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i doubt it would be sewer lines. Most RV camp grounds just have power hook up, and then a water line. No waste line The inconveniences would still be there. no worries ;D unless this is a site for a new bath house where there would be permanent showers and toilets.. which wouldn't be so bad!
"bonnaroo bath house"
either the most happening place on the planet, or completely disgusting.
I wouldn't doubt power AND rerstrooms, for maybe the smaller things they are wanting to do there. I know during one of the pre-roo 08 meetings with the sherriffs dept and Superfly, those are 2 things they said they wanted to do.
IMHO "hook-ups" and sewer lines and such would be just another step towards Bonnaroo's demise. Whats next--box seats? The fact that everyone is bonding, overcoming the inconveniences , shunning the luxuries of the real world, and taking pride in that, is what makes Bonnaroo so special.
Haha... that's hilarious that something you can get at a campground would be considered some sort of ridiculous luxury. What's next - SOAP?
Depending on power hook ups rather than fuel-burning generators would be much better for greening. What if they could use wind power to help power? What a marvelous coup that would be...
If you want to shun the luxuries of the real world you wouldn't go to even the first Bonnaroo. And since live music is often considered a luxury, you might just want to have Amishroo by yourself.
I'm all for community, but if even the first Roo allowed RV's, saying you'd rather them keep burning gasoline or diesel on site is the excessive option, IMHO.
Post by Steel_City_X on Jul 26, 2008 10:14:15 GMT -5
Anyone snapped any pictures of the work on the site? I still am intrigued by the placement of some underground utilities on the site. Anyone seen the VIP area to know if there is also work going on there?
I rooted through some satellite photos and found an interesting one from 6/6/2007 - it shows the set up on the property. Too bad I can't yet track any from 2008.
In my continued thinking, water and power are needed for RV's. Dump stations can be used for collection of waste. Hard to imagine some septic system being constructed, given the massive volumes generated, but it is possible.
I could also see improving the facilities for vendors, and the artist buses. Power across the facility is critically needed. The cost of renting and running generators is too high to avoid this.
Post by Steel_City_X on Nov 15, 2008 21:03:15 GMT -5
Anyone seen any other changes to the site?
I would love to see new Google Earth imagery for the site to see any changes.
I think running power for security lighting would be beneficial for any event at the park.
I could also see running waste pipes from locations of the portable restrooms. Fewer pick ups by the "honey bees". Running power through the site would benefit stage power.
I was comfortable last year - I bought my own power, and am planning again this coming year. I'll simplify some this year, but will focus on comfort in my tent.
I know people would really love plumbing and a water supply at Roo. Let me give you a little math here (I think I've done this before):
I used to work for Ohio EPA in the Division of Surface Water. Basically dealing with different elements of wastewater treatment. I'm sure TN's regulations are a little different, but I'll just use Ohio reg's for an example here.
For sewage treatment, you are required to have the ability to treat 100 gals/day/person at the maximum capacity of any given day. So assuming 100,000 people at Roo - attendees, staff, artists, blah blah blah. That means they would have to have a wastewater treatment plant with a 10,000,000 gal capacity, and it has to be run year round. That's the size of a decent size city's wastewater treatment, just for one event.
Add running water, which would need to be installed with this. That means a water treatment plant similar in size to the wastewater treatment plant.
As for having wastewater pumped from toilets to basically a holding cell where it is all pumped at once. In Ohio, at lease, that is not allowed unless you can prove that permanent sewer service is going to be available in the near future. That may be different in TN. I don't know.
It's not going to happen. Sorry guys. We're going to have to deal with port-o-potties and sulfur water.
Permanent power? Now that's something we can hope for.
When they purchased the site they stated that they wanted to improve it every year. One big one was drainage and land scaping to change slope of the land for water drain and viewing. They also said they would like to build better road systems. All of these could be connected and take a lot of digging.
Post by Steel_City_X on Nov 16, 2008 15:28:00 GMT -5
Clarity and others,
I was not thinking about sewage treatment, but rather improving the collection, or they may have been installing a septic system for a very small portion of the property, perhaps VIP area and backstage areas. That would allow them to solve some of the issues with the bathrooms in the VIP area that flooded.
I could also see something when the collection is centralized from various "improved" restrooms, and water facilities. Having piping from bathroom locations that flows to a lower collection area would allow the grounds to have fewer heavy trucks.
The porta-potties for the masses will probably remain. You can't accommodate that much waste in a cost effective manner other than the porta-potties, but you can certainly improve the backstage, administrative, hospitality, practice areas for a few thousand. Those improvements would benefit a greater seasonal use of the "Great Stage".
Pictures worth a thousand words. And since I am 1400+ miles away, no chance of seeing the farm until next year. Anyone have a chance to see the property and any signs of improvements, we could analyze pictures and try to figure out what they have done.
Power hookups would make trying to sleep at night a whole lot easier. They had power at 10KLF and the nights were much more enjoyable. Oh and by the way, hello to all. I've been away for awhile. ;D
IMHO "hook-ups" and sewer lines and such would be just another step towards Bonnaroo's demise. Whats next--box seats? The fact that everyone is bonding, overcoming the inconveniences , shunning the luxuries of the real world, and taking pride in that, is what makes Bonnaroo so special.
Having a thousand idling RV's pumping carbon monoxide into the air seems to be counter productive to what a green minded festival would want, no? I for one invite electrical hookups at least. sewer hooksup are not needed as badly as cutting down all the air pollution. But you probably dont like the suburbanites in their comfy air conditioned RV's anyway? I'll toast my frozen margarita to you after I take a poop and shower. Cheers
The biggest thing mentioned is that the whole site will be wired for electricity this year. I do not know if this will mean electrical hookups for RV's however this will mean that all the vendors, stages, and administrative areas will no longer need to be run from generators.
The article also mentions the installation of permanent roads and walking paths and eventualy real running water bathrooms and showers.
Wow - that was a good article - but the three comments that were posted on the article when I read it sure don't make it sound like residents of Coffee County want Bonnaroo fans around
but the three comments that were posted on the article when I read it sure don't make it sound like residents of Coffee County want Bonnaroo fans around
Oh but they do. I think they looked real hard to find the 3 folks that don't. Every year I drive to Manchester for a pre roo run. It is only 45 minutes from my house. I shop, eat, and hang with the locals and chat them up about Bonnaroo. I was surprised by how happy they all were that it was coming. And you know you can trust to get the skinny from the local meat & three waitress. (Wonderful biscuits) The only one I found not happy was a Walmart cashier. That is understandable.