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Arcade Fire is a huge indicator imo. They were slipped in as a surprise because they couldn't hack it as a Coachella headliner anymore. They were the kings of a scene that's just no longer that important.
Or they were doing surprise shows already and were asked to play Coachella as a surprise.
Possibly. I just can’t picture them headlining a modern Coachella at all.
Is BICEP big enough of a draw for Outdoor? I’d love that or Mojave at night, assuming they ramp up the production in there with some of the old Sahara stuff.
Or they were doing surprise shows already and were asked to play Coachella as a surprise.
Possibly. I just can’t picture them headlining a modern Coachella at all.
A modern Coachella where a headliner announced an arena tour before the fest and ended up selling maybe 25% of tickets? Seems like it doesn’t matter to me.
2013 Blur/Stone Roses had a dismal crowd, but it was still a treat for anyone wanting to see those shows. 2014 Calvin Harris’ crowd blew AF’s away, but AF still brought the heat and ended up being the best show of the weekend.
Post by braundiggity on May 3, 2022 10:41:07 GMT -5
I can envision AF headlining again, particularly with a good album. There’s just a brand association there for Coachella at this point. But they’d need knockout headliners for the other two, and after the surprise show this year I don’t see it happening again for awhile.
The one way they could ensure a future headlining spot would be to break up for 5-6 years and make Coachella their return lol
Possibly. I just can’t picture them headlining a modern Coachella at all.
A modern Coachella where a headliner announced an arena tour before the fest and ended up selling maybe 25% of tickets? Seems like it doesn’t matter to me.
2013 Blur/Stone Roses had a dismal crowd, but it was still a treat for anyone wanting to see those shows. 2014 Calvin Harris’ crowd blew AF’s away, but AF still brought the heat and ended up being the best show of the weekend.
Same as it ever was…
Eh, arcade being the best show of the weekend is obviously debatable. In my opinion goldenvoice changed the game by prominently placing pop and edm acts as opposed to having to book an Arcade Fire or a Muse or whatever. If anything the smart play would be to capitalize on 90’s acts right now if they were looking for rock headliners. Didn’t Arcade’s last tour move slow? The surprise set to me just made more sense at this point in their career. They got a Coach set in without having to book themselves into a possible demotion. As far as SHM goes, I’m not a fan at all but I think they were a more interesting choice than AF in 2022, slow stadium sales or not.
Also, not sure if they were busy both weekends or what, but if Coachella wanted them as a headliner then it would make sense to have them fill in this year instead of creating a one-off set for a hotter act.
Sure my opinion of 2014 is subjective - Arcade Fire was #1 that weekend for me and I wasn’t expecting that.
Ah, missed the part you were talking about 2014. They ruled that year for sure. This time around there was just a weird disconnect for me, personally. It will be interesting to see if they comeback or if we get more of these kinds of surprise sets in the future.
Not sure why or when this happened, but feels like younger generations have latched on more to the My Chemical Romance, System of a Down, etc type rock acts more than the big indie bands of the 2010s, and clearly millennial nostalgia factor for these bands is at a peak as well. Maybe its because so many rappers, Billie Eilish, etc are clearly drawing from that era in terms of influences for their work. I remember watching The Chainsmokers on the Coachella 2016 livestream and was amazed by how wild the tent went for Chop Suey.
Coachella pivoted hard in 2019 to acts from Latin America and Asia before the other fests realized that would be a rising trend. I would not be surprised to see them also try to hit the rising afrobeats and emo nostalgia trends next year. WizKid/Tems/Burna Boy mixed with acts like Paramore or Thursday. If they are going to return to booking big reunions this may be the genre to focus on - wasn't there talk about The Mars Volta thinking about reuniting in like 2019/2020?
Yeah, TMV was supposed to have been doing something and then poof, gone. Coachella was gonna get ahead of the Emo revival with the MCR booking and now they gotta do it differently. Emo Nite went off well and people enjoyed it so theres very much room to book that way. And its not like GV would shy away from their punk roots anyway. They had a hand in starting Warped Tour.
Not sure why or when this happened, but feels like younger generations have latched on more to the My Chemical Romance, System of a Down, etc type rock acts more than the big indie bands of the 2010s, and clearly millennial nostalgia factor for these bands is at a peak as well. Maybe its because so many rappers, Billie Eilish, etc are clearly drawing from that era in terms of influences for their work. I remember watching The Chainsmokers on the Coachella 2016 livestream and was amazed by how wild the tent went for Chop Suey.
Coachella pivoted hard in 2019 to acts from Latin America and Asia before the other fests realized that would be a rising trend. I would not be surprised to see them also try to hit the rising afrobeats and emo nostalgia trends next year. WizKid/Tems/Burna Boy mixed with acts like Paramore or Thursday. If they are going to return to booking big reunions this may be the genre to focus on - wasn't there talk about The Mars Volta thinking about reuniting in like 2019/2020?
I've experienced this first hand, especially with SOAD (which I never would have predicted back in the 00's).
It also helps too that portions of Gen Z are being raised by 90's kids. Many of them didn't grow up seeing these bands, but they grew up listening to them with parents or older siblings, so there will probably be a move to see them in the same fashion our generations finally caught Metallica, a member of Pink Floyd or The Beatles, etc.
Funny to think about an indie rock revival in 10 years. It’s a lot easier to package the 20 bands who were on the radio in the 90’s versus the 1,000 indie rock bands on Millennial parents Spotify.
Not sure why or when this happened, but feels like younger generations have latched on more to the My Chemical Romance, System of a Down, etc type rock acts more than the big indie bands of the 2010s, and clearly millennial nostalgia factor for these bands is at a peak as well. Maybe its because so many rappers, Billie Eilish, etc are clearly drawing from that era in terms of influences for their work. I remember watching The Chainsmokers on the Coachella 2016 livestream and was amazed by how wild the tent went for Chop Suey.
Coachella pivoted hard in 2019 to acts from Latin America and Asia before the other fests realized that would be a rising trend. I would not be surprised to see them also try to hit the rising afrobeats and emo nostalgia trends next year. WizKid/Tems/Burna Boy mixed with acts like Paramore or Thursday. If they are going to return to booking big reunions this may be the genre to focus on - wasn't there talk about The Mars Volta thinking about reuniting in like 2019/2020?
My Chemical Romance and System of a Down also didn't have as much of a chance to wear out their welcome by continually pumping out mediocre music like many of the big radio indie bands of the 2010s did.
Paramore definitely feels like a matter of when and not if for Coachella.
Not sure why or when this happened, but feels like younger generations have latched on more to the My Chemical Romance, System of a Down, etc type rock acts more than the big indie bands of the 2010s, and clearly millennial nostalgia factor for these bands is at a peak as well.
Why is this surprising? I'm a 94 baby for reference, we grew up on SOAD, MCR, Paramore, A7X, Slipknot, Panic! etc. Regardless of how "good" some people think these bands actually are, there's absolutely an emotional attachment to them for most of us. While the 2010s era bands came as we were between ages 16-early 20s already so the nostalgia isn't that strong for them in comparison. We didn't have our own disposable income during the prime of these bands, and most of us didn't get to go to their shows at the time. Now that we have the means to see them, we'll absolutely revert back to the feeling we had when we first started listening to them and have a blast. I started listening to Paramore at age 10 and didn't get to see them live until self titled era when I was 19, I barely got to see SOAD for the first time back in February this year. Give it another 5ish+ years for Gen Z to get a bit older, the 2010s bands would be their nostalgia era and their demand should spike again.
I’ve been praising SOAD in these Coachella threads for a while. Those Feb. LA shows were breathless and a rare opportunity to see them play. Would be a huge hit for a SoCal festival to have them perform.
Not sure why or when this happened, but feels like younger generations have latched on more to the My Chemical Romance, System of a Down, etc type rock acts more than the big indie bands of the 2010s, and clearly millennial nostalgia factor for these bands is at a peak as well.
Why is this surprising? I'm a 94 baby for reference, we grew up on SOAD, MCR, Paramore, A7X, Slipknot, Panic! etc. Regardless of how "good" some people think these bands actually are, there's absolutely an emotional attachment to them for most of us. While the 2010s era bands came as we were between ages 16-early 20s already so the nostalgia isn't that strong for them in comparison. We didn't have our own disposable income during the prime of these bands, and most of us didn't get to go to their shows at the time. Now that we have the means to see them, we'll absolutely revert back to the feeling we had when we first started listening to them and have a blast. I started listening to Paramore at age 10 and didn't get to see them live until self titled era when I was 19, I barely got to see SOAD for the first time back in February this year. Give it another 5ish+ years for Gen Z to get a bit older, the 2010s bands would be their nostalgia era and their demand should spike again.
Having seen them right before their prime is why it’s surprising for me. They were fun and grew to be a bigger deal but I somehow left their show in 2000 thinking Powerman 5000 was the best thing I saw that day. I never tried to catch them again for whatever reason. Love for “nu-metal” bands always catches me off guard because I lived through the phase when much of it became uncool for whatever reason.
Not sure why or when this happened, but feels like younger generations have latched on more to the My Chemical Romance, System of a Down, etc type rock acts more than the big indie bands of the 2010s, and clearly millennial nostalgia factor for these bands is at a peak as well. Maybe its because so many rappers, Billie Eilish, etc are clearly drawing from that era in terms of influences for their work. I remember watching The Chainsmokers on the Coachella 2016 livestream and was amazed by how wild the tent went for Chop Suey.
Coachella pivoted hard in 2019 to acts from Latin America and Asia before the other fests realized that would be a rising trend. I would not be surprised to see them also try to hit the rising afrobeats and emo nostalgia trends next year. WizKid/Tems/Burna Boy mixed with acts like Paramore or Thursday. If they are going to return to booking big reunions this may be the genre to focus on - wasn't there talk about The Mars Volta thinking about reuniting in like 2019/2020?
I'm 27 and I can say this is pretty much the case for me. I liked SOAD and MCR type acts as a kid/younger teenager. When I got to my junior/senior year of high school I was like okay what's the "cool not cringey music to like". So that's when I started listening to like Arcade Fire and Animal Collective. But as I've gotten older I just realized that I still love MCR and all of those bands. Plus there's a lot of great emo/punk bands that have been putting out music in the last few years. If I went to Coachella this year I would have spent a lot of time at the Sonora stage.
Wow if Posty joins the peppas the set will be good. Maybe since JOhn FRusciante is back I haven't seen them with john frusicante so i'm looking forward to it.
I’ve been praising SOAD in these Coachella threads for a while. Those Feb. LA shows were breathless and a rare opportunity to see them play. Would be a huge hit for a SoCal festival to have them perform.
Right before SOAD came on stage at Banc, somebody mentioned When We Were Young fest the row behind me and I turned around and said I was going too. Within about a minute we saw that of the ~12 people closest to me at that concert, 8 were going to WWWY
These bands would move tickets because their loyal followers travel
Why is this surprising? I'm a 94 baby for reference, we grew up on SOAD, MCR, Paramore, A7X, Slipknot, Panic! etc. Regardless of how "good" some people think these bands actually are, there's absolutely an emotional attachment to them for most of us. While the 2010s era bands came as we were between ages 16-early 20s already so the nostalgia isn't that strong for them in comparison. We didn't have our own disposable income during the prime of these bands, and most of us didn't get to go to their shows at the time. Now that we have the means to see them, we'll absolutely revert back to the feeling we had when we first started listening to them and have a blast. I started listening to Paramore at age 10 and didn't get to see them live until self titled era when I was 19, I barely got to see SOAD for the first time back in February this year. Give it another 5ish+ years for Gen Z to get a bit older, the 2010s bands would be their nostalgia era and their demand should spike again.
Having seen them right before their prime is why it’s surprising for me. They were fun and grew to be a bigger deal but I somehow left their show in 2000 thinking Powerman 5000 was the best thing I saw that day. I never tried to catch them again for whatever reason. Love for “nu-metal” bands always catches me off guard because I lived through the phase when much of it became uncool for whatever reason.
That's kind of nuts. I guess we all really do live in different realities. I don't think it ever really became uncool for my generation. Even as new music (2010s) came out, sure we branched out and listened to new stuff, but it didn't make the older stuff uncool. I don't listen to Paramore daily, or even weekly like I used to, but I still very much consider them my favorite band and go see them every time they're in California. Paramore fans still camp out for them overnight at the arenas too lol it's beautiful for me to see.
The Nu-Metal spectrum has always been weird to me because I wouldn't compare a SOAD to a Limp Bizkit, I can see how Limp became uncool but SOAD not so much. I could see how a Korn became uncool too.. but honestly they were way better live than I expected when they opened for SOAD and I gained a lot more respect for them. (Although I have always enjoyed a handful of Korn songs, I was just conscious that they were considered "uncool" while still listening to them lol)
I’ve been praising SOAD in these Coachella threads for a while. Those Feb. LA shows were breathless and a rare opportunity to see them play. Would be a huge hit for a SoCal festival to have them perform.
Right before SOAD came on stage at Banc, somebody mentioned When We Were Young fest the row behind me and I turned around and said I was going too. Within about a minute we saw that of the ~12 people closest to me at that concert, 8 were going to WWWY
These bands would move tickets because their loyal followers travel
Well it was apparent with the Harry stans up front that they got a ticket and showed up even if the secondary market didnt show that. You wonder how many people dumped their ticket once Rage was off since that was a main driving force in 2020.
My mock poster is almost done and I am lazy, who are realistic Yuma and Sonora acts for next year - not my forte - and especially who are good "top 3 on their day" Yuma names?