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Well, those two are right near the top of my must-see list. But seeing how jam bands are scarce this year (this is my personal opinion, please don't turn this topic into that discussion) I don't know how good it is that they're playing together.
I mean, I'm not gonna see either of them again any time soon and I'd really like to have a whole Umphrey's or Bisco show. Besides, it looks as if it might be conflicting with Oysterhead and if you miss one, you'll miss both.
Sure, the show really sounds great though. And maybe it will be long enough that we'll have a whole set by each band, and one together?
Post by Lucid Interval on Apr 15, 2006 22:02:41 GMT -5
I've been assuming that they're going to have one of the long latenight sets which pretty much is two shows in one... If they pit Oysterhead against those two it will be horrible, what makes it look like they'll be conflicting?? My take on the whole thing is that Um and Bisco tour all the damn time right now so its not hard to get out and see one or the other, Bonnaroo will be a rare chance to catch them both together creating something completely unique...
Yeah, I see what you mean, except they don't tour anywhere near me, so there. Some source said Umphrey's was playing on Friday, and Les' newsletter said Oysterhead was playing on Friday.
However, we've just been assuming that Oysterhead's playing late night. But I can't see them playing during the day...
Post by doobiedewey on Apr 16, 2006 0:49:46 GMT -5
the umphrey's/bisco set is going to be the highlight of roo... probably will even be remembered more hardcore than the radiohead set because like lucid said it is unique... I'm hoping for some brain damaged eggman and beatles covers like they did on jam cruise... but maybe that will be just the encore or something...
the way i see it now though is that there is basically enough time for 2 sets for each band and I'm sure there will be a lot of mixed lineups on stage at different times...
what i'm wondering though is if its going to be umphrey's > bisco > umphrey's > bisco > jamfest or bisco > umphrey's > bisco > umphrey's > jamfest.... i'm sure there will be some other kickass late night stuff going on regardless of who the set is pit against and im going to be so damn tempted to leave during umphreys...
i guess either way it will work out though, if umphrey's starts i could catch something else then... or if they finish i could just rest satisfied with the 2+hours or so of bisco and miss the encore for some late night dj tent or something (come on theivery corporation )
I wish they would have seperate sets also. I want a more solid set from both of them, instead of them playing together. On second thought, they need to have seperate sets then play together.
Post by Lucid Interval on Apr 16, 2006 12:27:21 GMT -5
Im still thinking that Oysterhead will be on the 2nd stage which means they will be all done before the latenight slots roll around...
You'll get a good dose of UM and Bisco im sure... They wouldnt give those two bands some short sh*tty little tent slot, i bet they'll have plenty of time to melt us all into a puddle...
Considering a late night slot like this will probably go 12-4am (translate as 12am-6am) and veritable sea of guests to pick from you can bet that it will be an interesting show. The onlything I'm not looking forward to is how packed it will be.
Nobody else plays during the headliner unlesss they decide to change things this year which I doubt. Lucid is right, I'm sure this will be a long show. I seriously doubt that either Umphrey's or Biscuits would agree to playing 'roo if they were gonna be given a short set. I think you'll get one long set of each band with some collaborations. I doubt they will play a set of Brain Damaged Eggmen though. When they did this in the past they were listed as an additional artist like on jamcruise. The other thing that leads me to believe they won't do a whole set of Braindamaged Eggmen is that it only involves a 3 members of UM and 2 members of Bisco. Being that this is the only set for either band it just doesn't seem fair that some members of each band would just have to chill why the others rip it up. I think they may play a few songs though, just not a whole set. I don't know for sure though, just my 2 cents. I'd say there is a decent possibility that the Eggmen could get an unannounced set though and that would just be amazing. Umphrey's website does list their tour date at Bonnaroo as all the days instead of just one.
I think he meant your post when you said Oysterhead would be on the second set so they'll be over before Umphrey's, but don't Late Night sets begin after headliners so wouldn't that imply that Oysterhead was playing at the same time as tom Petty?
Post by Lucid Interval on Apr 16, 2006 18:31:47 GMT -5
Hmmm, i suppose its true that if they're on the same night and both at night they could conflict... God that would be abosolutely terrible... You'd think that superfly would understand how big of a conflict that would be...
I think if they HAD to be on the same day it would be best to put Oysterhead on right before the headliner and give Bisco/UM the four hour latenight slot... We'll see what happens, what a horrifying thought though... I'd go to Oysterhead but it would be bitter sweet...
If only we knew for sure whether Oysterhead will be on stage or in a tent... Eh whatever im just confusing myself, we dont really know sh*t at this point...
The ideal thing, for me, would be to put Oysterhead against Radiohead. That would make it less crowded and it wouldn't conflict with anything I really wanted to see.
Post by keithk1055 on Apr 16, 2006 21:26:44 GMT -5
im 90 percent sure that tompetty will play after him will be oysterhead and then will be umph/bisoc. they will not put umph/bisco against oysterhead, there are already no jambands and they wouldnt do that. also i dont thin anyone will be dissapointed with the umph/bisco show. i am sure it wil be a great 4 hours.
I'm not either, because I think something about the current information is wrong. Right now on the schedule thread, we have Oysterhead on Friday based on a Les e-mail (which seems like a pretty official) and Umph Bisco as a confirmed late night tent show (Bonnaroo announcement) that seems to be set for Friday (Bisco site & Pollstar).
-I can't picture Oysterhead anywhere but on the 2nd stage latenight (I could be wrong of course). Oysterhead in a tent doesn't seem likely to me, as Les and Trey have been given the late night stage treatment in the past. Oysterhead in the 6:00 slot? I just can't picture it. Elvis Costello-->Tom Petty is such an obvious, natural pairing, while Elvis Costello-->Oysterhead-->Tom Petty just seems weird and improbable. I guess they could play the 2nd stage at 6:00, but I think they would have a far bigger crowd than Costello or Death Cab on the Main Stage, which doesn't seem to be a good approach at all.
-I cannot believe that Superfly would schedule Oysterhead and Umph McBisco to conflict with each other. That would just be too stupid.
-Based on past year's scheduling, I don't understand this notion that they could both play Friday late night but not conflict. Are people thinking Oysterhead around midnight and Umph McBisco around 2am? I think the Umphreys/Bisco set will start earlier than that, although I suppose its possible. The only example of this kind of scheduling in past years have been some of Particle's late-late night sets, and I think the Umphrey's/Bisco set is too big of a deal to fit in that kind of slot. I'm definitely expecting them to have a four hour slot and possibly playing long beyond that.
I think one of the two following things will prove to be true: Either there will be a new wrinkle in the scheduling that allows them both righteous slots that don't conflict, or the existing info is wrong and one of them is Friday late night and one of them is Saturday late night.
I think the combined billing of Umphrey's and Bisco is ideal. I think both will have the time to shine on their on with a unique collaboration in the middle and at the end. I'm guessing Bisco set-->huge combined jam-->Umphrey's set-->huge combined jam. Incidentally, I wouldn't be stunned to see Umphrey's or Bisco have their own set in the daytime on the schedule.
somebody mentioned a while back that they went to a show and there was a special performance by either moe and Umphreys or moe and Bisco. what they did was really cool.
they started off by having one of the two bands on stage. after a few songs, one member f the band would get replaced with the corresponding member of the other band. this would continue until the entire first band was gone and the entire second band was on stage.
i bet the UM&Bisco do the same thing. well, at least i hope they do. that would be ill.
Post by phishphan99 on Apr 17, 2006 13:18:59 GMT -5
I think that the reason Umph/Disco are listed for the 16th is because that is when Bonnaroo starts and they may have just listed that date because it is the begininning of the festival. A lot of bands do that. I am hoping!!
Umphrey's and moe. did the band member replacement thing at 'Roo '04. Instead of Umphrey's having a set break moe. came out and played Recreational Chemistry, Brent Black, and Enter Sandman.
I think that the reason Umph/Disco are listed for the 16th is because that is when Bonnaroo starts and they may have just listed that date because it is the begininning of the festival. A lot of bands do that. I am hoping!!
The Umphrey's/Bisco on Friday late night seems pretty solid to me (although anything can happen). The Biscuits site says the 16th, Umphrey's myspace site says the 16th, and Pollstar says Umphrey's on the 16th. What I'm hoping is that Oysterhead is on Saturday, contrary to the information on Les' site (there are conflicting/confusing dates on the Trey site and Phish site). I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Everyone must remember that bonnaroo LOVES to put two awesome shows up against one another. It wouldn't suprise me if Oysterhead plays against Ump/Bisco. If it's not this conflict, it will be one of these bands vesus Beck. I think those will be the best 3 late night shows.
Post by keithk1055 on Apr 17, 2006 17:31:37 GMT -5
mattland said:
Everyone must remember that bonnaroo LOVES to put two awesome shows up against one another. It wouldn't suprise me if Oysterhead plays against Ump/Bisco. If it's not this conflict, it will be one of these bands vesus Beck. I think those will be the best 3 late night shows.
i agree but there are a very limited amount of bands that draw the traditional jammy roo fans and they arent going to put the 2 largest draws for that crowd up against each other..... at least i cant imagine they would. there is plenty of time for oysterhead to play after petty, lets say 12 -2 (they only have one cd and some covers, even if there are a couple new songs it wont be much longet then a couple hours) then umph bisco can play the rest of the eveneing. i have also heard rumors that they will be having later stuff this year because of the turnouts that the dead and mars volta got with later starts. i have even heard it thrown around that mmw might be doing a sunrise/breakfest show after the latenight
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