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I've read through this whole thing while at the Doctors office and on the way home.
I really hate to see all the hurt feelings that are due to this thread. I'm discussing with the other mods about locking this thread for awhile. We are looking at a really good solution for this whole thing, that will make everyone happy. And it could be coming soon. But we need to Beta test it.
Can you guys all calm the quack down and give us some time to take it out for a test drive?
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jan 9, 2013 16:40:17 GMT -5
Guys...this thread was doing so well for a while. Please let's try to get it back to the civil discussion as opposed to just back and forth bickering. The back and forth helps nobody and distracts from the topic.
Actually I came back to help a friend of my childrens who has had a rough time of it, not just to give out my opinion on this matter, thanks for playing though.
I'll never rag on someone for trying to do some good, but sorry if the fact that you've posted 25 times in this thread and 8 times in that one lead to think it wasn't your primary focus for being here.
Edit: Dammit, SFA
Really? You actually think you know me well enough to know what my motives were? We have never even met dude, and honestly if you think I just came back here to cause trouble put me on ignore, and I can certainly do the same for you.
5/25: Dillinger Escape Plan
5/30: Andrew W.K. w/ Tony Clifton
6/1: Big Boi w/ Killer Mike
6/13-16: BONNAROO
6/29: Bob Dylan, Wilco, MMJ
6/30: The Grandmothers of Invention
7/11: Seinfeld
7/20: Living Colour
8/1: Mastodon w/ Machine Head
8/7: Melvins
9/5: Iron Maiden w/ Megadeth
10/2: The Legendery Pink Dots
11/1-3: VOODOO
11/14-17: BEAR CREEK
Post by Fiddler's Green on Jan 9, 2013 19:22:52 GMT -5
I was going to remain silent in this thread for two reasons. 1/I don't have anything to say that hasn't already been said and 2/I don't think I've been around long enough to have earned a right to comment on what is clearly a very touchy topic and seems to cut to the heart of the community. However, my name was brought into this (thanks for the compliment, Fuzzy) so I thought I should respond.
I lurked here for months to get info before my first Bonnaroo then I sort of forgot about it, came back watched for a long time and started to fall in love with two things: 1/the real sense of community and 2/the music knowledge and discussion I could not find elsewhere.
What does this mean for the topic at hand? Well I understand both sides and will say that if I were invited to a private thread that involved deep music discussion, I would accept and participate. However, I would not reduce my participation in any public threads here. I would just enjoy both. I don't know what that says about me but I'm just being honest.
I really didn't start posting much until this past year. What brought me out of lurk mode was when I realized the depth of musical knowledge that can be found on this board. It would be extremely liberating to discuss music on a deeper level with some of the posters in a private forum.
Regarding the Artist Direct Confirmation thread...Recently, I received an email from a band's agent implying they would be playing at Bonnaroo. They also stated in the email that somebody recently posted their reply on the Coachella board for the "whole world to see" and were clearly annoyed and reluctant to give me the information. I wanted to share the good news with the board about my finding, but was uncomfortable with posting the evidence in public. What I came up with, was to post it for a short period, with hopes that some credible inforooers would see it and vouch for it, and then delete it. Of course somebody quoted me before I deleted (although the poster did delete it, too). It would have been nice to post the evidence in a private forum. And I know hindsight is 20/20, but if it was posted in a private forum, their could have been some discussion about how we need to stop hasseling the agents before we cross the line.
I'm not sure if private forum really would be quite the Utopia many hope it be. Look at the Which Stage. It is comprised mainly of top/regular posters and has minimal trolling, but doesn't really get a lot of traffic. However, I think the option should still be available. Perhaps, it would fair to have a vote amongst posters above a certain post count to decide whether there should be private forums.
I don't really think high post count is the same as wealth. I also don't think it is a good a idea for someone who has only been around a week with 15 posts decide on a new direction for the board.
I don't really think high post count is the same as wealth. I also don't think it is a good a idea for someone who has only been around a week with 15 posts decide on a new direction for the board.
Yeah I was just joking around. Don't believe it's the same either. I don't think it's going to a vote though.
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There are good reasons for both sides of this. I don't really see the relevance of wanting to create private threads to discuss certain artist or shows or whatever when the Which Stage and Other Tent sub-forums exists and are, typically, only frequented by regular posters with minimal trolling. But at the same time I definitely understand how other types of threads (networking, personal healing, etc) deserve to be private.
I don't have a solution, but I trust our mods to come up with something fair that will suffice.
I would like a mental health forum. I would also like a business/networking forum. I would like both to be private.
Why? I should hope that's obvious. Without getting too personal, I (along with many others on this board, I'm sure) have dealt with various minor mental health issues, most commonly anxiety and depression. Hell, this is even very Bonnaroo relevant as I have often developed severe anxiety in massive crowds like the ones at Bonnaroo. I'd absolutely love to be able to talk about those issues openly and freely with like-minded people on this board, as I think we've attracted a really stellar group of core posters, many of whom I'm sure would have terrific things to add to the discussion, be it experiences personal or professional. As it stands now, I think such a thread is a terrible idea, because I'd rather not get into stuff like that for all the world to see.
Similarly, I'd love to have a place to discuss business/networking opportunities. I'd love to talk about where I work, jobs in my area, and network with many people here. I honestly have lost track of the number of PM conversations I've had with other attorneys on here, or with aspiring law students asking advice. It would be great to have a forum for that, but MANY people aren't comfortable at all intertwining their professional lives with their personal, and would prefer that their vcards and LinkedIn info not be posted on a public message board.
Why is this a bad thing? It's "exclusionary" not to create an elitist area of higher-ups, but rather to foster discussion of a different kind, where people can be more open about sensitive topics.
You don't want to get too personal, so let's dismiss Facebook as an alternative private chat. We need the privacy that inforoo affords us. But you would talk business? Wouldn't that require you to disclose personal information anyway? Just take it to Facebook then!
^ but at the end of the day, there is no reason not to have the groups. Im with bacon. I could give two quacks if people want to have a private chat. It happens all the time anyway.
Isn't bonnaroo all about meeting new people and being open with each other? Not shutting people out. I know threads can get cluttered and go of topic. I know some people post idiotic stuff (a lot of the time it is new people) and I am sure I have done it from time to time, but not keeping all threads open to everyone goes against what this all supposed to be about IMO. The only a thread I think could benefit from being private is the Artists Conformation thread bc of the FB incident and people emailing agencies, but the info would still get out.
Not shutting people out. I know threads can get cluttered and go of topic. I know some people post idiotic stuff (a lot of the time it is new people) and I am sure I have done it from time to time, but not keeping all threads open to everyone goes against what this all supposed to be about IMO.
Again, you're presupposing that what YOU think "this all supposed to be about" is, in fact, accurate. Additionally, you're making a mistake which I am noticing is common among everyone who is citing some sort of "community" based reason for arguing against this. And that mistake is not realizing that Inforoo has grown beyond its original purpose. It has rapidly become a catch-all social network for many, many people. There are plenty of people who still post on this board who aren't even attending Bonnaroo. There are people who come here and post solely in the "Other Tent" forum. So why say to those people "oh hey, we're super glad that you've developed close friendships and relationships which extend beyond the nominally narrow focus of this music festival, but if you'd like to have a more personal conversation with those other people you need to take it to Facebook or e-mail?" If people are really serious about this being a "community," then this is an absolutely logical step.
The only a thread I think could benefit from being private is the Artists Conformation thread bc of the FB incident and people emailing agencies, but the info would still get out.
It might not. I've been on boards where there are certain private threads or groups, where information is shared among a more trusted circle of people who have demonstrated that they can act like decent human beings. In general, any information that is asked to be kept private IS kept private, and moreover its protected from wandering, lurking eyes and/or the general public performing a Google search. And look, I have ZERO doubt that the people who got that information would still post WHAT they obtained in the main boards, but it would allow them to protect their sources while still maintaining credibility.
Isn't bonnaroo all about meeting new people and being open with each other?
No. Bonnaroo is "all about" seeing music. People who attempt to ascribe some sort of higher meaning to a for-profit event like Bonnaroo are misguided.
Again, you're presupposing that what YOU think "this all supposed to be about" is, in fact, accurate. Additionally, you're making a mistake which I am noticing is common among everyone who is citing some sort of "community" based reason for arguing against this. And that mistake is not realizing that Inforoo has grown beyond its original purpose. It has rapidly become a catch-all social network for many, many people. There are plenty of people who still post on this board who aren't even attending Bonnaroo. There are people who come here and post solely in the "Other Tent" forum. So why say to those people "oh hey, we're super glad that you've developed close friendships and relationships which extend beyond the nominally narrow focus of this music festival, but if you'd like to have a more personal conversation with those other people you need to take it to Facebook or e-mail?" If people are really serious about this being a "community," then this is an absolutely logical step.
The only a thread I think could benefit from being private is the Artists Conformation thread bc of the FB incident and people emailing agencies, but the info would still get out.
It might not. I've been on boards where there are certain private threads or groups, where information is shared among a more trusted circle of people who have demonstrated that they can act like decent human beings. In general, any information that is asked to be kept private IS kept private, and moreover its protected from wandering, lurking eyes and/or the general public performing a Google search. And look, I have ZERO doubt that the people who got that information would still post WHAT they obtained in the main boards, but it would allow them to protect their sources while still maintaining credibility.
So we are down to sharing information with "trusted" people now? Yeah this is gonna go really well.
