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I'm very happy with the field. Three (two really) good Dems and all three (again 2 really) Reps have fairly mainstream pasts. (Among them they've supported gay rights, reasonable tax increases to balance budgets, targetted middle class tax cuts, pro-choice issues, environmental enforcement, etc.)
I just hope the Reps stop their idiocy about making Bush's tax cuts for the rich permanent, increasing torture and attacking Iran when they get elected and go back to what they were before the radicalized to win the Rep nomination.
I thought he'd wait 'til after Super Tuesday. I bet he eventually endorses Obama.
Well maybe he can still get 15% in TN (since early voting ends today and many have already voted) If so, maybe I stand a chance of going to the Convention.
In 2004 Clark dropped out but got 15% and no one showed up to be his delegate except me. So I got to go to Boston as a delegate. It was a blast. Imagine me, as a nobody, going to all the political parties and hanging with Willie Nelson, Bono, and Ted Kennedy. (If you watch the Obama and Kerry speeches, you see me a lot, cheering in the crowd.)
With Edwards dropping out maybe no one will show up again (if he gets his 15%). Pretty doubtful now though.
Oh well, my vote is cast.
Last Edit: Jan 30, 2008 9:42:00 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
I thought he'd wait 'til after Super Tuesday. I bet he eventually endorses Obama.
Well maybe he can still get 15% in TN (since early voting ends today and many have already voted) If so, maybe I stand a chance of going to the Convention.
In 2004 Clark dropped out but got 15% and no one showed up to be his delegate except me. So I got to go to Boston as a delegate. It was a blast. Imagine me, as a nobody, going to all the political parties and hanging with Willie Nelson, Bono, and Ted Kennedy. (If you watch the Obama and Kerry speeches, you see me a lot, cheering in the crowd.)
With Edwards dropping out maybe no one will show up again (if he gets his 15%). Pretty doubtful now though.
Oh well, my vote is cast.
that's freakin' awesome - how did you put yourself out there to be his delegate?
Troo, how do you think the people will vote in Tenn?
Jerzee: It looks like Clinton was ahead by about 10 points but Edwards had about 15-20 and every Edwards supporter I know would change to Obama. So I see TN as a toss-up (maybe Clinton with a 2-3 point lead)
BTW Huckabee is in the lead for Reps in TN. That should interesting. (maybe because both Clinton and Huckabee are from next door in Arkansas.)
that's freakin' awesome - how did you put yourself out there to be his delegate?
In TN all you do is fill out a form to declare yourself for a candidate. If that candidate get 15% in your congressional district, he/she gets a delegate. The County hold its quarterly meeting and votes to send county delegates to the district convention. These county delegates vote on who goes to the National convention.
I was the only male in the county and the district who signed up and showed up to go for Clark in 2004. There was one female from a neighboring county (same district) who got to go as an alternate. The Kerry and Edwards camps fought for nearly 2 hours to elect their delegates because so many people showed up to go.
My district has 6 delegates to the National. This time it's 3 females, two males and a male alternate. Meaning I'd be an alternate as Edwards would be low man (assuming he get 15% which seems unlikely now)
I figured I fill out the form (downloaded it and mailed it) and see what happens.
Reps in this state let the Party pick delegates so only big shots go. Dems let the people pick and also have Super delegates so the big shots don't get left out.
Last Edit: Jan 30, 2008 10:13:53 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
It just occurred to me that we haven't seen Elizabeth Edwards in a while. I hope she's doing okay and it's not a health issue that is causing John to drop out at the kind of unusual time.
Troo, how do you think the people will vote in Tenn?
Jerzee: It looks like Clinton was ahead by about 10 points but Edwards had about 15-20 and every Edwards supporter I know would change to Obama. So I see TN as a toss-up (maybe Clinton with a 2-3 point lead)
BTW Huckabee is in the lead for Reps in TN. That should interesting. (maybe because both Clinton and Huckabee are from next door in Arkansas.)
Right now, if I had to chose a candidate, I'd go with McCain.
If Clinton dropped Bill or distanced herself from him, I might consider her as well. I just don't see her getting anything done in office with him involved.
Outside of those two, I don't see the other candidates as viable options.
It just occurred to me that we haven't seen Elizabeth Edwards in a while. I hope she's doing okay and it's not a health issue that is causing John to drop out at the kind of unusual time.
Post by ramblinman on Jan 30, 2008 13:27:22 GMT -5
I hope Paul wins the Rep. nomination and Obama the Dem. nomination. I like Paul's politics but Obama's message of unity is just infectious. If Clinton takes the Dems and McCain, Romney, or Huckabee the Reps then I'm going Green or Libertarian Party.
It just occurred to me that we haven't seen Elizabeth Edwards in a while. I hope she's doing okay and it's not a health issue that is causing John to drop out at the kind of unusual time.
I really like Elizabeth Edwards.
She was with John on stage just now and looks good. Glad to see it.
I think Conservatives dislike McCain because he didn't fall in line with Bush. He was in the gang of 14, wasn't for the tax cuts, he's against torture and was for Bush's immigration bill.
He scares me a bit because he's changed a lot of his view to court Reps and is for staying in Iraq until we have total victory (forever) and has said he's for possibly attacking Iran (he sang "Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb Iran" at campaign rallies)
Last Edit: Jan 30, 2008 13:55:30 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
Oh God, did any of you see thingy Morris (FOX News analyst) say that Edwards voters would not help Obama or Clinton as they are only Edwards supporters because they don't like blacks and women.
FOX will put anyone on TV. He must be taking his cue from Anne Coulter.
(the censor just changed the name D-i-c-k Morris to "thingy" Morris. How hilarious)
Last Edit: Jan 30, 2008 14:16:43 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
Edwards has a few delegates (around 10) wonder who he will give them to.
Edwards has 26 delegates and will probably get a few more on Super Tuesday as some people (like me) voted early.
Usually a candidate waits until the convention to release his delegates. Then they can vote however they please but are generally asked to vote for the presumptive nominee.
A close ballot and floor fight would make it interesting though. But probably won't happen. And 26-30 delegates is not enough to swing things anyway, especially with all the uncommitted Super Delegates.
Wow, I've really taken over this thread today (but you know how I am about politics.) I'll log off and let some of you other Roosters post a while.
Last Edit: Jan 30, 2008 14:26:33 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
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Post by canexplain on Jan 30, 2008 15:46:02 GMT -5
I am in a state of SHOCK !!!! as I was sitting in my truck during lunch, I was listening to the usual right wing bs I listen to each day … well Shawn hannity came on at the top of the hour … for the next 15 minutes, he went on and on, how he was soooooooooooooo WRONG, and McCain was right … Shawn actually said “we need more illegal’s to keep the cost of living down so we can address more important issues ………. He was wrong about the environment … let the other countries screw up their environment and lets keep ours good, even if that means smaller cars, less travel, and NOT drilling in Anwar … he said he had used to much rhetoric on people like Kennedy and finegold because we need people on the other side to work with us to help the US …. How people that idolize Reagan and want Ronnie’s ideas to be the way it is, are living in the past and it is time to move the Republican Party into a new age …. On and on …. I don’t trust Shawn, but everything he said, I agreed on … wtf is going on .. wow ….. I am speechless …. Canx************