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Post by strumntheguitar on Aug 29, 2008 2:27:10 GMT -5
I was honestly hoping for a better speech out of him. I mean, it was good... great, even -compared to others... coughbushcough. ;D
But I feel like I've heard everything he said in that speech before on his campaign. I was hoping for something revolutionary. Not a speech that reiterated his campaign ideals and countered/attacked his opposition.
I still agree it was a good speech tho. But Obama has such a high level of expectations when it comes to public speaking, I was almost let down... although the monstrous size of the crowd -to me atleast- spoke larger volume than anything that came out of Obama's mouth. That man has got a HUGE following!
There's no way in hell any other politician, even ol' Johnny boy, could have brought out such a monstrous crowd... I mean we're talking on comparable levels of the Roo here!
I thought he did exactly what was needed. He gave an inspirational speech, full of the promise of the American dream, and contrasted how McCain was out of touch with that dream. He also addressed every Republican talking point, filing their points down to useless nubs.
As for the huge crowd, I think it remains to be seen whether that is a good thing. I think it plays directly into the Reps idea of Obama as an elite Hollywood-type celebrity and could alienate the "common man." But it also allowed 60,000 extra people to be a part of the speech and could provide 60,000 volunteers to network, possibly throwing Colorado into the Dem column.
We'll only have to wait a few days to see how the Reps react. It will certainly be attack and smear. And its a proven fact that people respond more to negative attacks and fearful rhetoric. We'll just have to wait and see if the positive style of Obama can hold up.
Last Edit: Aug 29, 2008 7:58:43 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
He's trying all he can for the pissed off hillary supporters but do you think all the Pumas will vote for some one like this? She was a runner up for Miss. Alaska. Plus three years ago she was the Mayor of Wassila, Alaska population of 42.
This is ridicolous. If anyone was unsure, this is why we need to vote for Obama/Biden. Obama picked someone great for the country and the world, Mccain picked someone he think will get Hillarys voters so he can get elected. I do not want this woman to be president if by a fluke McCain wins, and passes. Oh no
I told my wife Tuesday after the Hillary speech that McCain would pick Palin. McCain has no chance without disenchanted Hillary voters. And I'm afraid it may work. Here's a few of my fears. Let me state that these do not apply to all women, just the ones McCain thinks he can sway.
There is no legitimate woman waiting to become President if Hillary is not it. Many women are afraid they lost their one chance at seing a woman Prez in their lifetime. Palin sets another woman on the road to the White House.
Obama and Biden must now tiptoe around in their criticism of Palin or the the accusations of masogynism will begin again. "Typical of those men to pick on that poor woman." Hillary must play the attack dog. Let's hope she is really committed to an Obama Presidency.
This raises interest in the Rep Convention. Who'd want to watch Romney again. Now I know I'll watch Palin's speech just to find out more about her. And the Reps can paint her any color they like knowing the Dems must be careful in how they contradict their portrayal.
I think Palin is a high stakes pick with lots of risk but the potential to reshape the election. I only hope that just a small percentage of women will vote against their own interests just to elect a woman.
Last Edit: Aug 29, 2008 13:03:45 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
but she is everything the evagelical right wanted that McCain couldnt give them. And they are playing up the fact she has a 3 month son with DS and her older son is going to Iraq. This is a put all the money on a long shot and could pay off big try by McCain. The right will jump all over themselves to vote for her unless someone comes up with info that she got a drunken abortion by a muslim docter on christmas day.
Does anyone remember Palin's Trooper-gate scandal? She is accused of using her position as Governor to fire her sister's ex-husband from the the Alaska Highway Patrol. Her sister was embroiled ina bitter divorce and custody battle. When the troopers boss wouldn't fire him because he had done nothing wrong, she fired the boss.
There was an investigation started but I never heard any results. Anyone know anything?
Edit: Olbermann just caught me up on the scandal. The investigation is still ongoing and the trooper is apparently not a very sympathetic character (@sshole) so no one wants to seem as if they are on his side. It will likely be a non-issue.
Last Edit: Aug 29, 2008 19:24:06 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
I give you karma for being honest, but they will take a women's rights away. Plus it's sad to see him troll for Hillary's votes. He's only met her twice.
Post by steveternal on Aug 30, 2008 10:44:26 GMT -5
^^^Karma back at ya when I can. But the abortion issue aside, I think the Palin pick was just about the smartest thing McCain has done thus far in his campaign. Troo's right, this may make a big difference. Personally, however, I'm still leaning towards not voting.
Actually as the idea of Palin sinks in. what keeps coming back to me more and more is the fact that McCain could conceivably die in office (oldest 1st term Prez and multiple cancer survivor) and Palin is basically a small town Mayor. Scary!
I think the Rep base will like her and a few disenchanted women may go with her but overall it shows poor judgement and is pure and obvious (too obvious) pandering.
I think Palin looks good at first glance but will likely be seen as a weak pick. I think McCain was desperate after Hillary's speech and picked Palin on the spur of the moment. With more time and forethought, I believe he'd have picked someone stronger.
But as I said before, it does shake things up. It's a last ditch, desperate gamble that is a looooong shot but could pay off.
Last Edit: Aug 30, 2008 11:01:27 GMT -5 by troo - Back to Top
Hey! I'm back from Denver! It was just the most exciting 2 1/2 days ever!
And the Palin pick was surprising to everyone out there as well - and think it was a weird pick considering how much McCain has been attacking Obama on his short resume. But, you know, McCain will do anything to get elected.
Anyway, here are a few pictures:
Me and my coworker super excited to be inside the Pepsi Center on Wednesday:
Right in the middle of this picture is the back of Bill Clinton's head. We had heard that trying to get into this entrace would be better since the views were so crappy. Yeah - we were in the very, very last row and if I had been sitting two seats further to the right, I would have missed even the back of his head.
After his speech, we were very persistant and nice to the volunteer guarding a doorway on the other side and were rewarded with much better seats for Biden. Still nosebleed, but further down in the section and dead-on!
I got into the stadium around 2:30pm - only took me about 30 minutes from downtown Denver to inside security because we snuck up a hill and slid into the front of the security line!
Here I am with Yonder Mountain String Band! Well, with them in the background. So exciting - I didn't even know they were going to be there!
thanks! Having the huge numbers at Invesco was amazing, but the vibe was so much higher at the Pepsi Center - I could just feel the whole building vibrating with excitement.
So one of the partners at my company was trying to get me into a party at Invesco Thursday night but said it was too crazy. Wasn't too sad - we went to the CNN Grill instead, which was really cool by itself. Then I found out yesterday that Barack was at the Invesco party! So bummed.