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Nic >> Mike D >> Phi RDK >> LLL >> Mike D >> Null >> Phi Phi >> Mike D LLL >> LLL >> Phi >> Mike D CST >> Phi >> Mike D >> Phi Viking >> Phi >> Mike D >> Phi Mike D >> Phi
IF there is no additional vote movement, the round will close between 5 and 6 tonight. If there is still active discussion and potential for vote change it will stay open and we will set a new deadline.
Also, why am I still alive? LLL mentioned I was innocent way long ago. Wouldn't the Mafia want as much ambiguity as possible? Why would they leave a KNOWN townsperson in the game? I've been wondering about it for awhile but didn't want to say anything to inspire any crazy theories about how I am mafia, but I can't help but thinking about it.
Heres why I think:
I think they left me around because LLL was saying I am innocent. They killed SFA because he wasn't connected with her theories very much. He was also insistant that I am innocent. Are they setting me up to look like mafia with LLL and SFA? That's all I can think. I think that Phi thought more people would buy into his "LLL is full of it" crusade and he would be able to get people to turn on me, citing that I'm still alive despite the inspector saying I'm "innocent" as a suspicious activity.
They know who all of the townies are at the beginning of the game CST. They know everyone's roll except for Inspector. They already knew you were a Townie. But if you look, there are people who have tried to pair us up since I said that you are innocent, and it is because if you are going to paint me as Mafia, it is safest to pair me up with the two people I am saying are 100% innocent.
I also said SFA was innocent. I've played many games with EAP, Mike D and SFA. I have a real feel for how they play. SFA was playing innocent. Mike D is playing guilty.
That is why I REALLY REALLY REALLY urge you all to vote off Mike D. It gives us a better chance to flush out the last one. It may very well be Phi, but the 3rd Mafia has to slick and unassuming. Phi was playing like a Townie most of the game, but he started blowing it at the end of last round. Whoever the last Mafia is will have to be slick enough to convince everyone I am Mafia and who my partner is.
I can't decide if they are going to kill me off, or keep me and hope that they can turn everyone on me. I guess we'll see.
I hate using the words "trust me" because it sounds like a sharky used car salesman phrase. But seriously, if you want townies to win, get rid of Mike D. I am CERTAIN he is Mafia. His voting matches up and I know his playing style. Mike D has a Mafia magnet. For real. Go back and look how many times he has been Mafia. It is UNREAL. So I have a lot to go off of when I say he is playing like he does when he is Mafia. I think it was my very first game that I played, SFA was Mafia, Mike D was Mafia. I had them both figured out right away. SFA because I know him personally, so I could tell he wasn't playing like I would expect him to play as an innocent.
We are far better off in the odds dept if we vote off Mike D. Then, if they keep me around, you even have time to vote me off if you think that I am playing you. Because if one of you still believes EAP was Inspector, and she really did have my name and Mike D---then you have at least gotten rid of one of us and you still have time to get rid of the other. Win Win.
I'm aware that all the mafia know who all of the townspeople are, what I'm saying is: Now that the townspeople know (or at least, the townspeople who trust you are inspector) that I am a townie, wouldn't the mafia want me out of the game? Why wouldn't you want to get rid of someone who theres little to no doubt about? Just so theres as much confusion in the air as possible. That's what I would have done if I were mafia, at least.
I'm not so much concerned about EAP at this point. I think that Phi is the only person who still "believes" she was the real inspector, and I have a feeling on him. I mean, you ARE the inspector but you didn't guess Mike D, so we don't know for SURE. I just feel wrong about not voting for Phi. In my opinion there was a good bit of the game where he was trying to infer that HE was the inspector, which also has got me curious. I think he was going to try and pull fake inspector until EAP did it as a last minute act of desperation. Or even if he wasn't going to, he still hinted at it. He started dropping all of these "theories" he had and then kept telling people "to go back the last few pages and figure it out."
i hope you're starting to come around viking and see that I am not mafia. a lot of light has been shed in the last 2 pages. you're smart and I think you'll figure it out.
I'm still not sure. Neither seem as guilty as the other. So convince me. Win my vote.
Go back and re-read the last 3 pages. That should tell you everything you need to know.
I wish I could go through and count the number of times Phi has said he is a townie or not mafia. His whole playing style this game just screams over-compensation. I went back and re-read the pages that he was insisting everyone read, and all I got were a lot of empty accusations from people, including Phi.
You say not voting Mike D is a mistake. I say not voting Phi is. This one is tough... real tough. I want to trust your intuitions on Mike D but I have my own intuitions about Phi, and I would say they're somewhat well-grounded. He's been inconsistent all game.
Also, heres something from last game (when Phi was mafia) that is quite interesting.
TOWNIES!!!! PLEASE stop and think before you automatically believe SFA!!! I know he is 100% full of it and HE knows he is 100% full of it. How? Because I KNOW I am a damn townie!!!!!
Bold freaking move SFA! They will likely believe you!
But what I cant understand is.................WHY? How does this ensure the game for the mafia this early by doing this? Even if you manage to have me and nic (who im just assuming is also a townie since you would give away a fellow mafia memeber) you are still left at a disadvantage of 4-3.
Seem familiar? Calling the real inspector the fake inspector, and his only claim to back it up is that he KNOWS hes a townie.
If you believe me that I am Inspector, trust me there.
If you don't you still win because you got rid of my "partner" Mike D.
Sorry LLL. It is going to make me look Mafia as hell, but I am voting for phi and not Mike D. Unless you can show me a logic train that works better, I am sticking with what I came up with. You have been wrong twice so far, and I think you are wrong here. Note, you being wrong does not make you a bad inspector or make me not believe you. I still think yo uare inspector, and that CSTNZ and RDK are innocent. Otherwise, we are all dead anyways.
WLViking >> Phi >> Mike D >> Phi
Yep, you're right. You just made yourself look more like Mafia than Phi. If you, in your FIRST GAME, do not have the wherewithall to listen to the EXPERIENCED Inspector who has been on the winnig side of EVERY game she has played, and named MVP of more than one of those games, then you are either Mafia, or you have an enormous penis that is clouding your judgement right now.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Mar 22, 2012 13:09:14 GMT -5
CST don't blow this man. I only didn't pick Mike D because I was sure about him, but not about RDK. I wasn't going to blow a guess on someone I am sure about man. I'm not dumb. Mike D as Mafia is a much easier case to make because he is one of the ONLY two who tried to save EAP from the last runoff. DONT BLOW THIS GUYS> YOU ARE GOING TO BLOW IT>
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Mar 22, 2012 13:10:46 GMT -5
CST, RDK, change your votes back please. How could you not listen to the person is 100% sticking up for you? Nic, change your vote. I am casting doubt completely away from you guys. At least reciprocate with your vote.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Sorry LLL. It is going to make me look Mafia as hell, but I am voting for phi and not Mike D. Unless you can show me a logic train that works better, I am sticking with what I came up with. You have been wrong twice so far, and I think you are wrong here. Note, you being wrong does not make you a bad inspector or make me not believe you. I still think yo uare inspector, and that CSTNZ and RDK are innocent. Otherwise, we are all dead anyways.
WLViking >> Phi >> Mike D >> Phi
Yep, you're right. You just made yourself look more like Mafia than Phi. If you, in your FIRST GAME, do not have the wherewithall to listen to the EXPERIENCED Inspector who has been on the winnig side of EVERY game she has played, and named MVP of more than one of those games, then you are either Mafia, or you have an enormous weenie that is clouding your judgement right now.
I'm going to go with enormous weenie, since that is the only guess I know for sure.
To cover my playing style. This is how I've always played. Unfortunately most of the time I dont have time to make those long posts quoting stuff and pointing out evidence, etc. I have ALWAYS played where I openly say who I think is mafia, and move on. Thats why mafia always keep me around, I'm easy to pin later in the game when it counts. Its been that way all 3-4 games ive been a townie, and is no different this time.
I thought I had everthing figured out. Now I'm back to being confused again. I truly believe EAP was our real inspector. I am FLOORED that NO ONE is discussing the fact that LLL came out as the inspector, yet SFA was whacked. The inspectors ALWAYS get whacked. ALWAYS. Did I mention ALWAYS? Mafia can never afford to give them more guesses, even if they thing it will make them look more suspicious by not whacking them. It's way too risky. LLL is NOT your inspector!
I'm actually kind of glad I'm getting voted out. I dont really have time to keep up with everything going on this game. Not to mention there is a chance people's feelings are getting hurt outside of this game and that was never my intention. We all have our different playing styles and personalities, some can keep their emotions inside the game, some take it to heart. I apologize if anyone has been truly offended in this game by me saying they are full of shit, etc. But in the back of my mind I still think im getting played, we'll see at the end.
With the way the votes look I'll be gone in a few hours so audios. I dont see any other way I can make you guys believe I am a townie.
LLL I would like to point out again that I didn't try to save EAP in that runoff, I explained how I felt about Phi sticking up for RDK when Abra was killed off and what I thought it meant.
Nic >> Mike D >> Phi RDK >> LLL >> Mike D >> Null >> Phi >> Mike D Phi >> Mike D LLL >> LLL >> Phi >> Mike D CST >> Phi >> Mike D >> Phi Viking >> Phi >> Mike D >> Phi Mike D >> Phi
To cover my playing style. This is how I've always played. Unfortunately most of the time I dont have time to make those long posts quoting stuff and pointing out evidence, etc. I have ALWAYS played where I openly say who I think is mafia, and move on. Thats why mafia always keep me around, I'm easy to pin later in the game when it counts. Its been that way all 3-4 games ive been a townie, and is no different this time.
I thought I had everthing figured out. Now I'm back to being confused again. I truly believe EAP was our real inspector. I am FLOORED that NO ONE is discussing the fact that LLL came out as the inspector, yet SFA was whacked. The inspectors ALWAYS get whacked. ALWAYS. Did I mention ALWAYS? Mafia can never afford to give them more guesses, even if they thing it will make them look more suspicious by not whacking them. It's way too risky. LLL is NOT your inspector!
I'm actually kind of glad I'm getting voted out. I dont really have time to keep up with everything going on this game. Not to mention there is a chance people's feelings are getting hurt outside of this game and that was never my intention. We all have our different playing styles and personalities, some can keep their emotions inside the game, some take it to heart. I apologize if anyone has been truly offended in this game by me saying they are full of shit, etc. But in the back of my mind I still think im getting played, we'll see at the end.
With the way the votes look I'll be gone in a few hours so audios. I dont see any other way I can make you guys believe I am a townie.
Oh. CST, you're mafia bro.
Phi, for real. Stop. Your it. THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE YOU THINK THAT I AM MAFIA OR TRY TO GAIN MY TRUST THAT IS WHY. I JUST EXPLAINED IT TO YOU.
I AM TRYING TO SAVE YOUR ASS IN THIS ROUND SO WHY? WHY DID I NOT LET YOUR ASS GET VOTED STRAIGHT OFF? WHY DO I WANT MY MAFIA PARTNER VOTED OFF? I COULD HAVE LET YOU GET VOTED OFF INSTEAD. IF I AM NOT INSPECTOR THEN IT HAS TO BE EAP AND SHE SAYS THAT MIKE D IS MAFIA TOO. IF I LIVE, VOTE ME OFF LAST ROUND. GET RID OF MIKE D, I'LL GET A GUESS IN, WE THEN HAVE TWO MORE ROUNDS TO WIN.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Mar 22, 2012 14:36:59 GMT -5
Guys, Viking is working awfully hard to save Mike D. Even SFA insinuated that Mike D was Mafia based on his voting for Phi last round. EAP created a diversion for the third Mafia player to slide through to the end. That is about to happen guys. If you vote off Phi and then Nic you are DEAD. DEAD. DEAD. We have lost.
Mafia is EAP Mike D Viking--Phi
Get rid of these players and we will win. I promise you promise you promise you. I'll show you my boobs at brunch if Mike D turns out to be a Townie. Kissing booth=Boobie booth.
You thought Phi's Smush Tent was going to be good? If I'm wrong about Mike D I'll give you XXX instead of LLL.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Well I just was sold on going to my first brunch. I think you are dead wrong, so I am not going to change my vote, but I am looking forward to seeing boobies
Guys, Viking is working awfully hard to save Mike D. Even SFA insinuated that Mike D was Mafia based on his voting for Phi last round. EAP created a diversion for the third Mafia player to slide through to the end. That is about to happen guys. If you vote off Phi and then Nic you are DEAD. DEAD. DEAD. We have lost.
Mafia is EAP Mike D Viking--Phi
Get rid of these players and we will win. I promise you promise you promise you. I'll show you my boobs at brunch if Mike D turns out to be a Townie. Kissing booth=Boobie booth.
You thought Phi's Smush Tent was going to be good? If I'm wrong about Mike D I'll give you XXX instead of LLL.
And LLL, I am not working hard to save Mike D. Kill him later for all I care. He could still be clever mafia. But as CSTNZ said, I am much more sure of Phi being mafia than Mike D.
LLL I would like to point out again that I didn't try to save EAP in that runoff, I explained how I felt about Phi sticking up for RDK when Abra was killed off and what I thought it meant.
This isn't why. You didn't because if EAP Mafia partner just layed down and let her die like that without even trying to save her, he would be a poopy Mafia partner indeed.
If you guys don't vote off Mike D this round, then you are going to have to vote him off next round, and then hope that you pick correctly viking, because now Viking looks awfully Mafia. Don't let him or Mike D make it out alive or else we are dead
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Of course I'm just being funny. But really, truly listen and go back and read things.
Since last night, I have read the whole thread twice, and each person alive, plus EAP's posts without noise at least one time through. Nic is the only one I have not gone through a second or third time at this point, since he is alive at least until next round. Also, I did it with an open mind as you suggested.
Now I suggest you go do the same. We trusted you with your info, now it is time for you to trust us. We all have the same facts since we believe you are our inspector. But you have no more information that we do at this point, since you have shared. Settle down and look at the whole chain again. (I suggest starting at pg 19 or so if you dont have time for all the pages.) See if things change. If not, we can talk about why you want Mike D.
LLL I would like to point out again that I didn't try to save EAP in that runoff, I explained how I felt about Phi sticking up for RDK when Abra was killed off and what I thought it meant.
This isn't why. You didn't because if EAP Mafia partner just layed down and let her die like that without even trying to save her, he would be a poopy Mafia partner indeed.
If you guys don't vote off Mike D this round, then you are going to have to vote him off next round, and then hope that you pick correctly viking, because now Viking looks awfully Mafia. Don't let him or Mike D make it out alive or else we are dead
LLL, you are wrong. Just a reminder, you guessed wrong on CSTNZ and RDK as well. Don't get so emotionally wrapped up in your choice that you can't step back and look at another pattern. Saying I look like mafia now because I disagree with you? I have been open and forthright with all of my posts, and have explained anything that anyone has asked. I have been wrong and admitted to being wrong when I was shown where I could have been in error. I have done many things that could be considered mafiaish in "experienced" players minds. But as I said from the start, I am playing differently because the townies keep losing because everyone plays the same.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.