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This may be my last post. DBMFANINTN is threatening via the mail system to ban me if I don't remove my sig about him censoring me. Which he did. And he has edited my account information twice already. So yeah. People don't like my describing MYSELF as a cracker, fine, whatever. I can deal. But strong arm tactics over it? I've taken screenshots. Is this how moderators are supposed to act?
No argument to this post!
If you plan on removing yourself, all the better!
Dont the door hit you in a......
You need to be real careful who spew your racist crap around. As the white half of a mixed marriage, I nor my wife take too kindly to any racism. And BTW: You didnt just call yourself those names, you were using them in context....We arent that stupid around here!
This may be my last post. DBMFANINTN is threatening via the mail system to ban me if I don't remove my sig about him censoring me. Which he did. And he has edited my account information twice already. So yeah. People don't like my describing MYSELF as a cracker, fine, whatever. I can deal. But strong arm tactics over it? I've taken screenshots. Is this how moderators are supposed to act?
No argument to this post!
If you plan on removing yourself, all the better!
Dont the door hit you in a......
You need to be real careful who spew your racist crap around. As the white half of a mixed marriage, I nor my wife take too kindly to any racism. And BTW: You didnt just call yourself those names, you were using them in context....We arent that stupid around here!
You're providing plenty of proof to the contrary.
Edit: i'm cutting out of this, I find arguing with someone apparently unwilling to comprehend basic sentences to be less than productive. Nothing I said was racist, he's grasping at straws. His dragging himself (and his wife) into the conversation, to show off that he has some special reason to be offended, is irrelevant and I feel he's just trying to ego trip with his moderator access.
I think some of you are reading way too much into the racial percentages at 'Roo. It's a camping festival in the south. 99% of the people that go camping in the south are crackers. 99% of the people at any jam show are crackers. Of course roo is going to fall along those lines. I haven't witnessed any discrimination, though, most people are just there to have a good time.
Would you like to explain how this statement is calling "only yourself" a name?
You just called me and every other bonnaroo attendee (save 0.1%) that!
Its real convienient to "forget" you typed something when your on the defense! But you clearly did not limit the term to yourself.
One thing about being human beings is that we are all unique. Just because racist comments do not offend you, doesnt mean that others arent as well. Your coments in another thread about someone being disappointed, that they were looking for a reason. Come on man, that is YOUR opinion! It doesnt fit for every one.
I am offended by comments like that because I see the pain that they inflict on people. I feel the pain they inflict on me. I wasnt "dragging" my wife into it, I mentioned that because it is relevant to the discussion. Racism is somethign that WE deal with in OUR world everyday. Maybe you dont, I dont know, but we do, and we dont like it.
If you want to call it abusing my Mod power by trying to eliminate something that, so far, everyone who has chimed in has been against, then call it abuse. I dont see anyone else b!tchin about it.
Now, I am done withis discussion! The use of the racist term in your sig is against the rules of this board. If you do not remove it, you will be subject to banning. (There it is, for everyone to see!)
Last Edit: May 2, 2007 18:16:34 GMT -5 by Deleted - Back to Top
damnit. an argument and i missed it. im slipping. spring has made me lose focus. ;D
but really words are words. and cracker is a pretty mild word at that. i dont understand all the sensitivity over words in our society. f**k that nuts. oh wait we are sensitive about it here too. nuts will have to do. good thing there is no swearing at roo so much drama in the world over words. it seems so silly. people can call me whatever they like. dosent matter 1 bit. but to each their own
Last Edit: May 2, 2007 18:23:27 GMT -5 by Dude - Back to Top
lol.... awesome. llamas rock! kinda off topic but last year when we left gory at the quarry we went to a gas station and as we were pulling in we were all amazed to see a llama in a minivan. we all looked at each other to see if we all saw it or our partying was still working. we talked to them and they said she liked to ride in the car. made sense to me. once again it was a perfect picture oppurtunity but i always have my camera in six ziplocs in the bottom of a water proof container in the car so it wont get ruined, lost, or stolen. kinda defeats the purpose of having a nice camera. anyhow it was cool was my point ;D
damnit. an argument and i missed it. im slipping. spring has made me lose focus. ;D
but really words are words. and cracker is a pretty mild word at that. i dont understand all the sensitivity over words in our society. f**k that nuts. oh wait we are sensitive about it here too. nuts will have to do. good thing there is no swearing at roo so much drama in the world over words. it seems so silly. people can call me whatever they like. dosent matter 1 bit. but to each their own
I should know better but I have to add my two cents. I don't really feel "cracker" is all that offensive. It is or was commonly used to describe rural southerners but not in a demeaning way. Atlanta's minor league team before they got the Braves was called the Crackers. When I lived in Tampa we had a nearby rustic town recreation called Cracker Village. And there is a type of house in Florida called the Cracker cottage.
Having said that, I think plaguedog's response was a little snotty and he should probably sit in the corner for the rest of class.
i actually just saw something that talked about the word cracker. i cant remember what it was though. but cracker actually comes from way back in the day when they had to crack corn by hand. the people who did that job were called crackers. i dont really see it as a racial term. althgouh i know thats how its intended nowadays. but political correctness is outta control. call me a cracker. call me a honkey. call me whatever ya want. whats the big damn deal??? why do other peoples opinions carry so much weight and upset so many people? its only words people!!!
Speaking of "honkey", this is my bear Honkey. I got him for my 16th birthday and I've slept with him every night since. That's more than I can say for any honkey cracker I ever dated.
EDIT: Yes, Honkey went to Roo with me in '05 & '06 and he will be there in '07.
EDIT #2: I have not read this thread because I know it's heated, so please don't smite me. I just wanted to show you guys my bear.
Right Chandler, say that to an African American, then explain to them it's "just a word" Words have meanings and sometimes the meanings change and evolve over time into words that can and do cause a lot of pain and hurt. So, your right, it is just a word.....a word with a history of pain. Do you still use it?
it is 'just a word'....but words have meanings, definitions, connotations that are associated with them, and those can be offensive and/or derogatory.... we're all human beings and we should respect each other, thats what its all about, period, end.....
edit: this was in response to chandler...not you brock...
"White collar conservative flashin down the street, pointing that plastic finger at me, they all assume my kind will drop and die, but I'm gonna wave my freak flag high." Jimi Hendrix
What about the N word dude? It's just a word also, is it ok to use? Just trying to see where your coming from, not starting any crap here.
its just a word too. i think its silly we need to call it the 'n word' but i will for the sake of not causing problems. but i dont mind if people call me that. it dosent hurt me. in fact it dosent hurt anyone. i personally dont use the word because i see no need to use it but i dont get my panties all in a bunch if 50 cent, some white kid in the burbs, some redneck in the boonies, or don imus uses it to describe me or anyone else. its fine by me if they want to advertise their ignorance. makes it easier for me to identify and avoid morons. i will avoid people who use their words to create anger and negativity but in the end words dont mean a damn thing. an im not sure who is more at fault. the person using the "bad words" or the people that sit their and argue with someone who is advertising the fact they are a moron. just forget it and move on with your day. our society is so focused on silliness that nearly every important issue is ignored.
Right Chandler, say that to an African American, then explain to them it's "just a word" Words have meanings and sometimes the meanings change and evolve over time into words that can and do cause a lot of pain and hurt. So, your right, it is just a word.....a word with a history of pain. Do you still use it?
Lol, once you get down to it, they're all just words. Of course I still use it. Never really in a hateful way though.
I go to an HBCU. I have many African American friends. They use it. I use it around them. Its never been a big deal....or any kind of a deal at all, really.
I figured people around here would be a bit more chill. Not so uptight about things that thoroughly don't matter.
Right Chandler, say that to an African American, then explain to them it's "just a word" Words have meanings and sometimes the meanings change and evolve over time into words that can and do cause a lot of pain and hurt. So, your right, it is just a word.....a word with a history of pain. Do you still use it?
Lol, once you get down to it, they're all just words. Of course I still use it. Never really in a hateful way though.
I go to an HBCU. I have many African American friends. They use it. I use it around them. Its never been a big deal....or any kind of a deal at all, really.
I figured people around here would be a bit more chill. Not so uptight about things that thoroughly don't matter.
well obviously someone was offended by it, and that makes it matter.... and do you go around saying bitch, whore or slut? those are just words too right?
"White collar conservative flashin down the street, pointing that plastic finger at me, they all assume my kind will drop and die, but I'm gonna wave my freak flag high." Jimi Hendrix
well then the person using those words is offensive and derogatory. id avoid them. thats not the type of people i search out to hang with. or to have a discussion about words with. they are everywhere. you can complain about them all ya want. you can argue with them. you can attempt to educate them. but in the end they will always be there. it easier just to avoid them. and its kinda like in elementarty school. if you quit reacting to the use of the words the use of them will stop. seriously there are so many real issues in the world i cant believe our whole society is so wrapped up in what amounts to name calling. gimme a break. and getting upset over name calling is even more ignorant then the name calling itself in my opinion.
Last Edit: May 2, 2007 23:24:11 GMT -5 by Dude - Back to Top
Lol, once you get down to it, they're all just words. Of course I still use it. Never really in a hateful way though.
I go to an HBCU. I have many African American friends. They use it. I use it around them. Its never been a big deal....or any kind of a deal at all, really.
I figured people around here would be a bit more chill. Not so uptight about things that thoroughly don't matter.
well obviously someone was offended by it, and that makes it matter.
The point is its absolutely RETARDED to be hurt by a WORD. Nomatter what word that is, its only a word. How can "Cracker" or "Nigger" or "Beaner" or "Chink" or "Dothead" or "Camel Jockey" or "Wop" or whatever be genuinely hurtful? Seriously. Lighten Up. Have fun. Chill out. Don't take things so damn seriously, everyone.
The reason that there IS racism in the world is because we accept it. We accept it by letting stuff like that effect us. Stuff like "racial slurs" are a joke. Thats all they've ever been. Just like the thought of racism. Don't get me wrong, there undoubtedly is racism in the world, but the concept of racism itself is a joke. If people just lightened up a little and didnt get offended by every little thing, then maybe we, as a society could get past it. But until we stop accepting shit like that, its still going to be. We just feed it by accepting that stupid shit like WORDS are offensive.
does it really bother you if rappers use bitch, ho, or slut?? i guess i can kinda understand being upset if someone directly calls you something. it still makes no sense because who gives a shit if someone calls you soemthing. but i can see how it might upset some. but it even sillier to get upset about soemone generalizing everyone. maybe its rappers with bitch, hoe, and of course the n word or maybe its an inforooer with cracker. i dont see how its hurting anyone. and thats because it isnt.
sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. (words to live by)
While opinions are always respected here, not everyone thinks the same way you guys do. I get what your saying. BUT, those "words" will not be tolerated here.
does it really bother you if rappers use bitch, ho, or slut?? i guess i can kinda understand being upset if someone directly calls you something. it still makes no sense because who gives a nuts if someone calls you soemthing. but i can see how it might upset some. but it even sillier to get upset about soemone generalizing everyone. maybe its rappers with bitch, hoe, and of course the n word or maybe its an inforooer with cracker. i dont see how its hurting anyone. and thats because it isnt.
sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. (words to live by)
The thing that bothers me about rap lyrics is what a lot of them are advocating... stealing, hitting your wife, etc. Then you see some 12 year old kid singing along with his walkman and thinking that its how the world really is/should be.. True, many rappers don't actually do those things, but many of the people who listen to them don't know that.