Whether it's your first Bonnaroo or you’re a music festival veteran, we welcome you to Inforoo.
Here you'll find info about artists, rumors, camping tips, and the infamous Roo Clues. Have a look around then create an account and join in the fun. See you at Bonnaroo!!
NFC North had Calvin Johnson break the receiving record & Peterson join the 2K club en route to falling short of the rushing record. Neither of them did it for my Packers, but I like to see that regardless.
I can't wait to see this Packers-Vikings rematch on our turf.
Post by Mista Don't Play on Dec 31, 2012 19:00:40 GMT -5
If Peterson didn't prove he is the MVP last night, I don't know what it would take.
That was truly a great game.
Excited for the playoffs. The NFC should be pretty nuts.
Also, was there any real explanation as to why the Packers were not penalized in the same manner as the Lions for attempting to challenge an automatically reviewed play?
If Peterson didn't prove he is the MVP last night, I don't know what it would take.
That was truly a great game.
Excited for the playoffs. The NFC should be pretty nuts.
Also, was there any real explanation as to why the Packers were not penalized in the same manner as the Lions for attempting to challenge an automatically reviewed play?
The refs/booth made the decision to review the play before McCarthy threw the flag, hence still making the play reviewable. It's really an absolutely ridiculous rule.
Post by Dave Maynar on Dec 31, 2012 19:15:59 GMT -5
What keystone said. The commentators explained it but also very explicitly said 1) they expected Lions fans to be pissed and 2) the rule was possibly the dumbest one in the NFL right now, and the league would be out of their minds to not fix it in the offseason.
P.S. Nelson grabbing that flag was a straight badass move. Way to have your head in the game, Jordy.
P.S. Nelson grabbing that flag was a straight badass move. Way to have your head in the game, Jordy.
I hear a lot of people saying this, but to be honest I'm completely dumbfounded as to how McCarthy wouldn't know the rule, especially by Week 17. Any fan who watched the Lions Thanksgiving day game should've known the rule. Before the commercial break during the challenge Rodgers was livid with McCarthy too for throwing the flag but shockingly I don't think Aikman/Buck knew why. I about kicked over my T.V. when I saw him throw it. No excuse for MM to throw it and he's extremely fortunate the (terrible) rule didn't cost them.
Post by Mista Don't Play on Dec 31, 2012 19:20:47 GMT -5
Ok, I had the sound turned down on the tv at the time so I never heard an actual explanation. I still don't really understand how it could be executed any differently.
Turnovers are automatically reviewed, as are touchdowns (Lions game), so a challenge flag at any point should bring about the same penalty. Unless the review was already underway, which would have been announced via the official. Glad it, ultimately, didn't have an effect on the outcome of the game.
I hear a lot of people saying this, but to be honest I'm completely dumbfounded as to how McCarthy wouldn't know the rule, especially by Week 17. Any fan who watched the Lions Thanksgiving day game should've known the rule. Before the commercial break during the challenge Rodgers was livid with McCarthy too for throwing the flag but shockingly I don't think Aikman/Buck knew why. I about kicked over my T.V. when I saw him throw it. No excuse for MM to throw it and he's extremely fortunate the (terrible) rule didn't cost them.
I agree. Anyone with even a passing interest in the NFL probably heard about the rule a ton after that fiasco with the Lions. I was pretty shocked that MM threw it as well because there is no way he didn't know the rule. My guess is just that he threw it out of instinct/anger rather than thinking of it.
It seemed to me that Aikman/Buck thought Rodgers was pissed over the call and not the flag at first.
They are. I'm suprised Da Bears fired Lovie. Who will they find out there that is better?
Reports earlier this season said they would be interested in Bill O'Brien from Penn State. At the moment, though the top name being tossed around is Mike McCoy the OC from Denver. Then there is also the long shot names like Gruden and Cowher.
As far as Lovie, I have been a long time supporter of his. He gets knocked by fans for "not showing any emotion" which I always felt was a bogus criticism. His players like him, and they play very hard for him, especially on Defense. With that said Lovie had to go. As a HC you are accountable for all three phases of the game. He's a defensive guy, but it's his responsibility to get the right OC in place to make it work. He had over four chances to do that, and every single one of his hires has been awful. In 9 years he's never had an offense rank higher than 15th. With the addition of Marshall and Jeffery, and a very solid backfield with Bush and Forte, the fact that they were completely inept at moving the football because Mike Tice is a first-time offensive play caller just screamed that it was time for a change. His season didn't warrant an extension, and with 1 year left to go on his contract there is no decent OC that would want to come here. It had to be done.
As a Packers fan, I am sad to see Lovie let go. He came in, promised his top priority was beating Green Bay, then failed miserably at that stated goal for most of his tenure. I can't not love that.
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem
They're apparently front runners for Chip Kelly (who I personally think isn't going to be a good pro head coach, but Jets fans are basically throwing parades and rallies trying to get the guy as the HC).
Do you just not like the taste of a Steelers fan owning your team? I probably wouldn't like it if a Dolphins fan bought the Jets, I'd have to think.
I hope Kelly goes to the Bills. I want to see CJ in his offense. will they win any more than they have been? no. will they be fun to watch? yes.
Stop drinking in the morning, Sang. Also, if Chip Kelly went to Buffalo I'd laugh and watch the Jets crush his spread offense which won't transition to the NFL at all. Not with Ryan Fitzpatrick being the derpiest derp in the league. (edit: I'm living in a fantasy world where Mark Sanchez isn't in the NFL next season, shut up and let me have my fun in the offseason)
Flanzo, ESPN says the Jets may have a boner for Norv Turner as OC. Have they got your stamp of approval on this?
Eh, I think Norv is a chump, but he has a good track record as an OC. Maybe when the pressure isn't on him and he's not making game decisions other than play calls his peanut brain doesn't get overloaded.
I won't be upset, but I won't be thrilled. I'm more concerned about who they hire as the new GM and if Rex is keeping his job once that person is hired.
I also love the fact that the Jets have the PFWA filing a grievance with the league against the team for a violation that hasn't even occurred yet. I cannot wait until the media's hard-on for the Jets is over, which will start happening when Tebow is cut.
Also, I love this .gif and hope Seattle wins the whole goddamn thing:
They're apparently front runners for Chip Kelly (who I personally think isn't going to be a good pro head coach, but Jets fans are basically throwing parades and rallies trying to get the guy as the HC).
Do you just not like the taste of a Steelers fan owning your team? I probably wouldn't like it if a Dolphins fan bought the Jets, I'd have to think.
Not at all. Haslam puts stronger thoughts of Modell in my head every day. Joe Banner has absolutely zero track record for running the football side of a franchise. It speaks volumes that the only former employee that would come work for him is Mike Lombardi, a HORRIFIC talent evaluator (which is a misnomer because he doesn't watch film), and hasn't had a sniff at a job in 5 years.
Chip Kelly is the last person on my list. There are quite a few drinking the Kool Aid here AGAIN, but he has absolutely ZERO pro experience, would have to run the draft with Lombardi here, and has what, 3? years of Division 1 College experience as a head coach.
My first choice is actually Doug Marrone. I'd like to get Bill O'Brien, but it wouldn't sit right with me for him to leave PSU after talking all those kids into staying.
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem
They're apparently front runners for Chip Kelly (who I personally think isn't going to be a good pro head coach, but Jets fans are basically throwing parades and rallies trying to get the guy as the HC).
Do you just not like the taste of a Steelers fan owning your team? I probably wouldn't like it if a Dolphins fan bought the Jets, I'd have to think.
Not at all. Haslam puts stronger thoughts of Modell in my head every day. Joe Banner has absolutely zero track record for running the football side of a franchise. It speaks volumes that the only former employee that would come work for him is Mike Lombardi, a HORRIFIC talent evaluator (which is a misnomer because he doesn't watch film), and hasn't had a sniff at a job in 5 years.
Chip Kelly is the last person on my list. There are quite a few drinking the Kool Aid here AGAIN, but he has absolutely ZERO pro experience, would have to run the draft with Lombardi here, and has what, 3? years of Division 1 College experience as a head coach.
My first choice is actually Doug Marrone. I'd like to get Bill O'Brien, but it wouldn't sit right with me for him to leave PSU after talking all those kids into staying.
Well, I gotta say I don't really disagree with your take on any of this, but isn't Banner just playing that role until they hire the GM? Or is he going to have final say on all personnel moves?
Post by clevelndmike on Jan 3, 2013 13:32:02 GMT -5
Speaking Candidly... you'd get it if you heard the presser on Monday, it's meant to be personnel by committee, driven by the head coach, a player personnel support team and of course Joe's input as well. My greatest fear seems to be coming to fruition.. Banner morphing into Jerry Jones - the Jimmy Johnson years (He never received enough credit or limelight in Philly) and a hands on owner that thinks he knows football because he can afford a team.
I skipped this earlier, but I could care less that he owned a piece of the stealers, he wasn't a stealer fan until he bought the team. His main experience is as a UT fan and booster, his Daddy played there. He wanted the Titans, but freakin' Bud wouldn't sell the team. Maybe they'll trade franchises like the Rosenblums and Irsays. He claims to have studied hard at the feet of the Rooneys, and want's to build a team based upon the draft and continuity, yet fires a damn good GM, is hiring his new coach BEFORE the GM, and is acquiescing to Banner giving the coach the most power.
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem
Well, the Jets have a head coach in the Bahamas, two coordinators who are about to be fired, but aren't being fired until other teams fill in their coaching vacancies (because apparently Woody Johnson decided he's going to be a huge d*ck this year - no pun intended), a GM search that's moving at a snail's pace and Mark Sanchez's guaranteed money being the single most damaging aspect of their GM search.
Top-10 defense without its best player (and possibly the best player in football)? Would make any job attractive.
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem