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Post by bojangles22 on Mar 12, 2007 18:00:53 GMT -5
That commercial IS bad. I would be all like... "get that garbage away from my face!! what is your major malfunction?? how dare you just asume anyone wants to hear that sad noise" and then i'd smack his perpatratin' hand down! hehehe
I know it's not the biggest in the world. A fest in Germany is I think. What's bigger in the US and how is it bigger? I know that some fests sell an amount of three day passes and amounts of daily passes. Are they bigger because of "more people" go?
Post by LucyRoo & AdamToo on Mar 13, 2007 11:38:00 GMT -5
I hope I wasn't misunderstood in my first post...... when I said 'mainstream' about Tool, Police, White Sripes, Modest Mouse, Radiohead all I meant was popular/ successful/ well-known. (semantics) p.s. 92 days till BONNAROO!!
Post by LucyRoo & AdamToo on Mar 13, 2007 11:43:01 GMT -5
marshalldylan1 said:
lucyroo said:
I don't think the addition of mainstream bands like Tool, The Police, Modest Mouse, Radiohead, etc... will have a negative effect on Bonnaroo at all. I think the diversity of the music / people attending is one of the draws to Roo, for me at least. One of the reasons bands like this are so popular is their amazing talent to put out awesome music and put on a hell of a show.
For example, I am a huge fan of a lot of the classic Roo bands (galactic, SCI, etc...), but I'm also a big fan of Tool. I don't even really like 'metal' music, but Tool is amazing. I don't much care for The Police, but that may be because I'm a bit young for them. Having acts like Tool and The Police give people like me, and perhaps the older crowd in regards to The Police (not saying only older folks enjoy The Police, but you know what I mean), a much needed treat. I'm excited to have the opportunity to see Tool at the same festival with T-Bone Burnett, Galactic, SCI, and many others. For me it will be a dream come true, as I'm sure it will be for many others.
I think the organizers of Bonnaroo have their fingers squarely on the pulse of those that truly enjoy music from all genres. Bands like Tool, The Police, Radiohead, Modest Mouse, The White Stripes may be 'mainstream', but that doesn't automatically take something away from them. The Bonnaroo organizers have a knack for picking the best 'underground' talent along with the most respected and talented 'mainstream' talent. I don't think you could ask for a better combination.
Post by easymorningrebel on Mar 13, 2007 22:44:28 GMT -5
oopsikillednana said:
I don't think whether or not you consider a band mainstream should affect your judgement of their music. Music is music...
when you consider the corporate input it usually takes to be "mainstream" it produces a certain type of material that's not aimed at creating music but a popular product
example: Britany Spears, etc.
the way I see it is just a general rule of thumb which everyone acknowledges at least once in a while...the more people there are that like something, the more chance there is that it sucks. so mainstream means less quality, usually. when a previously underground band or performer breaks thru to the mainstream without changing their personal style it's called crossing over, when someone blatently panders to a large audience and changes his or her style it's called selling out. these terms are so arbitrary though because people assign them in different ways according to personal views and opinions
"Mainsteam" doesnt really have anything to do with the means that it got there, it just has to do with the fact that its there. Basically, I see "mainstream" as bands/artists/anything that is readily available and accepted by the masses.
Given that, the following bands on Bonnaroo this year, I would consider DEFINITELY mainstream:
The Police, Tool, Widespread Panic, The White Stripes, The Flaming Lips, Ben Harper, Wilco, SCI, Franz Ferdinand, Damien Rice, Ziggy Marley, The Roots, Kings of Leon, The Decemberists, Wolfmother, DJ Shadow, Fountains of Wayne, Ralph Stanley, Dierks Bentley, RX Bandits....maybe a couple of others are on the boarderline too.
Theres nothing wrong with being mainstream though. The music is still music....and thats what its about. How good the music is, not how popular an artist is.
Theres nothing wrong with being mainstream though. The music is still music....and thats what its about. How good the music is, not how popular an artist is.
well i agree for the most part. but in a festival setting its also a determining factor in the people that attend. its not just the music. its the vibe of the scene that is also affected. and it just seems like a fact of life that the more mainstream/popular a band is directly related to the amount of asshats that will be drawn to their show. i dont know whether this lineup will cause problems or not. its definitely attempting to draw a new crowd to the festival scene. in the end i think we will all live and have wonderful stories to tell.
I'm really happy to see so many diverse bands. I don't thnk that I have seen anyone on the lineup that I don't want to see, but Ween is my number one priority. I am alo really happy to see Tool in the lineup, as well as many other bands(including the ones I have never heard of but want to check out) The thing I'm probably most excited about is hearing about what a good vibe there is at roo. There are so many nutcakes in this world I really never let my guard down. It will be nice to be able to that.
So again, what is mainstream? A band like Tool gets next to no airplay, and I don't think they've had a video on MTV since the mid-90's (even then you could argue that they really did embrace the idea of music video as an art form, a visual expression of the music, rather than an empty product of consumerism). They sell loads of records to a dedicated fanbase, and sell out all over the country, without the aid of major marketing, video play, or commercial radio time. That makes them mainstream how?
Post by MonkeyClaw on Mar 22, 2007 20:57:00 GMT -5
I really believe that "mainstream" is like many things and is all in the eye of the beholder. Now there is that other tier of music such as your brittney spears, etc that is definately mainstream in the traditional sense, but other than that, I tend to agree with what was said, in the end, music is music and different people enjoy different flavors of tunes. I think for a lot of people, mainstream is just a term to differenciate their taste in music from another persons.
So my point is really that I don't think Bonnaroo will ever dwell into the true mainstream, but I think they will diversify into other spheres of music. But in the end, the spirit will always remain, we are all there for a dose of musical energy and to spend time with each other and thats truly whats important.
I have always believed there was only one rule for a band playing Bonnaroo: You must play good live. If you can't do it on stage, in a field, without pre-recorded back-up, you don't belong at Bonnaroo. That being said I trust the boys at AC/SF as they are responsible for exposing me to some of most fantastic live musicians over the last five years. Just because someone has labeled a band "mainstream" doesn't mean that band can't do it live.
Post by hibouxdufromage on Mar 23, 2007 5:01:21 GMT -5
You know what would really suck? If Bonnaroo stayed the same every year, booked the same bands every time, and never changed anything. That being said, I wish they'd bring back the gospel bands on sunday morning.
You know what would really suck? If Bonnaroo stayed the same every year, booked the same bands every time, and never changed anything. That being said, I wish they'd bring back the gospel bands on sunday morning.
WORD!!!!!!! The trip I took under the tree behind the gospel tent was just the thing after spending all night working in a medical tent in 2002. It appears the Sunday gospel has been replaced by a Sunday country tent. I am NO country music fan, but Shooter Jennings was awesome last year. Looking forward to checkin' out T-Bone Burnett this year.
well i dont know if its a fest in the same way as roo with camping and all. but i know there is a country music fest thats huge. its over 100,000.
and i was using bigger as meaning more people. not of bigger importance or anything.
You are speaking of what was once called FanFair in Nashville. It's called something else now, but it has well over 100,000 people every year. It's very different from Roo because it is more a "meet & greet" with concerts too. No camping either.
Post by hibouxdufromage on Mar 23, 2007 18:52:46 GMT -5
It's still called FanFair, but it also called CMA Music Festival. It's always in the Riverfront Park/Titans Stadium area, and usually about the same time as Roo.
I don't think whether or not you consider a band mainstream should affect your judgement of their music. Music is music...
when you consider the corporate input it usually takes to be "mainstream" it produces a certain type of material that's not aimed at creating music but a popular product
example: Britany Spears, etc.
the way I see it is just a general rule of thumb which everyone acknowledges at least once in a while...the more people there are that like something, the more chance there is that it sucks. so mainstream means less quality, usually. when a previously underground band or performer breaks thru to the mainstream without changing their personal style it's called crossing over, when someone blatently panders to a large audience and changes his or her style it's called selling out. these terms are so arbitrary though because people assign them in different ways according to personal views and opinions
Well put,easymorning I cannot call bands like the Who, Stones, Beatles, Police, Allmans,Black Sabbath, etc etc mainstream. They got big because they were good, they didnt have MTV/TRL and radio stations that play their song up to ten times a day (ex.Nickelback,James Blunt,Hinder) to make them popular to every girl and boy that "follows the crowd".Some band from early mid 90s could be called mainstream(nirvana pearl jam STP,by the amount of people that listen to them, also when MTV was still into MUSIC)but definately better that the crap that is mainstream music that you hear on top 40 radio stations today Mainstream to me is Limp Biscuit Nickelback Brittney Spears Justin Timberlake James Blunt Daughtry Kelly Clarkson
To my next point, in 30 years, how many people are gonna be listening to this crap.
I wear preppy looking clothes, actively play golf on a regular basis, like boating, but I also listen to almost every group on the Bonnaroo lineup. I might look "mainstream" from a distance, but I'm pretty far off from that.
The direction Bonnaroo is heading in is great. Like a poster up above said "They are booking one classic with one group who pushes the boundaries of music." That statement couldn't be any more right. Just because band "A" is small and isn't well known (making them "non-mainstream") doesn't mean they could have 1/20th of Radiohead's overall talent. Bands like The Police, Tool, Radiohead, Tom Petty are considered mainstream because they are just THAT good.
If you are really not all for the main stream acts this year you should at least come out and see one song performed. Take The Police for example. As mentioned above they are an ICON of rock. I personally have never seen The Police perform live because of my age, but you can be sure I'm going to be at their location when Roxanne is playing! There is no point in casting off music due to ones own insecurities of their persona in relations to the "mainstream"
Bonnaroo is actually pretty small compared to alot of other gatherings in the U.S. It may be one of the largest camping festivals though but there's plenty of other celebrations that are much much larger. College football for example. Some of those stadiums such as UT's, Michigan's, Comlumbus', and Penn States can all hold about 107,000 people. There is NASCAR too, which alot of the times those people do camp out in the parking lot. NASCAR gatherings can sometimes reach capacities of 160,000. There's also the Kentucky Derby which can reach a capacity of 140,000. These are all significantly bigger than Bonnaroo. So as far as capacity goes, comparatively speaking, Bonnaroo is one of the smaller gatherings.
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I wear preppy looking clothes, actively play golf on a regular basis, like boating, but I also listen to almost every group on the Bonnaroo lineup. I might look "mainstream" from a distance, but I'm pretty far off from that.
The direction Bonnaroo is heading in is great. Like a poster up above said "They are booking one classic with one group who pushes the boundaries of music." That statement couldn't be any more right. Just because band "A" is small and isn't well known (making them "non-mainstream") doesn't mean they could have 1/20th of Radiohead's overall talent. Bands like The Police, Tool, Radiohead, Tom Petty are considered mainstream because they are just THAT good.
If you are really not all for the main stream acts this year you should at least come out and see one song performed. Take The Police for example. As mentioned above they are an ICON of rock. I personally have never seen The Police perform live because of my age, but you can be sure I'm going to be at their location when Roxanne is playing! There is no point in casting off music due to ones own insecurities of their persona in relations to the "mainstream"
Couldn't have said it better myself. Karma to you sir...