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I think getting rid of guns would only result in the "bad guys" having guns. So that's not really practical. I understand the intent, but I think that if all the law abiding citizens gave up their handguns and automatic weapons, then the only people that would continue to have such weapons would be the non law abiding citizens. I do think that we should close the gun show loophole as well as ban automatic weapons, however.
I always find it funny when people say they own guns to "protect themselves from the gov't." I mean, the gov't has tanks and fighter jets and sorts of other shit. I don't see how any militia would be able to fight anything like that.
I have guns for Zombies. It's about the only thing that will take them out safely from a distance.
I stick with my crossbow when I can you can reuse the ammo.
Crossbows are much more effective for the zombie apocalypse.
In the event of the zombie apocalypse, I would try to find a ton of mason jars, and make some Molotov cocktail, with gasoline, rubber cement, and 5 triple seven pellets.
It may not kill them, but it would be amusing to watch. Though I imagine the smell would be god awful.
I keep driving past them filming that show. It's like 2 blocks from my school.
I used to work on the corner of Marietta and Forsyth. I wasn't around when they were filming, but it's still really strange to watch the city scenes because most of them take place right there.
Ok - I have a current issue - I try to avoid this thread but damn - my health insurance just went up by $50 a month, I now have to have a prescription for Nyquil, Tylenol or anything else OTC that i could previously use my Flexible Spending Account to cover and then it gets announced yesterday that Obama is proposing a 2 year Federal pay freeze.
Now this only means that i would not get my COLA in January of each year AND I know a lot of it is coming from tons of reports that the Federal workers salaries are so much great than the private sector (which is crap BTW - I do tons more working for the Feds than I ever did in the private sector and am being paid $10,000 a year less than i could get in the private sector - I took the job with the gov't for the security of knowing I would get a paycheck every two weeks without fail)
But come on people - the cost of living is rising - the COLA doesn't even keep up with the actual cost of living - it just cushions the blow a little bit.
^Well lets be fair it is not like there have been a lot of raises for people in the private sector for the past 2 years either, and not many of us are expecting new ones anytime soon.
^Well lets be fair it is not like there have been a lot of raises for people in the private sector for the past 2 years either, and not many of us are expecting new ones anytime soon.
I haven't had a raise in 3 years, but I've had a couple reverse raises if those count. They come in real handy as all my expenses go up
Well the insurance premium hike is to be expected. And its only gonna get worse. Sure, more people get to have health insurance, but the people paying for it will have to pay more to support those who cant afford it. Yay socialism.
BTW, Im hoping for a 10% raise at a minimum in the next 3 months, only because I was seriously low-balled in the job offer I received back in may. I won't complain though, as this job, even with less hours, and less $$$ then I was asking for was a 15% increase in pay (per year) over my old job, plus, I get more paid time off, I have real health insurance (which my employer pays 85% of, 60% of family coverage), dental insurance for $10 dollars a month, vision insurance for 9 dollars a month, life insurance and long term disability insurance at no cost to me, cancer insurance, and my employer makes a guaranteed 6% investment in my 403b each year, regardless what I contribute.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Nov 30, 2010 10:52:27 GMT -5
Here's what I don't get about Obama's pay freeze plan. It's a Republican idea, and the only people who seem to be applauding it are Republican leaders like Boehner and Cantor. Obama is reportedly doing this to pre-empt the Republican Congress. Why is Obama pushing Republican policy? Why not just let the Republicans do that?
Private insurance companies are socialist? Sheesh.
I said yay socialism, not because the private insurance companies are socialist, but because the government passed legislation that required private insurance companies to change their policies. The intended result of this legislation was for more people to be insured, and the obvious side effect is the inflated price of insurance premiums for those who can afford to pay for insurance.
Here's what I don't get about Obama's pay freeze plan. It's a Republican idea, and the only people who seem to be applauding it are Republican leaders like Boehner and Cantor. Obama is reportedly doing this to pre-empt the Republican Congress. Why is Obama pushing Republican policy? Why not just let the Republicans do that?
Maybe because he thought it was a good idea? Or maybe he is making strides for some bipartisan support next election day, as without it; he, like 14 million Americans currently, will be without a job.
Consider this, a friend of mine, who probably couldn't find a box of nails in a hardware store, joined the navy 18 months ago. He had zero experience with computers, other than surfing the internet, playing games, and using word / excel, but he went into some computer program in the navy. 1 year later, he makes more than I do, despite still not knowing dick-shit about computers. perfect example of a budget cut that needs to happen.
I said yay socialism, not because the private insurance companies are socialist, but because the government passed legislation that required private insurance companies to change their policies.
Single-payer could be described as socialist, as could the VA, Medicare, and Medicaid. You are describing government regulation of a capitalist enterprise, not socialism.
The term "socialism" gets tossed out way too often these days. People just regurgitate buzzwords to sound knowledgeable. Anyone who has insurance and thinks they haven't been paying for the uninsured all these years is clueless.
Obama has been too accepting of Republican ideas in hopes that they will work with him in other areas. Everyone knows that ain't gonna happen. He'll probably cave on the Bush tax cuts as well, as if 30 years of Reaganomics hasn't proven to be total BS.
Single-payer could be described as socialist, as could the VA, Medicare, and Medicaid.
Expand on this please.
Sure. Very broadly speaking socialism is about common public ownership and management. Those medical coverage programs are owned and run by the gubmint. I'm not saying that they "are" socialist, just that they could be described that way, much more accurately so than regulation of capitalist private insurance companies.
Sure. Very broadly speaking socialism is about common public ownership and management. Those medical coverage programs are owned and run by the gubmint. I'm not saying that they "are" socialist, just that they could be described that way, much more accurately so than regulation of capitalist private insurance companies.
I am pretty sure less than 5% of people who use the word socialism these days know what it means.
The term "socialism" gets tossed out way too often these days. People just regurgitate buzzwords to sound knowledgeable. Anyone who has insurance and thinks they haven't been paying for the uninsured all these years is clueless..
My insurance premiums do not now, nor have they ever went to paying for healthcare for the uninsured. However, the majority of healthcare providers charge more than necessary for services rendered and inturn get to bill the insurance companies more, which allows them to turn a profit, even while not collecting debt owed by the uninsured who were treated. Also, I define socialism as the process of providing (or attempting to provide) the same benefits and way of life to everyone. I define capitalism as encouraging and rewarding hard work and innovation in a free market. The federal government requiring an insurance company to change its effective policies, so that it must cover people who it previously wouldn't have to cover... That sounds ALOT like a socialist agenda there, NOT THE ACT, but the desired outcome.
Obama has been too accepting of Republican ideas in hopes that they will work with him in other areas. Everyone knows that ain't gonna happen. He'll probably cave on the Bush tax cuts as well, as if 30 years of Reaganomics hasn't proven to be total BS.
I completely agree with you on Reaganomics. It was a band aid on a broken leg when he implemented it, and it has progressively gotten worse. Now, the American government is depending on the creation of money out of thin air, which is just debasing the value of the currency. And the natural, predictable consequence is the dissolution of the middle class.
As much as I dislike obama, I am truly grateful that when got him instead of her:
I disagree with your definitions. Socialism is using a common pool to pay for social services we all use, like fire departments for instance. Capitilism is letting private buisnesses provide services for a fee, like that one fire dept in tn that let the house burn. You are entitled to define them however you like, but I will stick with the dictionary.
I disagree with your definitions. Socialism is using a common pool to pay for social services we all use, like fire departments for instance. Capitilism is letting private buisnesses provide services for a fee, like that one fire dept in tn that let the house burn. You are entitled to define them however you like, but I will stick with the dictionary.
First, that house was allowed to burn because it was outside of the fire departments alloted jurisdiction. My parents are in the same boat. They live in an unincorporated portion of Brighton TN, so they have to pay dues to the fire department to insure they will come in the event of an emergency. Nothing wrong with this. Those people were just ignorant and thought they could get away without paying.
Your definition of socialism is the way america uses socialism now. The purist form of capitalism socialism (OOPS, can you tell I was in a hurry?) in america is social security. Those currently making money (and paying taxes) foot the bill, and those who are retired, or those who are unable to work reap the benefits. With a strong economy, and a eager work force, social security would work like a revolving door, but america has neither of those. But the essence of socialism here is the government attempting to provide equality.
Merriam-Webster defines Socialism as: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
Goods, in this definition can also be expanded to mean services.
However, the majority of healthcare providers charge more than necessary for services rendered and inturn get to bill the insurance companies more, which allows them to turn a profit, even while not collecting debt owed by the uninsured who were treated.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You've always been paying for the uninsured. It doesn't matter who the money goes to, the fact is that we all pay for the uninsured. Therefore if everyone has insurance, everyone pays for themselves.
Incorrect, plenty of people have insurance (such as Tenn Care), which they do not pay premiums on, and don't even have a copay when they do use it. This is where the Medicare / Medicaid portion of tax that is deducted from your check (currently 6.2% of your pay) is spent. So, in a sense, you will always be paying for the poor and jobless to have insurance, through the medicare tax.
BTW, I work for a non-profit mental heath center, and one portion of my job, whether I like it or not, is to verify eligibility of our patients with their insurance companies. I also verify copays, deductibles, apply for referrals, prior authorizations, etc. I also help bill the insurance companies for services rendered, and build reports that give insight to the administration as to where our influx of money is coming from. As you would imagine, I know a WHOLE lot more about the inner-workings of insurance companies and health care than your average joe.
AWATD, nice sarcasm, but to think that Obamacare won't drive up premium prices well beyond the common increase for inflation is foolish and ignorant.