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Since Obama decided to vote for the horrendous FISA bill and abandon us, I've abandoned Obama for the primary season. He'll get no help or money from me until after the Convention. I'm working on local elections.
Yes, it's a petty and meaningless protest but I will not support him if he will not support me. And I wrote him to let him know that. If he continues to move right, he will get my vote but little else.
Since Obama decided to vote for the horrendous FISA bill and abandon us, I've abandoned Obama for the primary season. He'll get no help or money from me until after the Convention. I'm working on local elections.
Yes, it's a petty and meaningless protest but I will not support him if he will not support me. And I wrote him to let him know that. If he continues to move right, he will get my vote but little else.
This dissapointed me also. I was going to make a donation sometime soon, I think I will follow suit and not do so until after the convention.
Am I the only one who thinks McCain's holding out on announcing his veep decision? There's about 4-5 days between the end of the Dem convention and the start of the GOP convention - yet another instance of compressed scheduling in this race. There's a tendency for candidates to get bumps in the polls both after announcing a running mate and after their party conventions. Is McCain tactically holding back his veep choice as an ace up his sleeve to play between the two conventions, to counter Obama's gains from having to announce veep/receive nomination first?
For what it's worth, I fear it will be Romney though he'd probably be better served selecting Gov. Pawlenty.
that does make a lot of sense. Although, goodness, McCain was on Good Morning America this week from Colombia and there were birds going all over the place and Robin joked "are you in a bird sanctuary?" And McCain's response was "this is a beautiful city and they really encourage tourism." Just made me think about how witty Obama would have been in the same situation. Or at least not such a dud.
My grandma loves Romney, I learned last weekend. It's not often I talk politics with her - she's a lifetime Republican seemingly stuck in her ways - but she & my parents were visiting town last weekend and it came up during lunch. Dad asked me about the running mate situation, and somewhere along the line she chimed in that Romney was the only qualified candidate of any party running this year. I kinda just bit my tongue about it, though after hearing that I wanted to stab myself in the face with my fork repeatedly. It was about five minutes before I had to leave and didn't want to go out on a bad note.
Strategically, though, the more I think about running against McCain-Romney the more I like it...
I was watched an interview Romney had with Jay Leno a while back and it was so contrived. Romney talked about how his wife made him granola every morning and how he went for a five mile jog afterwards. He severely damaged the educational system when he was governor of Massachusetts. If he's chosen as VP, thats one more great reason not to vote Republican.
Am I the only one who thinks McCain's holding out on announcing his veep decision? There's about 4-5 days between the end of the Dem convention and the start of the GOP convention - yet another instance of compressed scheduling in this race. There's a tendency for candidates to get bumps in the polls both after announcing a running mate and after their party conventions. Is McCain tactically holding back his veep choice as an ace up his sleeve to play between the two conventions, to counter Obama's gains from having to announce veep/receive nomination first?
For what it's worth, I fear it will be Romney though he'd probably be better served selecting Gov. Pawlenty.
The political "insiders" are saying the McCain intends to wait and announce his VP immediately after Obama does to counter any bounce Obama may get. I've heard this from many people who could likely be in the know. I even heard a pundit on PBS (I think) say that this was a well known strategy f the McCain campaign.
Seems rather petty to me but I guess McCain need every scrap he can get.
Of course with McCain shifting staff every month who knows what the current strategy is.
I have not seen this, despite being a member of the Progressive Patriots Fund. Thanks for the heads up. I didn't deal with those people during my internship, though. I was in the Senate office, which was different from the campaign office. I know a guy who works for PPF, and I'll ask him more about this when I see him.
I actually just received an email about this from the PPF, literally 1 minute ago. How'd you beat them to the punch?
I wish one of these Progressive Patriot candidates was based in Wisconsin, but since there's not I might have to travel.
Minnesota's probably my best geographic bet - it's the next closest state, with Franken for Senate and a House challenger. I know a few people in the Twin Cities, too, so I wouldn't feel entirely alien. North Carolina sounds strangely tempting to me, too. I have a couple friends who moved out there the past few years as well.
That training session is the weekend of the GOP convention. I have an invite to go up to the Twin Cities that weekend, which is awfully tempting. Then again, so is this...
Ha, I just clicked a banner ad from somewhere...dailykos I think? I knew you'd be interested as soon as I saw it.
Anyway, I really wish I was able to do this, but with school and work, it's nearly impossible. If you do it, though, let us know how it goes!
Also, in election news, Planned Parenthood endorsed Barack Obama yesterday. It's only the 2nd time they've ever endorsed a presidential candidate. I, for one, am VERY excited Anyone else's thoughts on the matter?
Post by slorchiepoo on Jul 8, 2008 23:35:30 GMT -5
i came to the conclusion today that i am so fucking tired of ALL, yes ALL, politicians. the mainstream ones are all going to say whatever they think it is that we want to hear, and i don't really think any of them give a fuck about us...unless we can donate a significant amount of money to their campaign.
i'm so over obama and mccain, and absolutely hate that i have more than a year to go of hearing their cutting remarks and soundbites all over the news. one day i'll live in a remote village in some third world country and at least there the leaders won't lie about not caring since they don't have to save face anyway.
Post by slorchiepoo on Jul 8, 2008 23:47:51 GMT -5
what's that supposed to mean? it'd make sense if i was even somewhat russian.
excuse the f*ck out of me for having an opinion. let me take that back-all politicians are so in touch with reality and the woes of the average american in troubling times. they are all so caring and genuinely concerned. man, i think i'm gonna start touring with politicians - screw bands.
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
i realize russia isn't exactly england, but for the most part it isn't considered a third world country, know what i'm sayin'? plus if i'm gonna throw myself into a remote village, it's gonna at least be in a tropical-like climate so i can study all the wildlife.
like i said, i was just sharing an opinion about politicians and how worthless they seem to be. excuse me for having shed the rose-colored glasses. obama spends most of his time dissing mccain, and mccain can't give a straight answer about his possible iraq strategy to save his life. so tired of it all.
i agree... voting R or D is choosing the lesser of two evils, and always will be, until we have a massive overhaul of our political system, which, in my opinion, has jumped the shark
however, I will vote for Obama, because I think that he at least feels like changing a few things... McCain will be more of the same we've had since 2000 (or 1980?)
plus i like what Obama has said about the War on Druqks:
"i don't think that is an acceptable use of our resources"
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
i agree... voting R or D is choosing the lesser of two evils, and always will be, until we have a massive overhaul of our political system, which, in my opinion, has jumped the shark
I don't see the "evil" when I look at Obama, at least nowhere near what I'd be sensing in a typical election year.
And yeah, a shitty system is what's been cranking out shitty candidates. Shame on us shitty citizens for letting it happen.
Okay, so maybe I have my rose-colored glasses on, but I really think that Obama really does care about us. How can you look at him and say that he’s only out for himself and goes whichever way the dollar does? Sure, to run for president you have to like having power and to be in the public eye and deal with all that comes with that. And you have to have an effective PR team to make sure your message actually gets through. And both of those things do tend to mask the good intentions of the most sainted politician. But yeah, Obama isn’t evil. He’s definitely one of the good guys. I’m not even sure McCain is completely evil (although I will cry if he’s elected).
And slorchie - you only have 4 months left, not over a year. So there's some good news!
With a political record as brief as Obama's, of course you don't see the negative side of him!
Funny... W didn't have much in the way of résumé/experience either, yet I somehow saw through his bullhonkey eight years ago.
Mmhmm. It was much easier to see where his priorities were considering who his father was, and his business activities with oil and the Texas Rangers. Also, he is a considerably less impressive public speaker.