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Post by antegravite on Jan 22, 2008 14:37:23 GMT -5
What is everyone's view on short sets at bonnaroo? I personally think they should focus on a smaller lineup rather than squezzing in so many bands for short sets. It does, on the other hand, give a larger variety of music to see throughout the day. opinions?
Taking a break from my manic day staring at motherfreakin spreadsheets...
I prefer the shorter sets as it leads to increased variety. my only hope is that they try to move some of the stages in order to prevent sound bleeding - although, i dont know how much they can really limit that.
Besides, it might look like a ton or artists, but they are playing on like, 6 stages. so it's not that bad.
if anything, i would like them to provide some kind of entertainment in between sets - maybe comedy?
if anything, i would like them to provide some kind of entertainment in between sets - maybe comedy?
that's an awesome idea, bring some local comics or some good comics up on the main stage and let them do a 15-30 minute bit until the next act is all ready! :-) that would be sweet... no lines for a stupid comedy tent!
Post by BrokenLight on Jan 22, 2008 16:25:06 GMT -5
definitely move the comedians to the what and which stages, would provide for entertainment between sets, make it feel like the time was going by quicker, no dealing with the lines at the comedy tent, a ton of more people would get to see the comedians, i've been 2 years, and have never seen any comedy, and by getting rid of the comedy tent you could expand the jazz tent to maybe twice the size...but all of this would probably mean fewer comedians and less time that they got to do their act...plus i'm sure having their own tent and how much money they are paid have something to do with it...so moving them to the stages would most likely mean they weren't getting paid as much...
No to short sets. Most bands at Coachella only get 45 minutes which is barely enough time to get warmed up - I like the way it is right now thanks. If we want more variety - let's add another day!
That's a valid point sammy - as much as i plan and plot to see x and y band during the day - if its too hot or if im just not in the mood to walk around - i save myself for the after dark stuff.
last year i had an entire afternoon mapped out, but ended up taking a nap.
happens more often than i would like it to, thats for sure...
i've missed primus and tmv latenights because of freakin' exhaustion...not no more...ill rest during the day because the night is when the magic happens
You make comedians do their acts on main stages between band sets and you'll either have to (a) pay them considerably more or (b) seriously downgrade the quality of your comedy bookings.
Most comedians want no part of taking a giant stage where the majority of people aren't interested in seeing them or aren't even paying attention.
You could get something like they did at Sasquatch, where comedians would do a minute or two of jokes and then intro the bands....but 15-20 minute sets would be brutal.
You make comedians do their acts on main stages between band sets and you'll either have to (a) pay them considerably more or (b) seriously downgrade the quality of your comedy bookings.
Most comedians want no part of taking a giant stage where the majority of people aren't interested in seeing them or aren't even paying attention.
You could get something like they did at Sasquatch, where comedians would do a minute or two of jokes and then intro the bands....but 15-20 minute sets would be brutal.
I'm sure they wouldn't be that happy to leave the comfyness of the air conditioned comedy tent.
I think the DJ's is a great idea. I wish they would do that again.
My bigger issue is when an artists fails to fill their assigned time slot. If you are given a three hour set you play your three hours. You don't leave Bonnaroo silent for an hour. (Okay, my issue may just be with the Police. I can't recall any others falling so staggeringly short of time expectations.)
Post by ltravestyl on Jan 22, 2008 22:25:37 GMT -5
I do believe that the first year Dave Matthews was there he had a ridiculously long time slot, like 4 hours, and only played for 2. I was mucho disappointed even though it was a good show. However, I wasn't really disappointed that the police stopped playing, they were a bit boring. Gov't Mule on the other hand played for hours and hours and every last minute of it was friggin awesome!
As for short sets, let the band decide how long they want to play. I don't think they should just say heres 3 hours fill it up, even it's it crap. They know how long they can put on a good show, let them do it.
Post by stallion pt. 2 on Jan 22, 2008 22:27:12 GMT -5
cdevaney said:
My bigger issue is when an artists fails to fill their assigned time slot. If you are given a three hour set you play your three hours. You don't leave Bonnaroo silent for an hour. (Okay, my issue may just be with the Police. I can't recall any others falling so staggeringly short of time expectations.)
Petty went on late and went off early. The Flaming lips were on the schedule for 4 hours in 2003 but only played for 2. The superjam last year wound up early. I'm sure there are others.
As for set lengths, I sort of wish the afternoon tent acts had just a bit more time (+15 mins or so). Festivals with a lot of 45 min sets are the reason I keep coming back to Bonnaroo. That's just not long enough for a good band to play. But set length is not everything. I'd rather see an hour of a entertaining band than 3-4 hours of pointless wanking.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
Some of the longest festival sets I've seen were at Bonnaroo. I think they give adequate time to bands from 4:00 Pm to 4:00 AM. My biggest complaint would be the 1 hour sets from Noon to 3 PM. Generally I think these sets are too short to get anything but a "feel" for what the band is going for, not enough to get fully immersed.
Post by BrokenLight on Jan 23, 2008 18:47:38 GMT -5
i'm pretty sure string cheese went well over their scheduled time last year, maybe it was something else that made me not have a grasp on the actual time
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
I like how things are now. I like the shorter hour to an hour.5 long sets during the day, the long set for the headliner, and the long late night sets.
I tend to have a short attention span at concerts, even for bands I really love, so an hour to 2 hours is good for me, unless someone is putting on a super amazing show. i.e. The Roots last year, I think they played about 2 hours but I could have stayed for 2 more.
And thats why I really like having multiple stages going at once so when I get bored at one show I can just hop on over to whoever is playing somewhere else.
Post by BrokenLight on Jan 24, 2008 2:08:30 GMT -5
i say the headliners play as long as they want, but not after 12 cause thats when the latenight shows start, and the latenights go as long as they physically can, in 05 the headliners started a little bit earlier than this past year, in 05 it felt like panic (saturday's show) played for 4 hours straight with only like a 5 maybe 10 minute break before the encore, i think dave that year was at least 3 hours, i've seen dmb 22 times, and that was the longest show i've ever seen them play, loved their cover of time of the season
Post by antegravite on Jan 24, 2008 14:18:10 GMT -5
I agree with the idea of a larger variety of music. I was mainly concerned with some shows being scheduled for short sets last year, especially during the daytime. Other than headliners, how exactly do you determine who deserves a longer set and who doesn't? I think girl talk's show lasted for 30-45 min last year? Definitley not long enough for his show. Same with old crow medicine show, 35 min set i think it was? Some bands couldn't fit more than 3 songs in a 30 minute set. The way that I look at it, if your watching a band put on an awesome show, why should it end in 30 minutes?
I think the longer sets are just as fun for the artists as it is for the audience. When I was interviewing Bobby Weir... Jack Casady walked in. Bobby started interviewing Jack with our mic. Jack told Bobby that he'd be onstage with Govt Mule until after 3am. Bobby had a big smile on his face when he heard this, and said, "I'll be there too!" Jack then said that Barry and "Jorms" were around the corner, and it became a big love fest back in the tent. They had no idea that they'd be playing with each other that night until they saw each other that afternoon.
I really was in total disbelief when all this unfolded in front of me, but it showed me that these musicians truly love what they do, and were genuinely excited to be jamming out late night at Roo. Unlike Pearl Jam at Lolla, these musicians were NOT going through the motions. That's what makes for such a great chemistry at the Roo late night sets!