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That's redonkulous. I mean, rock legends can command those kinds of prices, sure... but really, Dweezil, while still a very good musician in his own right, is really just the son of a rock legend. No offense to Dweezil or any of the other members of ZPZ - but they don't command those prices.
I skipped Zappa Plays Zappa at Bonnaroo this year in favor of B.B, King, which was one of my most eagerly anticipated sets of Roo.
Awww, poop. I gotta run, I'm late! Damn you Inforoo and your distractions!
Post by soundtribe_junkie on Sept 5, 2008 19:02:46 GMT -5
A bit of a mark-up..even if its for three shows. I saw em here for 25 at Neighborhood Theatre standing 2 rows back-exxxxxcellent show-my friends and I had huge grins on our faces on leaving-and they were just standing around shaking peoples hands and signing shit-
Dweezil has gotten his father's excellence-and employs the best band possible without Frank himself
A bit of a mark-up..even if its for three shows. I saw em here for 25 at Neighborhood Theatre standing 2 rows back-exxxxxcellent show-my friends and I had huge grins on our faces on leaving-and they were just standing around shaking peoples hands and signing shit-
Dweezil has gotten his father's excellence-and employs the best band possible without Frank himself
I think you're missing it. Its over $100 per show. I wish it was that for three shows. Then I might go.
Bleh, I can't sleep. 4:04 in the morning. I hate when you're tired, but just can't seem to fall asleep. That's me right now.
Hah, if we were in Bonnaroo land, I'd just be wandering back to my camper around this time. But, when we were there, I didn't even care that I was tired. All I wanted was more music. I can't wait to go back to that sleep pattern.
oh yeah, my random thought btw...whats up with fishing?? why so interesting anyway-?? just curious
I can only assume that this question is directed at me.
I suppose it depends on the type of fishing. I for one prefer the types of fishing that use the least amount of technological assistance, i.e. motorized boats, sonar, fish finders. I primarily surf cast or fish oceans and bays from shore.
I enjoy the challenge of studying weather patterns, feeding patterns, spawning patterns and all the other scientific pieces to the puzzle that will place huge fish within reach of the shore in the Atlantic ocean and where specifically they will be along that huge east coast and WHY! Not to mention matching the finicky tastes of the elusive striped bass by offering a piece of wood metal or plastic that somehow appears to it to be exactly what it's looking for. I enjoy going out in deplorable weather with heavy wind and sideways rain strapped full of gear to walk the beaches and climb the slippery rocks in the dark of night during a new moon in November. Sometimes just facing the elements and not dying is all the fun I need.
My favorite fishing is the calm of sitting in a canoe or my kayak on a placid mountain lake while the sun rises or sets. It would seem so peaceful to many people, but ot me there is way to much going on. I'm constantly considering the wind, the time of year, air temperature, water temperature, possible food sources, subtle changes in the immediate environment, subsurface structure, what lure I'm using, how I'm working it - should I go slower? faster? Eventually the tranquility is shattered by the predatory strike followed by the shocked realization that predator has now become the prey. In a combination of fury and confusion the once predator thrashes violently in a confused and (if I'm lucky) futile attempt to free itself from it unseen captor.
I could go on and on and write a book (which I'm actually in the process of doing), but to put it simply: At no time do I feel a greater connection to nature as when I can use my knowledge and instinct to locate and capture a creature that I can't even see. There's nothing like a catching a fish that you knew was there and knew exactly why it was there without needed to ever lay eyes on it. The exhilaration of the fight is breathtaking, but it pales in comparison to the satisfaction of releasing a unharmed and healthy (hopefully somewhat wiser) specimen to go and produce more creatures of the same ilk.
If you think fishing is relaxing you're doing it wrong!
While we're on the subject....
^^^I was supposed to be there doing that today (that's me) but my truck broke down driving out to Montauk where they are having one of the biggest striper blitzes in decades. I'm completely crestfallen. It would have been a once in a lifetime fishing opportunity.
oh yeah, my random thought btw...whats up with fishing?? why so interesting anyway-?? just curious
Now that is friggin' awesome and that brings two things to mind.
#1
#2 The 18 reasons that fishing is better than sex.
18 - You don't have to hide your Fishing magazines..
17 - It is perfectly acceptable to pay a professional to Fish with you once in a while.
16 - The Ten Commandments don't say anything about Fishing.
15 - If your partner takes pictures or videotapes of you Fishing,you don't have to worry about them showing up on the Internet if you become famous.
14 - Your Fishing partner doesn't get upset about people you fished with long ago
13 - It's perfectly respectable to Fish with a total stranger.
12 - When you see a really good Fisherperson, you don't have feel guilty about imagining the two of you Fishing together.
11 - If your regular Fishing partner isn't available, he/she won't object if you Fish with someone else.
10 - Nobody will ever tell you that you will go blind if you Fish by yourself.
9 - When dealing with a Fishing pro, you never have to wonder if they are really an undercover cop.
8 - You don't have to go to a sleazy shop in a seedy neighborhood to buy Fishing stuff.
7 - You can have a Fishing calendar on your wall at the office, tell Fishing jokes, and invite coworkers to Fish with you without getting sued for harassment.
6 - There are no Fishing-transmitted diseases.
5 - If you want to watch Fishing on television, you don't have to subscribe to the Playboy channel.
4 - Nobody expects you to Fish with the same partner for the rest of your life.
3 - Nobody expects you to give up Fishing if your partner loses interest in it.
2 - You don't have to be a newlywed to plan a vacation primarily to enjoy your favorite activity.
1 - Your Fishing partner will never say, "Not again? We just Fished last week! Is Fishing all you ever think about?"
Dammit I wish I was fishing! I can feel the pull. I hate being stuck in the house.
I suppose it depends on the type of fishing. I for one prefer the types of fishing that use the least amount of technological assistance, i.e. motorized boats, sonar, fish finders. I primarily surf cast or fish oceans and bays from shore.
I enjoy the challenge of studying weather patterns, feeding patterns, spawning patterns and all the other scientific pieces to the puzzle that will place huge fish within reach of the shore in the Atlantic ocean and where specifically they will be along that huge east coast and WHY! Not to mention matching the finicky tastes of the elusive striped bass by offering a piece of would metal or plastic that somehow appears to it to be exactly what it's looking for. I enjoy going out in deplorable weather with heavy wind and sideways rain strapped full of gear to walk the beaches and climb the slippery rocks in the dark of night during a new moon in November. Sometimes just facing the elements and not dying is all the fun I need.
My favorite fishing is the calm of sitting in a canoe or my kayak on a placid mountain lake while the sun rises or sets. It would seem so peaceful to many people, but ot me there is way to much going on. I'm constantly considering the wind, the time of year, air temperature, water temperature, possible food sources, subtle changes in the immediate environment, subsurface structure, what lure I'm using, how I'm working it - should I go slower? faster? Eventually the tranquility is shattered by the predatory strike followed by the shocked realization that predator has now become the prey. In a combination of fury and confusion the once predator thrashes violently in a confused and (if I'm lucky) futile attempt to free itself from it unseen captor.
I could go on and on and write a book (which I'm actually in the process of doing), but to put it simply: At no time do I feel a greater connection to nature as when I can use my knowledge and instinct to locate and capture a creature that I can't even see. There's nothing like a catching a fish that you knew was there and knew exactly why it was there without needed to ever lay eyes on it. The exhilaration of the fight is breathtaking, but it pales in comparison to the satisfaction of releasing a unharmed and healthy (hopefully somewhat wiser) specimen to go and produce more creatures of the same ilk.
If you think fishing is relaxing you're doing it wrong!
I believe you just successfully made me want to go pick up a fishing pole for the first time in quite a few years
Post by soundtribe_junkie on Sept 6, 2008 14:27:44 GMT -5
Great pants in the pic..I guess her fish would bite..ok, I guess that was uncalled for.. Thanks for that fishing answer. My grandfather went out fishing in this steel boat all the time. I guess it gave some peace and excitement after he fought in WWII. They said he wasnt the same when he got back. Also, a friend said he spent all summer trying to outsmart a fish, and I was thinking..OK..what time they eat..what good spots...time of day..bait..What's to outsmart? This filled me in quite a bit. I also see your signature says, "Take a kid fishing" I just wondered how far this thing went. Thanks for your answer. ;D ;D
^^^ oh yeah...on that SECOND fish pic..Did you eat that? Thats a whole lotta fish out there..def. heavier than the first pic, Im guessing
That is actually the last fish that I kept and ate. It was four years ago. That's only about an 18 #er. The bench mark for a trophy of that species is 50# with a 40#er qualifying as a serious trophy (I would have had at least a 30# if my truck didn't conk out on me ). Probably not heavier than the first pic. The first pic is a catfish which has meat that is more dense. Plus that guys bigger than I am which distorts the perceived size of the fish. I only weigh 120#'s in that pic.
I'm not certain I know about the allure of fishing but I do want to go noodling. ;D
Yeah, you and me both brother. Only legal in 4 states, OK, MI, LA and TN.(
Hey guys, I have a good friend that does something similar in North Carolina. He builds these underwater contraptions out of old water heaters and submerges them. The catfish use them as nests. My buddy goes underwater with scuba gear and rousts them out and grabs them by hand. He calls it Hand Grabbing.
The fish he has caught are huge. They make this one seem puny. I'll try to get some pictures.
^ my grandpa used to tell me stories of noodling around st.louis on the mississip. he used to stick his hand under the lip of the shore into their nests and just pull them out when they would bite his hand...it almost seemed too easy...id be freaked out that big basstard would take my hand off!
Post by Fishing Maniac on Sept 8, 2008 8:52:35 GMT -5
^^ HAHA Those species of catfish don't have any "real" teeth. In N.C. they are likely catching Blue Catfish. The one pictured here is a Flathead Catfish (there are over 33,000 species of catfish in the world ).
What your friend calls grabbing is noodling, although the scuba gear is arguably unsportsmanlike. In TN it is referred to as "grabbling". This is even the word used by the TN Wildlife Resource Agency in all literature pertaining to governmental fishing regulations. Constructing these boxes that imitate the hollowed out logs Catfish use for nests is common practice among noodlers. It's an easy way for them to keep track of locations that hold fish. I'm fairly certain that it is illegal in NC. That doesn't mean people don't do it.
I first became aware of noodling because The Flaming Lips do the sound track to a documentary called Okie Noodling. LRH loves Lips and bought the DVD just for the music. I love fishing so he brought it over. Apparently there is a sequel. I'll have to check that out. I also want to check out this DVD.
He catches both blues and flatheads I believe. I know he told me one of them is a real bitch, I forget which. What he is doing is completely legal. He has even taken game wardens out with him.
As for being unsportsmanlike, no. He goes down in murky water where he can't see a thing and gets absolutly thrashed by these fish. He usually gets cut up pretty good even wearing protective gear. There have been torn ligaments and broken fingers doing this as well.
Post by Fishing Maniac on Sept 8, 2008 15:30:03 GMT -5
Wow. Didn't know it was legal in NC.
BTW I was pretty much kidding about the unsporting thing. If you watch Okie noodling though, they have a tournament and only one guy uses the scuba gear. I don't remember if he wins or not, but he didn't use it before the tournament. I think the other noodlers would scoff at the scuba gear. I personally don't care. I think that scuba spear fishing if plenty sportsmanlike.
You guys wanna see some crazy schit check out skishing. So named because the guys float in the ocean and when they hook fish they get taken for a ride. It's like water skiing and with a fish instead of a boat.