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HUGE Modest Mouse fan.... not so much of the new album.... just like I said in the other thread: The great band that made great music before "Good News" I think may be no more... It's sad.
Post by bojangles22 on Mar 6, 2007 18:31:22 GMT -5
I think that may be a reflex most people have regarding their favorite band getting popular.... my first modest mouse albums were"....long drive..." &"lonley crowded west" and i just worked forwards and backwards from there... I thought "good News" was pretty damn good. for me each album has it's own personality...imo Lonly crowded west was relentlessly sarcastic, deliciously feirce and on point. long drive was elegantly streched out, similar to highway driving, sparse and fully open allowing plenty of contimplation with a good bit of touches here and there of musical 'interest points' and 'landmarks'. i'm looking forward to the new album. no band, no matter how talented is immune to the evils of 'submitting to complacency' that makes a band create a 'safe' album that marks no new teritorry. ya gotta innovate all the time. but saying that modest mouse has stagnated would be imo, jumping ship too early. i know thats forboding givin the name of the new album but i think it will hold up.
Post by lizardking0729 on Mar 7, 2007 8:58:03 GMT -5
I am one of those modest mouse fans that complains about the newer albums. I understand that they must move on to newer areas, but I just dont like the newer poppy sound that they seem to be putting out in their newer releases. I think their new album sounds a bit too much like a FRAnz Ferdinand album or something...just my opinion though...
A complaint to me about either Good News or The Ship would certainly fall upon deaf ears.
I guess it might be easy to call out a poppy sound, and even compare them to other bands, but in the end, i guess it's difficult to restrain yourself from adding a line from Good News in your signature.
"GOD - who'd wanna be...such a control freak." ???
Post by lizardking0729 on Mar 7, 2007 13:29:59 GMT -5
mantaray said:
A complaint to me about either Good News or The Ship would certainly fall upon deaf ears.
I guess it might be easy to call out a poppy sound, and even compare them to other bands, but in the end, i guess it's difficult to restrain yourself from adding a line from Good News in your signature.
"GOD - who'd wanna be...such a control freak." ???
Touche salesman, I wasnt bashing those albums perse. Its like when people bash on an album like Coda or In Through The Out Door as compared to earlier albums. Those albums were still made by Led F*ckin Zeppelin so theyre masterpieces anyways (except "Hot Dog", I dont condone that song). I still like Good News, and Isaac's lyrics are still infectious. But they really dont have that kinda jam session interludes in their songs like they used to, which is what really got me into them (on songs like Lounge and Cowboy Dan).
Post by placidcasual79 on Mar 7, 2007 13:38:44 GMT -5
i understand that We Were Dead has some catchy songs on it, but i dont get the Franz Ferdinand comparisons i keep reading about. Anyway, my 2 cents...after repeated listens i think i like the new album more than Good News. I enjoy the old stuff a lot more, but i am too into this band to write them off just because we wont ever get an 'Exit Does Not Exist' or 'Truckers Atlas' (etc) again.
But they really dont have that kinda jam session interludes in their songs like they used to, which is what really got me into them (on songs like Lounge and Cowboy Dan).
indeed. You are right. Cowboy Dan rules. My fav album is The Moon & Antarctica, with my fav song on that album being Stars Are Projectors; so i feel ya on missing some of the songs that clock in over 9 minutes. If i came off being a buzzkill my last post, sorry, that wasn't my intension. It's just that Good News is a great album, imo.
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
Post by lizardking0729 on Mar 14, 2007 6:51:25 GMT -5
They are definitely more of a small venue band...its too personal a show to be sitting far back listening, you have to be able to see wha t Isaac and the band are doing...I agree fully. But despite that, I would still like to see them at Bonnaroo because I know I would be close enough to experience that.
Post by nashvillekat on Mar 23, 2007 11:23:00 GMT -5
I have been listening to the new Modest Mouse for about two weeks now and this is what I have to say about it...... I love Modest Mouse. I think Brock has an amazing talent that allows him to use clever word play to express even the most pessimistic of emotions. I think their music initially appealed to a more lyric savvy audience in the beginning because their beats although genius and complicated, where difficult to dance to. Now with the release of Good News and We were Dead, we are seeing some more upbeat attitudes. But if you listen to both albums closely, the pessimism can still be detected. That being said I too don't like the new albums as much, but I can say that they have grown on me. and the new poppy sound does make for good summer music. I guess you can't always be in a bad mood.
Post by lizardking0729 on Mar 23, 2007 15:52:51 GMT -5
I wasnt diggin it when I first listened to it, but after a few more listens I am starting to like it. Songs are starting to grow on me, it was the same way with Good News for me.
I really like March Into The Sea, Spitting Venom, Fly Trapped In A Jar, and Parting The Sensory..Some others I have not caught on to yet but maybe it'll come with more time...
Post by placidcasual79 on Mar 23, 2007 17:02:00 GMT -5
lizardking0729 said:
I wasnt diggin it when I first listened to it, but after a few more listens I am starting to like it. Songs are starting to grow on me, it was the same way with Good News for me.
I really like March Into The Sea, Spitting Venom, Fly Trapped In A Jar, and Parting The Sensory..Some others I have not caught on to yet but maybe it'll come with more time...
Spitting Venon. Fly Trapped in a Jar and Parting of the Sensory are probably my favorites. I do enjoy some of the more 'catchy' tunes as well like Florida.
The more I listen to it, the more I move from "unimpressed" to "dislike" to, right now, damn near approaching "hate." I really can't stand it. I gave it allot of listens and, meh, nothing. At least Good News had some catchy-fun stuff, even if i dislike that album too, but this new one is just bland as hell.
EDIT: BUT(!) that's not gonna stop me from seeing one of my favourite bands of high school in their east-coast tour. I'm psyched about that shite, I'll just put on headphones when they play anything from the last 3 years.
Post by placidcasual79 on Mar 26, 2007 8:31:35 GMT -5
mothersky said:
The more I listen to it, the more I move from "unimpressed" to "dislike" to, right now, damn near approaching "hate." I really can't stand it. I gave it allot of listens and, meh, nothing. At least Good News had some catchy-fun stuff, even if i dislike that album too, but this new one is just bland as hell.
EDIT: BUT(!) that's not gonna stop me from seeing one of my favourite bands of high school in their east-coast tour. I'm psyched about that shite, I'll just put on headphones when they play anything from the last 3 years.
we all have our opinions...just find it hard to see how anyone who really likes this band could HATE this album.
Post by lizardking0729 on Mar 26, 2007 11:17:52 GMT -5
mothersky said:
The more I listen to it, the more I move from "unimpressed" to "dislike" to, right now, damn near approaching "hate." I really can't stand it. I gave it allot of listens and, meh, nothing. At least Good News had some catchy-fun stuff, even if i dislike that album too, but this new one is just bland as hell.
EDIT: BUT(!) that's not gonna stop me from seeing one of my favourite bands of high school in their east-coast tour. I'm psyched about that shite, I'll just put on headphones when they play anything from the last 3 years.
I find vagueness in your argument for the new album because you said you liked good news because at least it had some catchy fun stuff (which is the poppy stuff on that album) but that is not what Modest Mouse originally was about. I think this album strikes closer to the older stuff than Good News did. Granted it seems they have taken a little bit of a safer and less expiramental approach to their music, but I think it falls in line more with the older stuff I loved than with Good News...IMHO
Post by bojangles22 on Mar 26, 2007 12:59:21 GMT -5
I've gave the album a few more run throughs and it's okay, but not super... I think the pitchfork review was a little too easy on brock and the boys(think it was between 7.5 and 8.0) i intend on keeping it on play for a little while longer though to see if it grows on me((I HATED the new Flaming Lips album when it first came out... and i went back and listened to it not long ago and it was on FIRE yo! i don't know what i was thinking hating on it, i should slap myself.) Anyways, i still like "we were dead" the beginning 4 or so songs are good, as well as the last few songs, but when listening to it it gets pretty stagnate and bland halfway through. I think they could have experimented more with different sounds, and relaxed the pace, to change the consistancy and create more contrast.
^ I was really hoping that Good News was just them testing out the commercial waters, I really have an uncanny distaste for hearing that album (though I can't say it's worse than anything else coming out right now). I was looking forward to the release of the new album, hoping that the band would take this opportunity to capitalize on their (established with Good News) commercial success, and throw a bone to their old fans, as well as expose to those who may have just heard Good News, maybe Moon & Ant., that they are much more than a faux indie-post-punk band to be catergorized with the likes of Franz Ferdinand. But this album just reaffirmed my "worst case scenario" for this band: Sell-out. I hate to be cliche, but damn, man, is this really the best that they should be doing?!?
I would be hard pressed to find anyone (ANYONE)who can say that this holds a near-dead match to the earlier stuff.
I will give them a few more years or so, and if their output isn't getting any better, I'll say to hell with Modest Mouse.
Edit: quote: I find vagueness in your argument for the new album because you said you liked good news because at least it had some catchy fun stuff (which is the poppy stuff on that album) but that is not what Modest Mouse originally was about. I think this album strikes closer to the older stuff than Good News did. Granted it seems they have taken a little bit of a safer and less expiramental approach to their music, but I think it falls in line more with the older stuff I loved than with Good News...IMHO
I NEVER said I liked Good News, I said at least it had some catchy albums, even though i disliked it.
