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Post by mangopositive on Jun 9, 2006 20:15:55 GMT -5
wbennettjr said:
You might consider simply being a clean and sober rooer...you weren't born to be intoxicated, you know. It really is quite possible to enjoy yourself 'clean'...and you won't have a hangover to shake off, you won't sleep through half the event and you won't risk ingesting something that has more of a kick than you bargained for.
It is indeed possible, but NOT for everyone.
Everyone knows that MJ was made illegal so that Big Business could make more money (you can look that up... start with Dupont, then look up the contributors for "The Partnership for a Drug Free America"... you'll find that the largest builder of prisons in the WORLD is a major contributor, as well as the pharmaceutical companies).
well im not saying fuc.k him. to each their own. and if you have never tried drugs before and are just going off of the propaganda youlearn at school on tv then i would recommend that you eat some shrooms and smoke a couple of bowls at roo. so at least you will have some knowledge of what your talking about. most of the drugs you will se at roo keep people up not make them sleep. also a hangover goes away as soon as you take more drugs. kinda like my mom popping her prozac every morning. the idfference is i take my drugs for fun and my mom does it to make it through her miserable work day with out killing herself.
ahh ok... in that case i agree. fuck em. but only when they bother me. if they wanna go about there drug free lives and leave me alone then we can just wave while im on my way to roo and they are on their way to church to pray for me.
A little about me. 46 years old, let go of the pipe a little over a year ago after more than 26 years of using in moderate to heavy fashion and beginning to feel the health effects, AND watching my old man hooked to an oxygen hose 24/7/365 because he wouldn't put down the nic sticks...very little research on pot/lung disease but if anybody was on the road to proving it's possible, it was me. Father of 5, wanting to live a long healthy life, began to realize I was living under a cloud of haze and it came down to choices, as it must for us all...
So then. No straight edge, no virgin. Just somebody who came out the other side and can share some experience. Now, when I was young and wild would I have thought twice about what some middle-aged fart had to say? No. Am I well aware that 999 out of 1,000 people who read my posts on this subject will laugh me off? Yup.
It's just a counter-balance, that's all. I love the whole idea of music festivals and the group vibe, and I plan to go to as many as i can fit into my overly-responsible life. I'm starting to learn that there are a lot of these things, and many of them not too far from where I live in central PA. I spent a day at Mountain Jam last Sunday, and All Good is maybe 4 hours away in the opposite direction, so I can definitely plan lots of summer trips to take in all this great music and enjoy all the cameraderie.
Am I 'down on drugs'? I'm really not. What I am concerned about are people who don't know when enough is enough, and people who automatically connect things like music and drugs. Spend a decade in that thought process and it can get difficult to remember that we aren't born to be intoxicated, that we don't need to be chemically altered to get the most out of an experience, and that we can live and grow and go through all the ranges of emotions without relying on something to 'mellow' us.
No doubt many of you will read that and say 'of course, I already know that, I use responsibly and never use to duck the daily annoyances of life.' What I know now better than I used to is, there are also many who don't get that.
So, to them I say, it's OK to make a plan to make some changes along the way, and not get sucked further down into something you have trouble handling.
Am I preaching? You decide. Am I judging? No. Will I look down on somebody who is chemically altering themselves in my vicinity? No. Will I come to your aid if you pass out? I will.
As for this stuff about sleeping and hangovers, of course it depends on the c ocktail. Pot + alcohol ALWAYS wiped me out, and I ALWAYS wondered why I mixed the two, when all it did was cancel my good time.
And I ALWAYS did it again and again...which brings us right back around to, I had to make some changes.
Please take this information in the spirit intended.
Post by mangopositive on Jun 9, 2006 21:08:17 GMT -5
wbennettjr:
You have said nothing that doesn't make sense to me. I am currently attempting to have my first son (please let it be a son... I don't want to have to buy a shotgun), so I can totally relate to your position. I still smoke (both options), but I know that I will need to give them up soon. This 'Roo is my "farwell" to the party, so to speak. Being healthy is nothing to be ashamed of. I hope anyone reading your posts take them for the sound advice that they are. There is a time and a place for everything... and it's called "College".
well i know lots of poeple that use vacations like roo as their "return to the party" one family that comes to mind is my sons scout leader. hes the most normal computer programming in an office guy you could ever meet. 3 kids. church. the whole deal. at my sons bday party i had on a dead shirt and we started taking about roo and festivals and this guy partys hard man. it was a total surprise to me. him and his wife dont even smoke or anything anymore. but they got to 2 or 3 concert/camping trips a year withouth the kids and get crazy for a couple days then back to the real world
imakeycaca is right. If it's not going to be consumed/enjoyed before you get there, put it in the trunk or glove compartment and you'll be fine. They CAN NOT check these areas without either your consent or a search warrant.
Keep it smart and keep it safe.
If they have probable cause to believe that there is evidence of a crime in the vehicle, they can search the entire vehicle including the trunk.
on a normal basis. I too can tell when enough is enough.. but I will admit, at my first festival, I was tring to push it to the limit. something I will no longer try. I can relate to the guy dudewheresmyroo?? was talkin about. I don't really party hard anymore. drink maybe once every 2 months.. smoke once a week or so. so I use festivals like roo to bring me back to the "party scene". I totally support sobrity.
oh and IMO, MJ does have a hangover effect. when I wake up after a night of smokin, I'm always a lot more tired then I usually am (and I sleep the same amount of hours, in the same bed) so I'm not saying its a hangover that makes you sick or anything.. but it is a hangover.
You might consider simply being a clean and sober rooer...you weren't born to be intoxicated, you know. It really is quite possible to enjoy yourself 'clean'...and you won't have a hangover to shake off, you won't sleep through half the event and you won't risk ingesting something that has more of a kick than you bargained for.
Legal scholars, please feel free to translate this back to plain English for the rest of us.
This search was labeled as unconstitutional because it was an "ID Check" and the Tennessee Supreme Court felt that this fell under the U.S. Supreme Court case of the City of Indianapolis v Edmonds where it was determined that stops just to find criminal activity were unconstituional.
Still, one must not forget Michigan State Police v Sitz where it was ruled that stops to check for vehicle safety (which inlcudes things like working lights, tires with adequate tread, AND sobriety) were determined to be constituional under the 4th Amendment.