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Hey guys, I thought this would provoke some good discussion. I just found this post on PT, so I copied and pasted verbatim (you guys will especially appreciate Trey's closing remark):
"Was rereading the Guitar World interview from October 2004. Here were Trey's thoughts on Phish and bands in general getting back together. Maybe we should do a 'Phowl' chant at Hampton?
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Anastasio: ...When you talk to (veteran concert promoter) Ron Delsner - who I love; "Ah, yeah, you'll be back when you need the money. I've seen it a million times. Like the Eagles -'when hell freezes over.'"
Maybe this is just a young naive person speaking, but I don't think we're going to do that. I really don't. The other thing is. I'm not the kind of person who does that. When I've broken up with girlfriends in the past, that's been the end of it. Before I got married, I was in a long relationship. We broke up, I walked out the door, threw my sh!t in the car and I've never spoken to her again. I don't like to look back.
And I hate bands that do it. I'm going to offend people here, but everytime it happens, it makes me want to vomit. So unless we changed our name to Phowl and wrote all new material, to go backward would be...like, I wish Jane's Addiction hadn't done it. Why'd they do that?
GW: There are all kinds of reasons why people do it.
Anastasio: People get broke.
GW: Or they forget. I mean, look at Simon and Garfunkel.
Anastasio: Why are they doing it? Because Paul Simon needs the money?
GW: I think after a certain point, the question "Why should I do that?" becomes "Why am I not doing it?" Like, 10 years from now, after you've done your orchestral projects and other things, you might find yourself saying,"Now why don't I want to play with those guys again?"
Anastasio: I'll tell you why. And let me say this while I'm young and brash, even though I'm somewhere in the middle of being young and old. I can't figure it out: in Guitar World, is 40 old?
Anyway I'll tell you why: Because it always sucks. Always. Guaranteed. It wouldn't be the same. Our fans, everybody would come out, and they'd all live lies. I would be much happier to step aside and let some young person come in and take that energy and run with it.
When I was walking offstage Friday night in Brooklyn, Brad said to me,"That was like a Tyson fight!" It was just an explosion of energy. And that's the way people are going to remember Phish. I'm not going to be able to do that when I'm 50, and I don't want to come back and have it be a half-assed version.
The only possible way it could ever work would be if it were completely reinvented. And that's the problem. We talked about that before the hiatus, and it didn't happen- because it can't. You can't go onstage without a hundred people screaming for "Fluffhead". I wrote "Fluffhead" when I was 19. There's an inherent energy to be pulled backward. So if that energy is saying, "Go backward!" and my heart is saying, "Go forward!" it starts to be a problem.
So if we came back...We can't come back. We can't. The scary part is, if we do end up broke and homeless, and they're offering us huge money...But the Police didn't come back!"
to be fair, I think Trey was really really high when he said all that. I mean he was a mess at Coventry, and drugs confuse people.
Also, people change. People are allowed to change. Change is sort of the essence of that which is Phish.
I don't hold that article against him at all. I think the reasons they are coming back are not among those listed, and I also think that, in 2004, Trey wasn't ready to envision what his life would be like without Phish 5 years after the fact.
I also think sobriety has cleared his head up to the point where he is thinking much more clearly now. At least I hope so.
I'm afraid to ask on other boards, but for those who have been around phish for years, whats the deal w/ fluffhead?? why dont they play that anymore? is there any reading i can do to know more about songs i can expect/not expect. I mean, All I know is that Mike tends to not want to play it anymore? I mean I know its a complex song, and must be difficult for even Phish to play....
Here's the deal with that. The reason they didn't play it in post-hiatus is because they never really practiced in post-hiatus, and to play that song, with that much complexity, without practice, it would've been absolutely butchered. They butchered a ton of stuff in post-hiatus b/c they didn't practice, like YEM, but YEM has a long improv section that kind of makes up for it. Fluffhead has a short improv section but is 90% composed. IT would've been a mess.
Mike actually never said he didn't want to play it, it was Trey that said that. At IT, on 8/3/03, the crowd started chanting "Fluffhead! Fluffhead! Fluffhead!" It was loud enough the band heard it. Trey walked over to Mike and asked if they could play it. It came out later that Mike said "yes, we haven't practiced it, but we could just flub our way through it." But Trey, being Trey, over-ruled him, and said into the microphone "Mike said no" and then he launched into Mike's Song.
the infamous "mike says no"! what a weekend that was.
yeah. time has moved forward. the albany trey show in october was solid. at one point he gave a speech about living in the area and writing new songs and how we'd hear them with this band, tab, or THAT OTHER BAND! there's always something special about albany shows. its nice being an hour from albany by car and a little over and hour on the train.
yeah. time has moved forward. the albany trey show in october was solid. at one point he gave a speech about living in the area and writing new songs and how we'd hear them with this band, tab, or THAT OTHER BAND! there's always something special about albany shows. its nice being an hour from albany by car and a little over and hour on the train.
At the Richmond, VA TAB show, he came out to play some acoustic phish stuff and made the comment "What are we about an hour away? I want to take my tent and camp out for 3 months!!"
nice. he closed the second set with brian and robert, back on the train, farmhouse, BATHTUB GIN. bathtub gin was the song that really got me into phish. one of my buddies listened to the ph but i never really listened them until i went to college in fall 98. was exposed to them and really got into them. didnt get the chance to see them until fall 2000 but at least got to see them once before the hiatus. played bathtub gin at my first show. havent played it a show ive seen once since. that acoustic bathub in albany was awesome because it was like it came full circle.
Post by mangopositive on Feb 9, 2009 10:27:03 GMT -5
I'm in for March 6th & 7th, but I'm really hoping they screw up and accidentally send me all 3 days. I got my tickets through the lottery. I like to think that if I'd tried for Sunday, I would have had a different place in the lottery and would have been shut out.
My wife decided she wanted to go on vacation with a friend in CA and see two Avett Brothers shows out west instead of Phish, so I was able to surprise my old show buddy with tickets.
Post by candyflippedaround on Feb 9, 2009 11:10:38 GMT -5
trey has also said he regrets saying things like that, and wonders why he said things like he wouldnt want to play You Enjoy Myself for the rest of his life.
First I'd like to say cool idea..the "what shows are you going to"? was getting real tired so I'm glad now I have a reason to open this thread again (I stepped off for like the last 20-30 pages getting boored)
ok well my actual first Phish show would have been 4-29-87. Visiting a friend at college and he told me about this band that was playing at this bar so we went to check it out. I had never heard of them and of course was not familiar with any songs aside from the covers they played Peaches, Curtis Lowe, GTBT, Dazed and confused. Being a pretty big Deadhead at this point having started seeing them towards the end of 1984 I took to Phish but did not go crazy seeing them because I was so enamored with Jerry and the boys. Went to the free show at Ian's farm in Aug. of '87 this being my first blowout show with them and by this point I even knew a few of their songs. favorite that I attended...this was tough but here's one that continues to be in my listening rotation and is one hell of a killer show. this was like my 4th or 5th show and by now I was a bit more familiar with their songs 03-03-90 The Wetlands Preserve, New York City, NY
Sound Check: Tweezer
1: Mike's Song-> I Am Hydrogen-> Weekapaug Groove, My Sweet One*, The Squirming Coil, Lizards, Oh Kee Pa Ceremony-> AC/DC Bag, Reba, Rocky Top, You Enjoy Myself, Possum
2: Dinner and a Movie, Caravan, Fluffhead, Esther, Funky Bitch*, Carolina, The Divided Sky
I don't care what you say about me, just spell my name right---P.T. Barnum "As I was walking up the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish to God he'd go away."
I am so F-in Stoked! I just got my 'Roo tix today so there's 2 shows. Got my Knoxville through Lottery so we're up to 3. Oh and I am one of the ridiculously lucky people who got ALL 3 NIGHTS TO HAMPTON!!! (in The Lottery) 6 Phish shows between now and June 14th. Hell Yeah! I would try and catch them in knoxville if i could afford it. Gotta see the dead in Greensboro and go to Summer Camp Music Fest in Chillicothe IL.
6 Phish shows is HEAVEN! I am going to have to go over my previous shows and see what my favorite show was. That's tough.
Hey guys, I thought this would provoke some good discussion. I just found this post on PT, so I copied and pasted verbatim (you guys will especially appreciate Trey's closing remark):
"Was rereading the Guitar World interview from October 2004. Here were Trey's thoughts on Phish and bands in general getting back together. Maybe we should do a 'Phowl' chant at Hampton?
...
Anastasio: ...When you talk to (veteran concert promoter) Ron Delsner - who I love; "Ah, yeah, you'll be back when you need the money. I've seen it a million times. Like the Eagles -'when hell freezes over.'"
Maybe this is just a young naive person speaking, but I don't think we're going to do that. I really don't. The other thing is. I'm not the kind of person who does that. When I've broken up with girlfriends in the past, that's been the end of it. Before I got married, I was in a long relationship. We broke up, I walked out the door, threw my sh!t in the car and I've never spoken to her again. I don't like to look back.
And I hate bands that do it. I'm going to offend people here, but everytime it happens, it makes me want to vomit. So unless we changed our name to Phowl and wrote all new material, to go backward would be...like, I wish Jane's Addiction hadn't done it. Why'd they do that?
GW: There are all kinds of reasons why people do it.
Anastasio: People get broke.
GW: Or they forget. I mean, look at Simon and Garfunkel.
Anastasio: Why are they doing it? Because Paul Simon needs the money?
GW: I think after a certain point, the question "Why should I do that?" becomes "Why am I not doing it?" Like, 10 years from now, after you've done your orchestral projects and other things, you might find yourself saying,"Now why don't I want to play with those guys again?"
Anastasio: I'll tell you why. And let me say this while I'm young and brash, even though I'm somewhere in the middle of being young and old. I can't figure it out: in Guitar World, is 40 old?
Anyway I'll tell you why: Because it always sucks. Always. Guaranteed. It wouldn't be the same. Our fans, everybody would come out, and they'd all live lies. I would be much happier to step aside and let some young person come in and take that energy and run with it.
When I was walking offstage Friday night in Brooklyn, Brad said to me,"That was like a Tyson fight!" It was just an explosion of energy. And that's the way people are going to remember Phish. I'm not going to be able to do that when I'm 50, and I don't want to come back and have it be a half-assed version.
The only possible way it could ever work would be if it were completely reinvented. And that's the problem. We talked about that before the hiatus, and it didn't happen- because it can't. You can't go onstage without a hundred people screaming for "Fluffhead". I wrote "Fluffhead" when I was 19. There's an inherent energy to be pulled backward. So if that energy is saying, "Go backward!" and my heart is saying, "Go forward!" it starts to be a problem.
So if we came back...We can't come back. We can't. The scary part is, if we do end up broke and homeless, and they're offering us huge money...But the Police didn't come back!"
someone needs to find the article where he says "Looking back now I think to myself I'd give my left nut to play You Enjoy Myself everyday of my life for the rest of my life." i forget when or where he said it but it was in an interview that was taken like a month before the reunion announcement. i'd go look for it but i don't have time right now.
EDIT:
found it
"Trey Anastasio Hints at Phish Reunion
5/28/08, 8:03 am EST
Nearly four years after their break-up, the four members of Phish may have some unfinished business together. In an interview with Rolling Stone last week, Trey Anastasio didn’t exactly say the band has talked about a reunion, but he did drop some heavy hints. “When Phish broke up, I made some comment about how I’m not gonna go around playing ‘You Enjoy Myself’ for the rest of my life,” Anastasio said with a laugh. “And it’s so funny because Fish and Mike and Page have been talking to each other a lot lately and now — it’s not that I can’t believe that I said that, but its symbolic of how much I lost my mind or how much I lost my bearings or something. Because at this point in time I would give my left nut to play that song five times in a row every day until I die. I certainly thought about that while I was in jail.”
Anastasio spoke to RS on May 21st, the same day he received some good news: He was sentenced to probation on charges of possessing painkillers without a prescription, which had been reduced to a misdemeanor after he completed a drug treatment program. Earlier in May, Anastasio and the other members of Phish stood onstage together in New York to accept a lifetime achievement award at the Jammies." -RollingStone
"Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made." Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Soul of Man Under Socialism
"You're either on the bus or off the bus." Ken Kesey
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
I think we might get a Guyute , Nicu, Rock N Roll and Mike's Song but if the pulled out a long Bath Tub Gin I would be happy. If they play Gamehenge I might not make it off the farm.
i wonder if they allowed him to have a guitar in jail?
he never went to jail. it's a cover up. he had a get out of jail for free card because he saved prussia and the lizards in gamehendge by punching wilson in the eye.
"Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made." Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Soul of Man Under Socialism
"You're either on the bus or off the bus." Ken Kesey
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
I don't care what you say about me, just spell my name right---P.T. Barnum "As I was walking up the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish to God he'd go away."
I think we might get a Guyute , Nicu, Rock N Roll and Mike's Song but if the pulled out a long Bath Tub Gin I would be happy. If they play Gamehenge I might not make it off the farm.
I'd say Bathtub Gin is an absolute 100% certainty.
If there's anything a filthy festival crowd loves, it's the chance to sing "I'd Love To Take A Bath" at the top of their lungs.
Not that it's my favorite song or anything but it has my name in it so it gets me all excited! 
