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I dont know if I am the only one on this board that got a citation from Manchester Shefiffs Office, after the DTF tore my truck apart for 20 minutes and found about 15 dollars worth of schwag. They charged me with Simple Possesion they said if I pay the fine the charge would go away. They would not tell me how much it was They said they would mail me a bill. I thought it would be like 200 dollars, at the most 500.
Well I got my letter a few days ago and opened it and about fainted $$1348.00 for a simple possesion charge.
1300 bucks is a nuts load of money for some ignorant possesion charge.
i think the fine is only about 300 and some change. they tacked on 500 for county fund and 500 dollars for net fund?
I am no lawyer but this has got to be blackmail, extorsion or something, because they know your gonna pay it because your from out of state and 2 the charge would go away if you pay it and as many people as they caught they stand to make a lot of money. The thing that pisses me off is that all together with tickets, spending money, supplies, comes out to 1000 bucks altogether on Roo. And after roo I am tryin to financially recover. So when I get a bill for 1300 dollars I was about to Rage.Thats hittin somebody when there down. They try put up this front like "were not hear to bust the potheads were after the meth attics and stuff" I actually read thet in an article on Bonnaroo, they are so full of sh1t. First thing I said was I aint goin back next year. But realistically I will be there and I aint bringin sh1t next year. ???
Post by bluevelvet on Jul 16, 2006 12:46:59 GMT -5
Seems a little over the top. If I were you I would get a lawyer and see if you can get it changed. It would still be cheaper than that. My divorce lawyer charges $150 an hour, so you can probably get one for less than that I am sure.....
Good luck and yes the moral is do not take anything with you next time
Post by bluegrassmale on Jul 16, 2006 17:11:01 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about that. I think TN passed a law that states anyone caught with certain substances must pay a tax on the the amount that is found. You may want to check on it. I agree with getting a lawyer. If the lawyer can get you out of the charge and the fine, it may still be cheaper than just paying the fine.
Did you come in on Wednesday night? That seems like when most of the car tossing occurred. I didn't see any substantial searches on Thursday afternoon.
I got there about 6:30pm Thursday, there was no lines at the booths just a line of about 10 or 12 cars turning off the interstate, and I was just following everybody else, they were searching somebody else, when we pulled in, and one of the people directing traffic said, they wanna see you over there, and I stpopped and the woman from the DTF said, "god afternoon, step out of the truck and empty your pockets" there was only two people with DTF shirts on, the rest were a bunch of rednecks with sherriffs shirts on, theres no way they were real cops, they were just the muscle in case somebody was gonna pull a gun.They searched my back pack and under the seat and the glovebox, and of courese the ashtray, they opened a few of my CD cases, looked in a bag of clothes behind the seat And behind the seat of the truck in the Coleman box that had my tent fan in it was in there was a few bowl packs of bud in a bag with a little small one hitter. And when she found that ,You would of thought I just shot somebody she was so pissed. I didnt see what the big deal was. So she said go over to the processing table, where they had a real cop. He did the paperwork.I thought they were just gonna confinscate I couldnt believe they busted me for that.
It was just inside the gate, they really didnt give me any choice. They were assh0les, I dont think there was any way I was getting out of there without getting searched, no matter if I told them they could or not.
"Never consent to a search. You kinda busted yourself on that one. "
theres really not much you can do, i was almost in the same situation. i didnt consent at first so they said ok, got the dog, and searched anyway. i guess we lucked out thopugh cux they missed our $15 worth of schwag.
Your not required to wait on any dog if you are not being arrested. If they are all done you have the right to be on your way. I know its a hard thing but its the law.
Post by shagadellic on Jul 21, 2006 19:02:03 GMT -5
i was at waka in know this is inforoo but anyway, walking down the road and cop stops me puts me up against the fence finds 3 small caps, i mean small maybe 2grams at the most i got a ticket for possesion they said they would mail all the info, i've been charged with a 2nd degree FELONY possesion of a controlled substance, the fine 15,000 dollars, i'm going up there with my lawyer cause that is bull sh1t. be careful in kansas y'all
Your not required to wait on any dog if you are not being arrested. If they are all done you have the right to be on your way. I know its a hard thing but its the law.
i was at waka in know this is inforoo but anyway, walking down the road and cop stops me puts me up against the fence finds 3 small caps, i mean small maybe 2grams at the most i got a ticket for possesion they said they would mail all the info, i've been charged with a 2nd degree FELONY possesion of a controlled substance, the fine 15,000 dollars, i'm going up there with my lawyer cause that is bull sh1t. be careful in kansas y'all
Damn, I thought they got me bad. I feel for you dude, both at Waka and Roo, they are only there for ONE REASON, TO MAKE MONEY, they aint there to "save innocent lives", or to "bust the meth heads", they know that 95% of all people going to these festivals,have some kind of illegal substance on them or in there car, mostly pot. But look hopw many people go to these festivals are potheads, there aint nothin wrong with smokin a little pot. But when they start stopping cars and searching, its like shooting fish in a barrel. As with me they were goin to search until they found something. And as far as everybody saying that you aint gotta let them search, you aint just gonna tell them you cant search, they will search you car then,I dont even know why they ask, tehy will searc anyway cause they aint gonna let you leave, I have seen this happen before, as soon as you say no they think you have something to hide, unless you are a lawyer because they damn sure aint gonna let some white trash hippie like my self walk all over them. Oh yeah and dont forget cops WILL plant stuff on people, so you cant be an A$$hole to them. Just because they are cops doesnt mean they are law biding, fair, honest people. There are A lot of crooked cops out there.
Post by chopperdave on Jul 22, 2006 12:16:31 GMT -5
headinlot said:
shagadellic said:
i was at waka in know this is inforoo but anyway, walking down the road and cop stops me puts me up against the fence finds 3 small caps, i mean small maybe 2grams at the most i got a ticket for possesion they said they would mail all the info, i've been charged with a 2nd degree FELONY possesion of a controlled substance, the fine 15,000 dollars, i'm going up there with my lawyer cause that is bull sh1t. be careful in kansas y'all
Damn, I thought they got me bad. I feel for you dude, both at Waka and Roo, they are only there for ONE REASON, TO MAKE MONEY, they aint there to "save innocent lives", or to "bust the meth heads", they know that 95% of all people going to these festivals,have some kind of illegal substance on them or in there car, mostly pot. But look hopw many people go to these festivals are potheads, there aint nothin wrong with smokin a little pot. But when they start stopping cars and searching, its like shooting fish in a barrel. As with me they were goin to search until they found something. And as far as everybody saying that you aint gotta let them search, you aint just gonna tell them you cant search, they will search you car then,I dont even know why they ask, tehy will searc anyway cause they aint gonna let you leave, I have seen this happen before, as soon as you say no they think you have something to hide, unless you are a lawyer because they damn sure aint gonna let some white trash hippie like my self walk all over them. Oh yeah and dont forget cops WILL plant stuff on people, so you cant be an A$$hole to them. Just because they are cops doesnt mean they are law biding, fair, honest people. There are A lot of crooked cops out there.
Yeah, but in real people world the law applies. Just because you weren't smart enough to tell them no doesn't mean you couldn't have.
the main thing is they may search you anyways but if you give them permisiion everything they find is going against you. if you tell them no then you have a leg to stand on atleast with illegal search and seizure. alot of these pigs just assume that you will mail in the money and be done with it. deciciding to vhallenge it in court on grounds of illegal search and seizure costs them money and draws attention to thie nazi tactics. its likey that they would drop it to save money. but if they stop ya and have a dog there your kinda screwed. just keep saying unless you charging me with something or detaining me i need to be on my way. but in the end they are criminals and will do what they please. it ruins the vibe at these places. as long as the vibe is being ruined i say that there is 80000 of us and a couple dozen of them. we should just gang up and get rid of the assholes. im sure that would be the end of roo though. i just wish the fuck nuts would leave us alone. im sure there are plenty of rednecks molesting their kids in southern tennesee. maybe they should focus more on somethinglike that instea of standing in a circle stroking eachothers meat and ruining vacations. i hope that karma comes back on these people with a vengeance.
i was at waka in know this is inforoo but anyway, walking down the road and cop stops me puts me up against the fence finds 3 small caps, i mean small maybe 2grams at the most i got a ticket for possesion they said they would mail all the info, i've been charged with a 2nd degree FELONY possesion of a controlled substance, the fine 15,000 dollars, i'm going up there with my lawyer cause that is bull sh1t. be careful in kansas y'all
Once the dude was on the grounds he had no right to refuse the search. At that point he was on private property and had basically consented to their terms and conditions.
Completely wrong to accuse the dude of 'not being smart enough'. Also a fair point that refusing a search in a strange place with a wall of law enforcement staring you down takes more nuts than most humans have.
Older thread, but none the less, everyone please be careful... know your rights and be friendly/calm. Offer ice water or snacks. Look "alive" not too alive though.
Offer ice water or snacks. Look "alive" not too alive though.
this!
i said it once and i will say it again. people have no idea how far a little kindness and calmness can go. i used to live in tn and i can honestly say i've gotten out of some very sticky situations just cause i was a gentlemen and acted like the officer was my friend
"Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made." Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Soul of Man Under Socialism
"You're either on the bus or off the bus." Ken Kesey
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
So now you've got me wondering what the chances are of getting your car searched AFTER you're inside the Bonnaroo perimeter. I do know that someone who posted earlier was correct in stating that once you are on Bonnaroo property, your ticket purchase is an agreement that you can be searched.
if the cops are on site they have been given the permission to be there and "enforce the law". which i'm pretty sure gives them the right to search you with or without your consent because it is private property. am i wrong?
"Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made." Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Soul of Man Under Socialism
"You're either on the bus or off the bus." Ken Kesey
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
Post by Del Griffith on Jun 3, 2011 12:24:02 GMT -5
once you're on ROO property post car search, don't act a fool and give them reason to pull you out of line or wherever and pat you down or question you.
also, be somewhat under control of yourself while chilling at your campsite. especially at night.
they can and will be walking around or on 4 wheelers with their eyes and ears open.