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Kanye: I think it's safe to say that many people's positive vibe was diminished by Ye.
Dave Matthews: Really?
Metallica: See above
Hip-hop/rap/metal/EDM/[genre you dislike]: Too generalized to respond to
Bjork: That's pretty crazy. You'll note she's never been on the farm.
Please point to the part of that link that states ASAP Rocky fired a gun or was involved in the fight, because I sure don't see it.
Kanye - You skipped the bigger portion of my comment (the "pop"). Yes, Kanye killed some chill, but he didn't ruin Bonnaroo.
DMB - Yes, really.
Metallica - I saw what you wrote, that didn't stop people from making similar "ZOMG THE VIBES! THE VIIIIIIIIIIIIBES" comments when they were put on the lineup.
"Hip-hop/rap/metal/EDM/[genre you dislike]: Too generalized to respond to"
No, you can respond to it by saying "yes, my comment about ASAP was just as pointless as the comments made by people about those genre's, both generally and specifically." But you won't, whatever.
Bjork - She's there this year. The guessing game for her is done, consider her confirmed. Should they ban her as well?
Bowfinger is actually probably an incredibly overrated movie in my group of friends because we all love it so much.
I was about to slap you because you called it overrated until I saw the rest of your post.
Bowfinger is one of my favorites of his. I really liked his and Murphy's performances. Great stuff. Everything with Kit (Keep It Together) and the Laker Girls makes me crack up.
Please point to the part of that link that states ASAP Rocky fired a gun or was involved in the fight, because I sure don't see it.
As I said before, it's not that I think he's going to always be the one inciting the violence - although you'll note it doesn't say he didn't fire a gun, either - but that his persona seems to always attract/incite violence in others. The fact is that he has been arrested for assault, pled guilty to larceny, and had gunfire result from one of his shows, all within six months.
Kanye - You skipped the bigger portion of my comment (the "pop"). Yes, Kanye killed some chill, but he didn't ruin Bonnaroo.
I never said anything about ruining Bonnaroo. That is a straw man that you repeatedly build up when the debate at hand isn't leaning in your favor. I specifically said killing the positive vibe, which Kanye did for many, many people.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jan 23, 2013 12:27:11 GMT -5
his persona seems to always attract/incite violence in others.
I've seen fights at Phish shows and there was the water-bottle throwing incident at Gov't Mule/Lewis Black in 2007.
People will be violent if they are violent themselves not because of who is on stage. A$AP being at Bonnaroo does not mean it would be more dangerous or violent than previous years.
As I said before, it's not that I think he's going to always be the one inciting the violence - although you'll note it doesn't say he didn't fire a gun, either - but that his persona seems to always attract/incite violence in others. The fact is that he has been arrested for assault, pled guilty to larceny, and had gunfire result from one of his shows, all within six months.
One instance was him inflicting violence, the other was his group fighting another group. Those aren't both situations where he incited violence in others. The fact is that the assault/grand larceny was a single event even though you keep acting like it was two separate instances, and unless you want to put ASAP in charge of searching people prior to entering the building, not sure what you want him to do about other people shooting guns in a club. Even if they are his friends.
I never said anything about ruining Bonnaroo. That is a straw man that you repeatedly build up when the debate at hand isn't leaning in your favor. I specifically said killing the positive vibe, which Kanye did for many, many people.
I'm sorry that I took your comments about vibes and just converted it to "ruin Bonnaroo," since we've been seeing those arguments going hand-in-hand for years and years on inforoo (well before I was even here).
And your fixating on Kanye while ignoring every other instance I listed pretty much proves your point isn't worth making. give it up.
his persona seems to always attract/incite violence in others.
I've seen fights at Phish shows and there was the water-bottle throwing incident at Gov't Mule/Lewis Black in 2007.
People will be violent if they are violent themselves not because of who is on stage. A$AP being at Bonnaroo does not mean it would be more dangerous or violent than previous years.
Emoney's story about the wook giving birth and her wook husband tipping some guys face open is also a good one for destroying the "vibes" argument.
At the end of the day, that clue is obviously A$AP, whether you want to fit it to Steve Martin for silly reasons or not. Just accept that A$AP Rocky will probably be playing Bonnaroo, and it's pretty likely that no violent acts will occur solely based on his presence there.
4/17 Jim James
5/17 Foals
6/8 Tallest Man On Earth
6/11 Local Natives
6/13-16 Bonnaroo
7/6 Bob Dylan, My Morning Jacket, and Wilco
7/12-14 Forecastle
8/15 STS9 and Umphreys McGee
10/25-27 Mountain Oasis
One instance was him inflicting violence, the other was his group fighting another group. Those aren't both situations where he incited violence in others. The fact is that the assault/grand larceny was a single event even though you keep acting like it was two separate instances, and unless you want to put ASAP in charge of searching people prior to entering the building, not sure what you want him to do about other people shooting guns in a club. Even if they are his friends.
They were shooting guns in the club because his group was there. In plainer words: There was gunfire at a venue because ASAP Rocky and friends had a concert that night, less than two months ago. He showed up; violence ensued. Yeah, sounds like a great contribution of positive vibes.
As for the others:
Kanye: Did add a negative vibe.
DMB: I've never heard anything remotely violent about Dave, as a person, in his music, or at his shows.
Genres: If other people made sweeping statements about entire genres attracting violent people, it wasn't me. There are role models for aggression and violence in every genre. According to Neil Young, Manson was a brilliant folk singer. I wouldn't want Charlie on the farm, but that's not a rebuke against acoustic music.
Bjork: I already said that was crazy, although I do think there's a difference between going after someone who's bothering your kid and going after someone because you don't want photographs of what you're doing in a public store. It's also worth noting that no charges were filed despite it being on video. Attacking someone isn't excusable, but you have to look at someone as a whole person. Two incidents in twenty years - one because she had been stalked for four days and the most recent being five years ago. That's a pretty different story than someone who has had as many incidents as albums.
For one, I think the clues fit him at least as well as they do ASAP Rocky, especially the pesos part. The entire scene about El Guapo is about being paid in full in pesos. AR's song isn't even called Pesos, it's called Peso.
Also, I'd greatly prefer have Steve Martin on the farm - even if it's just to play some banjo - than someone who was arrested for assault seven months ago.
But he has a song with skrillex...
I misread this at first and thought Steve Martin had a song with Skrillex. Now THAT would be something to see. Steve Martin is a comedic genius
They were shooting guns in the club because his group was there. In plainer words: There was gunfire at a venue because ASAP Rocky and friends had a concert that night, less than two months ago. He showed up; violence ensued. Yeah, sounds like a great contribution of positive vibes.
Lil Wayne was arrested with NO NO WORD!!! AND weapons. Luckily, by the grace of God, no one was killed during his LN Which performance.
The Wu-Tang Clan is heavily rumored to be there, and they sport quite the array of run-ins with the law on their rap sheet. Guess we should give AC/Superfly the Inforoo memo that we don't appreciate their godlessness on the Farm.
Genres: If other people made sweeping statements about entire genres attracting violent people, it wasn't me. There are role models for aggression and violence in every genre. According to Neil Young, Manson was a brilliant folk singer. I wouldn't want Charlie on the farm, but that's not a rebuke against acoustic music.
We agree. My point in bringing these up is that what you're doing with ASAP is what these other people did with artists from various genres (I was generalizing what had been multiple different specific complaints). The point is that violence doesn't break out on the farm regardless of who is playing.
Bjork: I already said that was crazy, although I do think there's a difference between going after someone who's bothering your kid and going after someone because you don't want photographs of what you're doing in a public store. It's also worth noting that no charges were filed despite it being on video. Attacking someone isn't excusable, but you have to look at someone as a whole person. Two incidents in twenty years - one because she had been stalked for four days and the most recent being five years ago. That's a pretty different story than someone who has had as many incidents as albums.
The point is you're holding a double standard. You're holding a club incident that you can't even verify Rocky was a part of against him, while excusing Bjork for being loony tunes.
Wow nothing like watching the circle jerks on here close in for the kill, really not the prettiest part of inforoo. Remember though if you do not share their opinion you are just prey.
Hey jess, blow me.
Should I not say anything when someone is posting narrow-minded nonsense?
No but watching the same 10 people dog pile on others gets really old and honestly it is distasteful to watch. Even when I agree with you like I do here you still come off as a gang of bullies.
Should I not say anything when someone is posting narrow-minded nonsense?
No but watching the same 10 people dog pile on others gets really old and honestly it is distasteful to watch. Even when I agree with you like I do here you still come off as a gang of bullies.
What same 10 people dog pile?
Since your goldfish memory is lacking again, here's the recap:
Godzilla makes his homer thread about Steve Martin being the answer to a Roo Clue that everyone pretty much unanimously agreed was ASAP (it had to have been close to the quickest a Roo Clue was ever solved), people came in to post "LOL what are you talking about" stuff. Then he said ASAP doesn't deserve to perform because he was arrested for assault.
So, in other words: goofy posting about an act you like? You get your balls broken. Irrational posting about how one single act at Roo is going to spark riots or something? Going to be called out by people as being off-base.
I find it interesting you admit to agreeing but still find it necessary to argue with me.
Should I not say anything when someone is posting narrow-minded nonsense?
No but watching the same 10 people dog pile on others gets really old and honestly it is distasteful to watch. Even when I agree with you like I do here you still come off as a gang of bullies.
Godzilla had/has an opinion, some people do not agree. They seem to be having a pretty healthy back on forth on the topic...even if it has gotten a little off the thread topic. Why come in assert bullying? Or say things that could start a minor shizstorm, when the parties involved are not even fighting?
Yet it is in this loneliness that the deepest activities begin. It is here that you discover act without motion, labor that is profound repose, vision in obscurity, and, beyond all desire, a fulfillment whose limits extend to infinity.
~ Thomas Merton ~
" comments when they were put on the lineup. 
