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Andy Warhol's Exploding Plastic Inevitable, featuring the Velvet Underground with Nico
I imagine this may garner criticism, but the EPI was a collaboration between Warhol, the VU, and Nico, before the VU and Nico even released an album. It was a singular art piece/intermedia installation that toured across the country. Really neat, especially for the times.
A basic setlist.fm search lists EPI as a tour under The Velvet Underground (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/the-velvet-underground-3bd6a894.html?tour=4bd6c3d6). This pick is basically an installation where a live act is one that I drafted in the first round (and Nico was also picked recently by another person). It's the same band, with the same songs, and the fact that it is part of a performance art should not mean that it is available, in my opinion.
I also want to add that my issue is with the fact that The VU being featured in this. I, of course, do not have any issues with Andy Warhol's any other performance acts as long as they don't involve the VU.
GD: The American poet and cultural critic Wayne Koestenbaum has argued that, even when Warhol was collaborating with others, the artist’s name would dominate the end product: as he puts it, ‘To work for Warhol was to lose one’s name.’ Were audiences coming to the EPI because of Warhol’s name, or to see a concert by the Velvet Underground?
GN: A good way of thinking about the EPI is as a collaborative project. These events were very much in the spirit of 1960s art practice, especially in terms of the intermingling of different artistic forms and communities in New York.
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"It is no accident," noted McGuire, that the Velvet Underground was an organic element in Andy Warhol's Exploding Plastic Inevitable. The now defunct Inevitable remains as the strongest and most developed example of intermedia art.
In the first phase of his collaboration with the Velvet Underground (one of whose members, John Cale, had worked extensively with Young),29 Warhol would exacerbate the dialectic put into play within his Lincoln Center installation, increasing the aggressive negation of popular spectacle even as his promotion of a rock group tied him to it all the more completely. Initially entitled Andy Warhol's Up-Tight, the performance made its now infamous debut at a dinner for the New York Society for Clinical Psychiatry held at Delmonico's Hotel on January 13, 1966. In that incarnation, in which Warhol screened several of his films before appearing on stage with the Velvet Underground, Nico, Edie Sedgwick, and Malanga, the incessant, multimedia barrage of the Exploding Plastic Inevitable had not yet been fully implemented.
The EPI was a collaboration between Andy Warhol and the VU, and Warhol appeared on stage with the VU - he didn't just organize it all in the background.
The Exploding Plastic Inevitable would not have been AT ALL what it was without the contributions of both Warhol and the VU, and both the poster in the OP and the one below indicate that when you come to see the EPI, you are seeing the collaboration of these artists.
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Remember when this draft was supposed to be simple and not have polls?
It was never supposed to be simple and not have polls. I demand a poll on the intended simplicity and pollessness or lack thereof of the Infinity Draft.
Once again, the issue here is not if it's an act or not. I think the question should be if he can pick an act that involves one of the acts I picked.
The VU in EPI is not different than The VU.
If this is your issue, then how is it different than Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg/Dr. Dre, or the multiple Jay-Z acts and Jay-Z? In both instances, they are performing their own music as part of a larger act.
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Once again, the issue here is not if it's an act or not. I think the question should be if he can pick an act that involves one of the acts I picked.
The VU in EPI is not different than The VU.
If this is your issue, then how is it different than Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg/Dr. Dre, or the multiple Jay-Z acts and Jay-Z? In both instances, they are performing their own music as part of a larger act.
In those examples, both of those acts are musical acts though. I think it’s different here. It’s more similar to Arca & Jesse Kanda example that was discussed earlier today.
Remember when this draft was supposed to be simple and not have polls?
You think that’s a trip? Go back in the arcade and read any mafia game before about #30 or so. It’s all so short and civil. Remember when kdogg was the only person posting tin foil hat conspiracies? Simpler times.
If this is your issue, then how is it different than Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg/Dr. Dre, or the multiple Jay-Z acts and Jay-Z? In both instances, they are performing their own music as part of a larger act.
In those examples, both of those acts are musical acts though. I think it’s different here. It’s more similar to Arca & Jesse Kanda example that was discussed earlier today.
Fair point, though I think Arca x Jesse Kanda is a separate act too. Visual artists need their due.
And just in case anyone is mistaken, this is much, much more than a VU set with Warhol doing visuals. If anything the VU is closer to Jesse Kanda in that analogy. They're supplementing Andy's vision. EPI is a collaborative entity unto itself in a way that I think is significantly unique.
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Remember when this draft was supposed to be simple and not have polls?
You think that’s a trip? Go back in the arcade and read any mafia game before about #30 or so. It’s all so short and civil. Remember when kdogg was the only person posting tin foil hat conspiracies? Simpler times.
In those examples, both of those acts are musical acts though. I think it’s different here. It’s more similar to Arca & Jesse Kanda example that was discussed earlier today.
Fair point, though I think Arca x Jesse Kanda is a separate act too. Visual artists need their due.
Yes, but I don’t think we should just change the rules we all agreed on before.
