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If he continues this nonsense I'm going to sell my ticket.
...and cue the excuses.
I'm curious to see what the Kanye stans come up with this time. I saw some people on Reddit saying, "I love to experience Kanye rants, it's apart of the show." As someone who has seen him three times, this just seems by far the most excessive rant yet. 40 minutes, constantly cutting out songs, saying things to the effect of "black people should get over racism." I've always been a subscriber to the theory that all the Kanye rants and meltdowns are engineered marketing gimmicks, and this clearly seems to be of that same ilk. However, compromising your concert to preach and ramble to a crowd of people who are booing you should hopefully be a wake-up call for him.
Fuck I don't want to change my profile picture. Can Chance, Pusha T, Kendrick....or maybe even Jay Z have an intervention with this man? Like damn dude sounds like you need to refund and do a make up show for this too.
He's probably having a hard time right now. Like everything from the robbery to his feud with Jay Z, and a million other things we don't know about. I doubt he's in the best mental state, which is pretty obvious with how much he ranted. He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about right now.
Post by TRANTER INDUSTRIES on Nov 18, 2016 13:39:16 GMT -5
Kanye's wrong about this. I don't care much. If this year taught me anything it's to not count political opinions into how much you should like a person. I still love him just the same.
Kanye's wrong about this. I don't care much. If this year taught me anything it's to not count political opinions into how much you should like a person. I still love him just the same.
Kanye, 3 of my 4 parents-in-law, and my mechanic I've been going to for 2 decades. I definitely don't agree with their political leanings, but I'm not going to cut them out of my life because of it.
For some of you, Kanye could literally drag your mother up on stage and stab her in the face, and you'd be like "well, we don't know what Kanye was going through dude is kinda crazy and not that smart and man, mom kinda had it coming I LOVE YOU YEEZUS WOOOOOOOO!"
Kanye's wrong about this. I don't care much. If this year taught me anything it's to not count political opinions into how much you should like a person. I still love him just the same.
Word. I feel the same way about the Nuge.
Don't you like Guns N Roses? You at least saw them at Coachella and seemed pretty excited about it. Aren't they the same band that made that incredibly racist song?
Kanye's wrong about this. I don't care much. If this year taught me anything it's to not count political opinions into how much you should like a person. I still love him just the same.
Word. I feel the same way about the Nuge.
Ted Nugent's shittiness is just all around. Kanye said "if he voted, he would've voted for Trump". He didn't vote for him, he didn't endorse him. I don't get why you're coming into a Ye thread just to shit talk him if you haven't posted here before (recently at least).
Ted Nugent's shittiness is just all around. Kanye said "if he voted, he would've voted for Trump". He didn't vote for him, he didn't endorse him. I don't get why you're coming into a Ye thread just to shit talk him if you haven't posted here before (recently at least).
I don't think it's out of bounds for me to express my dissatisfaction about this kind of shit.
but you aren't. You came in here to be a dick. I'm not happy about. No one here agrees with him. But you are just being a dick.
but you aren't. You came in here to be a dick. I'm not happy about. No one here agrees with him. But you are just being a dick.
But I am. I then expressed my disappointment at how many people were just gonna gloss it over as "just Kanye being Kanye" because they cape for the guy. I fail to see how any of this is irrelevant in any respects to a discussion at large of the artist who is the subject of this thread. Unless you'd prefer that all discussion of any particular artist be kept strictly to their music, and even then kept only to expressions of pure adulation or excitement for every little thing they put out. One of those "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" type scenarios?
I mean, Trump's pandering to the racist/sexist/xenophobic underbelly of America was just a marketing gimmick, but it doesn't make what he did any less abhorrent.
Pusha T out here hopping on songs like "Black America Forever" while Kanye is pulling this shit.
It expresses your opinion on a Kanye related topic in a Kanye thread.
He's probably having a hard time right now. Like everything from the robbery to his feud with Jay Z, and a million other things we don't know about. I doubt he's in the best mental state, which is pretty obvious with how much he ranted. He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about right now.
This is a good one! Very original, nice effort.
Sure, you're continuing the conversation and disagreeing with him, but you do it in a totally dickish way. And it's not even in a clever way in which he can laugh at. It's in a snobby way.
I can get behind the really not liking it, because we saw what crazy shit Azalea Banks did. But don't act like your opinion is superior.
...which opinion of mine are you referencing? The fact that I think calling out fucked up behavior as being fucked up is better than coming up with tortured assumptions in order to try and excuse it?
The fact that you phrase it like that proves my point.
The fact that you phrase it like that proves my point.
I'm being serious. My entire query was to what lengths Kanye fans would go to excuse it. A pretty speculative idea about Kanye's mental state (robbery, fight with Jay-Z, etc.) being the cause of it was put forward, which was pretty much the exact thing I was bemoaning.
A fine point, but the way you continue to phrase it has such an elitist tone to it and doesn't actually make that point.
BrooklynVegan just pointed out that according to FEC records Kanye donated the maximum allowable contributions to both the Clinton campaign and the DNC... So yeah he is just trolling.
BrooklynVegan just pointed out that according to FEC records Kanye donated the maximum allowable contributions to both the Clinton campaign and the DNC... So yeah he is just trolling.
So did the Donald back in the day...so hes just trollin' right?
The fact that you phrase it like that proves my point.
I'm being serious. My entire query was to what lengths Kanye fans would go to excuse it. A pretty speculative idea about Kanye's mental state (robbery, fight with Jay-Z, etc.) being the cause of it was put forward, which was pretty much the exact thing I was bemoaning.
I don't want to excuse his statements. I want everyone to call him out on it, especially his peers. I want him to realize he's wrong. I also think he might not be in a good mental state, which would give some explanation to the show being such a disaster. From what I've read, even die hard fans said the show wasn't good at all. Like it's obvious he's having problems and also isn't in touch with reality.
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Don't you like Guns N Roses? You at least saw them at Coachella and seemed pretty excited about it. Aren't they the same band that made that incredibly racist song?
You mean that thing they did more than 25 years ago, and then apologized for? Yeah, they are. I'm also not so silly that I'm going to hold something someone did that far ago against them (especially when they've admitted remorse about it in the years that passed), though I 100% understand the backlash they received at the time and think it was more than warranted.
I told you. But if I would have voted, I would have voted on Trump. Now there’s people that I love that did vote, that voted for Hillary and I don’t love them no less because they have they opinion. Friends that I have that voted on Hillary. My manager, Scooter Braun, voted on Hillary, one of my management team. My other manager, Izzy, I’m gonna assume voted on Hillary. Everybody said that if you voted on Trump you have to go back to like Montauk or shit. And guess what? That entire team still put together this show tonight with people with differences of opinion, still put this show together tonight and still came together and made this show for y’all. They told me, “Ye, do not say that out loud. Whatever you do, do not say that out loud.” And I just said it! I wanted to say that before the election and they told me, “Do not say that out loud. Whatever you do, do not say that.” That don’t mean that I don’t think that Black Lives Matter. That don’t mean I don’t think that I’m a believer in women’s rights. That don’t mean I don’t believe in gay marriage. That don’t mean that I don’t believe in these things because that was the guy I would have voted for. Run the next song. Believe that there are people here enjoying, or before I start talking at least, enjoying a Kanye West show. By a show of screams do you believe that there are people at a Kanye West show who voted for Trump? [audience screams] Oh, it sound differently from before, huh? It sounds different. Why did we boo the first time on something that wasn’t, “Hey, do you like Trump?” That wasn’t what I asked. I asked you to give me your facts because the internet was giving you their facts based on what you wanted to hear and a lot of you guys got blindsided. How that make you think, though? The fact that undeniable question? That in most music situations you have the Democrats always since the beginning of time. The Democrats were considered to be more liberal. The Democrats were supposed to be more futuristic in their approach. The Democrats were supposed to have more empathy and be more about the people and that relates directly to music and it also relates to celebrity and the idea of what music does for you. Democrat is like music to your ears or something. Bye. Your voices. Do you believe–what percentage of people here–and by the way, I’m not setting y’all up, I’m not setting y’all up I’ve got no time for bullshit–what I’m saying is, what percentage of people here do you think voted for Trump? Do you think it was two people here? Do you think maybe it was 100 people? Do you think maybe it was 1,000 people out of the 15,000 people here? No, I’m asking you, what do you really believe? One person. Two people. What do you really believe? What do you really believe? What do you really believe? What do you really believe? What do you really believe? What do you really believe? I haven’t talked about anybody’s stances on anything. I haven’t talked about any quote that anybody gave from either side. That’s not what I’m talking ’bout. That’s not what I’m asking you. What I’m asking you is what you really believe. I put something that I would bet on. I bet that it might be 20 percent or maybe even 30 percent of this very audience right here that might have voted for Trump. I bet you 15 percent, 50 percent of them, would never say that at a Kanye West show because of the climate right now. And they don’t know they might think I’m like, “Oh, they voted for Trump... y’all should go ahead and….” It’s the opposite of that. People got the right to vote for whoever they want to vote for. That’s the right to vote! That is our right! I did not vote. Aww, no. The Saint Pablo ticket sales are going down now. Aww no, t-shirts. “Aww nah, you just got out of jail Ye. You had to deal with the Taylor Swift shit for seven years now you gonna go say some... naw, yeah don’t say shit. Just step out.” Fuck that, bro. That’s the reality. Well, Ye, how you gonna expect people to vote for you if you ain’t even vote? I’m concerned not about the idea of being president or the actual job of it. I’m concerned about putting our concept of how to do the job in a new way. And if no one will do it in that way I will take position in 2020 and do it myself. “Aw you ain’t gonna get it now because of what you just said.” It was proof that it didn’t matter what nobody just said! It doesn’t matter! It might have been a reporter who wanted to use this as an opportunity to say, “Oh, this rapper” because when they call me a rapper they try to say that I’m less than thinking, less than a philosopher. But rappers are the philosophers of our now. The rappers all form a sense of our now. The celebrities are the influencers of our now. Just look at the president. He wasn’t even in politics and he won! That shows you not if you mad about him winning, but that shows you the level of possibility that is out there if you go and find information and don’t believe everything the fucking internet is telling you! There is possibilities! There’s possibilities inside of books. There’s possibilities when you call grandmother. Motherfuckers be on the internet way more than they calling they mother or they grandmother. To get information that would have you wrong as fuck like everybody knows a couple days ago! Do you ever want to be blindsided like that? Don’t trivialize what I was saying when I talked about our president’s approach to the campaign when I said it was entertaining. I don’t think his approach was just entertaining, because that trivializes it, I actually think that his approach was absolutely genius because it fucking worked! Next song. Oh shit, you threw something at me. Does something else wanna throw something at me? But, you know what, I got the power to get that guy kicked out, or whatever, roughed up. No. Stay here. What do you believe? That’s your opinion. Express your opinion, bro. Express your opinion. Thank you. That’s a woman right there saying, “I love you,” after I just said that there was things that I liked about Trump’s campaign. That’s not supposed to happen, right? No! That’s not supposed to happen, right? Case in point. Aw, no. Well, no. I guess we’re not gonna sell out the rest of the tour now. There’s methods, nonpolitical methods to speaking that I like that I feel were very futuristic and that style and that method of communication has proven that it can be a politically correct way of communication. And I fuck with that. You threw something at me! Naw, he wanted me to sign his Yeezy. I don’t say 2020 out of disrespect to our president at all. I’m not saying that, “Aw man, that just mean that anybody can win.” That’s not what I’m saying when I say 2020. I’ll just say I got some ideas about the way that we should connect our ideas. And we should use opposite parties that the Republicans, that the Democrats, that everyone that ran that had an idea that people agreed with should be the collective ideas that are used to run the country. And that should mean more. So it stinks that Benjamin Carson... that I believe in that Benjamin Carson should still be a consultant. I think that Hillary Clinton should still be a consultant. I think that Bill Clinton should still be a consultant. Obama said... I think Obama should still be a consultant. It’s that, “Oh, I don’t fuck with your principles so now I’m not gonna give you no information that could help you help all of us.” Make sure this dude that got the Yeezy get his Yeezy back, specifically. Hey, security, get it back. Man, and you know what also? I’m not saying this to diss celebrity and that all who are particularly on the Democratic side, that’s cool, I just like... I hate the fact that because I’m a celebrity everybody told me not to say that I loved the debates. I loved his approach. It’d be like white people that’s racist running around saying “niggas” now. If people are racist and they feel more inspired to say how they feel then they exposing themselves, bro. This is what I’m saying. It’s already the beginning of change. Sometimes things that you might think are bad have to happen in order for change to fucking happen. Sometimes you might have to not get your way to really understand what to do in the future to be able to get your way.