I am, sitting across from Darth Vader at a very small table. We're not exactly having scintillating conversation, we're both just kinda looking at the menu. Then, breaking the silence, in his best Field of Dreams voice, James Earl Jones out of nowhere goes "Moons Over My Hammy. HeHeHe."
Just bought this for me and my wife. I mostly bought it for my wife for valentines day, but figured I'd get one for myself as well. Anyone have any experience with them? Or heard anything?
Next week is going to be insane for me. Monday I have Jim James in a tiny venue, Tuesday is the lineup drop, and then Saturday I see Desaparacidos. Can't f*cking wait.
Post by NothingButFlowers on Feb 12, 2013 13:41:52 GMT -5
Has anybody ever done an online photography course? There's a Groupon for a regularly $450 class for $39 and one for a regularly $97 class for $29 today. They both seem like pretty good deals, so I was thinking about getting one of them, but I'm wondering if it would be worth it.
Next week is going to be insane for me. Monday I have Jim James in a tiny venue, Tuesday is the lineup drop, and then Saturday I see Desaparacidos. Can't f*cking wait.
Let me know how the Desparecidos show goes, MC. I'm guessing life-changing shitt.
Bobs Burgers is making it way up my list of TV shows. The fact they are gonna start doing a series of web-shorts featuring some of my favorites? Even better.
The fact they got Stephen Merrit is absolutely amazing.
Everything H. Jon Benjamin has touched has been gold. Home Movies is probably the greatest "adult cartoon" ever. Archer and Bob's Burgers are both probably the funniest animated shows on now, much better than Family Guy and South Park. I never really got into H Jon Benjamin has a van or whatever, but I'm sure it's good as well.
Everything H. Jon Benjamin has touched has been gold. Home Movies is probably the greatest "adult cartoon" ever. Archer and Bob's Burgers are both probably the funniest animated shows on now, much better than Family Guy and South Park. I never really got into H Jon Benjamin has a van or whatever, but I'm sure it's good as well.
Please tell me you've seen Lucy, Daughter of the Devil.
Everything H. Jon Benjamin has touched has been gold. Home Movies is probably the greatest "adult cartoon" ever. Archer and Bob's Burgers are both probably the funniest animated shows on now, much better than Family Guy and South Park. I never really got into H Jon Benjamin has a van or whatever, but I'm sure it's good as well.
Please tell me you've seen Lucy, Daughter of the Devil.
I don't even think I've heard of it. I'll look into it though.
Please tell me you've seen Lucy, Daughter of the Devil.
I don't even think I've heard of it. I'll look into it though.
Oh man, you have to. It's from the same guy who made Home Movies and Bob's Burgers and stars Jon Benjamin, Eugene Mirman, and Jon Glaser (of Delocated fame) and it's hilarious.
Now, don't let the animation scare you away right away. It's a sorta weird computer animation style but that's not what makes the show so great. It's the discussion and conversation between the characters. Also, Jesus Christ is back and he is a DJ.
It's not sympathizing with an insane person. It's the fact that the cops decided the best course of action was to burn the place down. What if they guy had hostages in there? And since when have cops had the authority to be the judge, jury, and executioners? This whole this is just shady and wrong on all sides involved.
EDIT: Dammit top of the page for a probably controversial opinion, we'll see how this goes.
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It's not sympathizing with an insane person. It's the fact that the cops decided the best course of action was to burn the place down. What if they guy had hostages in there? And since when have cops had the authority to be the judge, jury, and executioners? This whole this is just shady and wrong on all sides involved.
EDIT: Dammit top of the page for a probably controversial opinion, we'll see how this goes.
Don't jump to conclusions just yet. We are not fully sure who burned the place down. He may have done it himself. Let's hold off judgement for both sides until we get more information.
It's not sympathizing with an insane person. It's the fact that the cops decided the best course of action was to burn the place down. What if they guy had hostages in there? And since when have cops had the authority to be the judge, jury, and executioners? This whole this is just shady and wrong on all sides involved.
EDIT: Dammit top of the page for a probably controversial opinion, we'll see how this goes.
Don't jump to conclusions just yet. We are not fully sure who burned the place down. He may have done it himself. Let's hold off judgement for both sides until we get more information.
The cops definitely did it. You can hear them on the scanner saying "burn it down." Let's not forget this same thing happened at Waco, just on a larger scale. And just to be clear I'm not taking any side here. I just really don't think police should be able to get away with things like this.
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You can hear them say it around the 1:20 mark.
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A guy killed multiple people for no reason. He killed innocent people for being related[/img] to someone. He was a menace and a murderer. They don't need to be a judge or a jury to take measures to ensure he doesn't kill anyone else. That's their job, they were protecting the public. This is also assuming they actually set the cabin on fire, which hasn't been confirmed by anyone. Some accounts I've read reported that there was a single gunshot from inside the cabin before it going ablaze a moment later. They implied he killed himself and burned the cabin himself.
So why would the cops feel the need to say "burn it down" and later on "burners deployed, building is lit". This has happened before (Waco). After all this is the same police force who shot 2 ladies earlier this week so we know they have no hesitation to act without thinking. The LAPD is probably the sketchiest and most crooked police force in all of America.
And while you may be able to justify it with "the dude was a murderer" that still isn't an excuse for police to take the entire legal process into their own hands. There is much more to this story then we know, that's all I'm saying. It isn't black and white at all.
It's truly frightening that you think certain situations forgo the need for a trial. This is 21st century America. We are supposed to be better than this.
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So why would the cops feel the need to say "burn it down" and later on "burners deployed, building is lit". This has happened before (Waco). After all this is the same police force who shot 2 ladies earlier this week so we know they have no hesitation to act without thinking. The LAPD is probably the sketchiest and most crooked police force in all of America.
And while you may be able to justify it with "the dude was a murderer" that still isn't an excuse for police to take the entire legal process into their own hands. There is much more to this story then we know, that's all I'm saying. It isn't black and white at all.
It's truly frightening that you think certain situations forgo the need for a trial. This is 21st century America. We are supposed to be better than this.
"burners" could be code for a number of things. It's not like they have a burner squad who goes around starting fires. Is it possible the law enforcement officers lit a cabin on fire that was housing a guy shooting at them? Yeah, and I would have no problem if that's what they did. The guy was walled up with ammo and no value attached to the lives of others. Sorry that you feel it was inhumane to kill him like that, but I think it's inhumane to shoot innocent people because you're having a rough time.
Guilty by association isn't fair. Every cop in the LAPD isn't corrupt, every cop isn't crooked or guilty of some crime. And Dorner killed non-cops, that's what I don't get about people that are supporting him. He's killing family members of cops, anyone who defends him in any way is just disgusting in my eyes.
And they didn't take the entire process into their own hands, the guy was shooting a gun at them to kill them. How is lighting the cabin on fire (which was probably being done to flush him out via smoke inhalation) any different than shooting him a dozen times? Would you have been upset if they did that?
This isn't a 'story,' either. It's a tragedy. A guy who was mentally unbalanced killed a bunch of innocent people and justified it because they were related to people associated with the LAPD or people Dorner didn't like himself.
And it's frightening that you think "hey, some dude is popping off rounds at my face" is a time when a guy should be put on trial. No, the guy is shooting at you, you put him down.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Feb 13, 2013 10:57:35 GMT -5
Some people saying that he likely wouldn't let them take him alive. In those kinds of situations (not saying this is definitely one of them, speaking hypothetically here) what exactly do you do? How do you arrest a guy to take him to trial if he's got weapons and is shooting at anyone who gets near with intent to kill? Maybe using non-lethal weapons could be an option but I am not knowledgeable enough in this area to really know what works and what doesn't.