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Yes Clinton scares me. I have a conspiracy theory that she has all this built up hate inside her from what Bill did that she is ready to unleash it unto the world. Obama is very likable, I'd vote for him if he didnt seem....how to say, seems like he doesnt have a set plan, he says what he wants to do but i dont think he could accomplish it (i also dont agree with all his views). But overall, the democrates scare me because they want to reinstate the ban on assault weapons along with other gun related laws.
Ya, I don't want the government telling me I can't own a gun. The whole principle of owning guns was to protect yourself from the government, being able to protect yourself from others is also a benefit. Remember, I'm from Kentucky, we love our guns, and we just hosted the NRA convention last week which reminds me of another side note, NRA gave Obama and Clinton an F rating. McCain wasn't great with a C but it definitely beats an F.
Edit Addition: I'm also not big on change. I don't like the big changes democrates wanna make. Healthcare for example, come on - lets be realistic. Our government has financial problems as it is, how do you expect us to fund a national health care program
Let me preface by saying I'm not picking a fight here. I am a supporter of the 2nd Amendment, a gun owner and am all for the government leaving us alone but...
Why do bans on importing assault rifle scare people more than the right of the government to confiscate property (incl/guns) and imprison people? I've never understood why people think the 2nd Amendment far outweighs the 4th. If I had to choose, I'd rather keep my property and freedom.
That's why the Reps scare me. They do not believe in a persons right to privacy or right to a fair and speedy trial.
Just MHO
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Yeah, I honestly don't understand why we need to be selling automatic weapons and grenades and sh!t like that. Why should people be able to buy weapons that the police don't have? Here in Philly we just had an officer gunned down when he pulled over an escaped convict and the convict shot him dead with an assault rifle. I'm all for self protection and recreational use of guns, but something has to change. If you wanna shoot one at a rifle range, why don't we just rent them out like bowling shoes?
Post by strumntheguitar on May 21, 2008 18:07:54 GMT -5
Well Ville, atleast I see where you're coming from now... I was trying to imagine something scary about Obama but I really couldn't do it. ;D
But I can see why you'd prefer McCain then if you're all about some guns. Not for me, personally, but hey... that's why America is the way it is I suppose, right?
^^ Iagree with you Strum. I have no problem with single issue voters and if guns are that single issue, so be it. My primary issue (not quite a single issue but close) is the right to be left alone. That's why I'm an anti-Republican.
And TheVille - Karma for being aware and active.
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Post by strumntheguitar on May 21, 2008 18:11:26 GMT -5
^^atleast you're openminded enough to still call them your friends. I know a lot of conservatives that refuse to associate with liberals, and vice versa.
Yeah, my internship finally ended last Friday. We were supposed to have a pizza party with Feingold, but his flight was delayed. We instead got a quick meet&greet/photo op taking up about ten minutes for eight of us. After sixteen weeks of being an intern, it was actually the first time I ever saw him in his hometown office.
Anyone see Lieberman's WSJ editorial bashing the Democratic Party? Man, I can't wait until the Dems gain a few seats in the Senate and they can kick this guys @ss to the curb. What a hypocrite, running as a solid Dem so he can get elected and then immediately defecting to the Reps (in all but name only so he can keep his committee seats)
McCain is hosting a little summit at his ranch this weekend, renewing speculation about his choice of veep. Guests include: Mitt Romney Bobby Jindahl, LA gov Charlie Crist, FL gov Sen. Lindsey Graham Sen. Joe Lieberman
Apparently, Tim Pawlenty was also invited but unable to attend due to scheduling conflicts.
McCain is hosting a little summit at his ranch this weekend, renewing speculation about his choice of veep. Guests include: Mitt Romney Bobby Jindahl, LA gov Charlie Crist, FL gov Sen. Lindsey Graham Sen. Joe Lieberman
Apparently, Tim Pawlenty was also invited but unable to attend due to scheduling conflicts.
Politico has a little review of the "top 3," which are apparently Jindal, Crist, and Romney.
Thanks for the link. I had just heard about that last night on Hannity's radio show. Ugh, yeah, I have to admit I listened to it... he was on after the Brewer game last night.
Anyway, I suspect the situation is more that McCain's lending his ear to these people about another choice as opposed to these people being on McCain's shortlist. I know he had a list of 20 names, and I think these were all on there.
Wow. Hillary just can't keep her foot out of her mouth. Why does the DNC continue to put up with her? She should tarred and feathered and run the fuck out of dodge, with Billy boy trailing behind her.
The Libertarians are having their convention this weekend. The last of their major contenders - Bob Barr - announced just two weeks ago, yet they'll have their nominee this weekend. Perhaps the major parties should take note of that...
Bob Barr won the Libertarian nomination today. Perhaps he'll put a small dent in McCain's numbers. Barr is representing causes that he has previously stated he is against. If I were a Libertarian, I would place my vote with someone else, perhaps Obama.
Bob Barr won the Libertarian nomination today. Perhaps he'll put a small dent in McCain's numbers. Barr is representing causes that he has previously stated he is against. If I were a Libertarian, I would place my vote with someone else, perhaps Obama.
I watched much more of the Libertarian Convention than I had intended on, but the relatively close count until the end drew me in! I don't know much about Mary Ruwart, but I was hoping she'd pull the upset. Bob Barr makes my skin crawl.
Anyway, if nothing else, it was a very entertaining process!
^I don't think that the libertarian party has much impact these days. I just hope the Nader thing does not screw us again. There is a decent argument to be made that he is responsible for the past 8 years of W. I know he says both parties are equally bad, and everyone deserves a chance, but good lord it is gonna be tight again, and it is not like the republicans split and vote for him just the democrats .
^^^I'm not sure the race will be that close. McCain and Obama are close now but that's with Obama getting beat on by both the Reps and Hillary while McCain has had a free ride. I think Obama will pull away as the race becomes a one on one campaign.
But the Dems can screw just about anything up so who knows for sure.
^I don't think that the libertarian party has much impact these days. I just hope the Nader thing does not screw us again. There is a decent argument to be made that he is responsible for the past 8 years of W. I know he says both parties are equally bad, and everyone deserves a chance, but good lord it is gonna be tight again, and it is not like the republicans split and vote for him just the democrats .
Election 2004 Nationwide Results: 3rd - Ralph Nader: .38% (465,650 votes) 4th - Libertarian Michael Badnarik: .32% (397,265 votes) So Nader beat the generally unknown Libertarian by roughly .06% / 68,500 votes.
Barr's probably going to do better than your average Libertarian candidate. He has more name recognition than the typical Libertarian candidate. He has served in Congress, unlike your typical Libertarian candidate. He's got fundraising contacts, his own PAC, etc at his disposal within Libertarian circles and back in his Republican days. He's got concrete conservative credentials (Defense of Marriage Act author, floor manager of Clinton impeachment) when, let's face it, there's a lot of conservatives who aren't happy about McCain. Huckabee was the GOP runner-up, we all saw Ron Paul, and even as presumptive nominee McCain's only winning primaries in the mid-70%s. There's a lot of potential to siphon off disaffected Republicans this election cycle.
Even if Nader somehow were to maintain his 2004 support, it isn't that far of a stretch to imagine the Libertarians surpassing him this year. At which point, it's more of a Barr problem for McCain than a Nader problem for... Obama?