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Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Feb 23, 2013 1:50:14 GMT -5
Finished the first volume in 1Q84, and the beginning of the second is getting really good. I need to stop reading books that take 500 pages to get going. After this book I think I'll do something quick like a McCarthy and then knock off a few hundred pages of Infinite Jest. I started it after I finished Anathem and had to put it down after about 200 pages.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Feb 23, 2013 4:02:52 GMT -5
Hoooooly shit!! I'm reading Being Dead by Jim Crace. This book is astonishing. The novel is fashioned as a circuital account of the death and life of Celice and Joseph, wound in reverse, much like the "quiverings" of yore that the book frequently speaks of. The macabre deaths of the main characters is portrayed in a captivating, lyrical, yet savagely graphic manner. Those chapters alone are well worth the read. However, woven between, is an equally enchanting tale of life and love.
This book has been in my hands every spare moment since I started it. Thank you for the recommendation, Sir.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
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Finished the first volume in 1Q84, and the beginning of the second is getting really good. I need to stop reading books that take 500 pages to get going. After this book I think I'll do something quick like a McCarthy and then knock off a few hundred pages of Infinite Jest. I started it after I finished Anathem and had to put it down after about 200 pages.
I'm curious what you think of it when you are finished. I read it over a year ago and I'm still trying to decide what I think.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Feb 24, 2013 13:24:15 GMT -5
I'm almost half way through the whole thing and have honestly lowered my expectations already. It is an easy fast read, but I was expecting something a little... more. Maybe I just read the genre too much or am used to reading denser books. Its not bad by any stretch, but I can't imagine it to be one of the first things I'd recommend someone. That said, it is definitely nice to read something where you aren't having to go back and re-read a page five times every chapter.
Hoooooly shiz!! I'm reading Being Dead by Jim Crace. This book is astonishing. The novel is fashioned as a circuital account of the death and life of Celice and Joseph, wound in reverse, much like the "quiverings" of yore that the book frequently speaks of. The macabre deaths of the main characters is portrayed in a captivating, lyrical, yet savagely graphic manner. Those chapters alone are well worth the read. However, woven between, is an equally enchanting tale of life and love.
This book has been in my hands every spare moment since I started it. Thank you for the recommendation, Sir.
Anyone able to tell me whether the last thousand pages of Atlas Shrugged are just as much of a pointless slog as the first hundred pages were?
Not sure I was right to include it in this thread...
Can't imagine you reading this - the guy who recommended Zinn's "People's History of America"
1) It's "People's History of The United States" or "People's History of the American Empire" 2) If you are trying to smack talk Zinn, I will fight you.
I'm almost half way through the whole thing and have honestly lowered my expectations already. It is an easy fast read, but I was expecting something a little... more. Maybe I just read the genre too much or am used to reading denser books. Its not bad by any stretch, but I can't imagine it to be one of the first things I'd recommend someone.
That's my impression, too. I was expecting it to be an amazing book that I would talk about for years to come. And, it hasn't been.
Post by Dave Maynar on Feb 25, 2013 7:01:36 GMT -5
I finished Under The Dome this weekend. I think it was good but nothing special. Whereas I had issues with 11/22/63's ending because I didn't want it to end that way (even though it had to and was a great ending, i think), I had issues with Under The Dome's ending because it kind of sucked.
I finished Under The Dome this weekend. I think it was good but nothing special. Whereas I had issues with 11/22/63's ending because I didn't want it to end that way (even though it had to and was a great ending, i think), I had issues with Under The Dome's ending because it kind of sucked.
How did the cars run with the lack of oxygen? Big hole in the ending for me unless cars don't need much oxygen in order to operate.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
bansheebeat (and whoever else has an opinion on the matter), where do I start with Bukowski?
Novel wise? Women, Post Office, Ham on Rye are the best. Women isn't for everyone, but it's one of my all time favorite books and what I would most recommend starting with, if you like it chances are you'll like most his work and if you don't like it then chances are you wont like his other stuff.
Poetry? Pick up any collection really. The Last Night on Earth, The People Look Like Flowers at Last and Love is A Dog From Hell are my favorites (in that order).
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bansheebeat (and whoever else has an opinion on the matter), where do I start with Bukowski?
Poetry or novels? Also. Ask the whore.
Novels. I am a prose kind of guy. Also, I can't admit anything but negative feelings about poetry where A$AP Rosko might see me. Whoreshack, what say you?
Novels. I am a prose kind of guy. Also, I can't admit anything but negative feelings about poetry where A$AP Rosko might see me. Whoreshack, what say you?
I say Women in that case. Although I'm curious as to what whoreshack has to say.
Novels. I am a prose kind of guy. Also, I can't admit anything but negative feelings about poetry where A$AP Rosko might see me. Whoreshack, what say you?
I say Women in that case. Although I'm curious as to what whoreshack has to say.
I agree with BB here. Women is my favorite. And Ham on Rye.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I finished Under The Dome this weekend. I think it was good but nothing special. Whereas I had issues with 11/22/63's ending because I didn't want it to end that way (even though it had to and was a great ending, i think), I had issues with Under The Dome's ending because it kind of sucked.
How did the cars run with the lack of oxygen? Big hole in the ending for me unless cars don't need much oxygen in order to operate.
The population density of the area which is enclosed in the dome along with the relative short time frame of the story allows King to dodge the big changes that would be brought up by such a situation happening. This serves the narrative since it allows the nerdy scientific side of me to calm down and enjoy the story.
Abra and I coined a term for writers called "The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon Syndrome". In case you haven't read that book, it's where a writer writes a detailed story for 95% of the book and then says "F*ck it." and wraps the rest up in 10 pages. I think this is what happened here. He builds and builds for around 1,000 pages then explosiongoodguydiesbadguydiesgoodguydiesbadguydiesdomeliftsfinish. Also, the answer to lifting the dome is to ask. Seriously? The whole idea of adolescent cruelty in an alien species was just very rough to me and didn't seem to fit in.
Post by Whoreshack on Feb 25, 2013 13:27:53 GMT -5
Ham on Rye. Post Office. Women... The Buk Trinity. Love is a Dog from Hell is untouchable poetry. Also, You Get So Alone at Times that it Just Makes Sense and Play the Piano Drunk like a Percussion Instrument till yr Fingers Bleed a bit are indespensible collections.
Post by Whoreshack on Feb 25, 2013 13:32:37 GMT -5
Maynard, Run With The Hunted is a really good cheater "reader" sampler of Buk. Also, I suggest you find that Being Dead by John Crace, that LLL posted. It's amazing.
Maynard, Run With The Hunted is a really good cheater "reader" sampler of Buk. Also, I suggest you find that Being Dead by John Crace, that LLL posted. It's amazing.
Holy crap. My library actually has the Crace book. I will have to search the internets for Bukowski though.
bansheebeat (and whoever else has an opinion on the matter), where do I start with Bukowski?
I haven't read much of his poetry, but I love his novels. Some people advise reading them in the order they were published to see his style evolve. I disagree - I think his style came fully formed from the womb, so generally recommend reading them in the order they occurred in his life. So that would be:
Ham on Rye Factotum Post Office Women Hollywood
Ham on Rye is still my favorite just because it lays the foundation of a crazy childhood home into a crazy adult life. Women is okay, but he's got money and some fame in that one. The first three are most brilliant at depicting how down on his luck he constantly was. I haven't read them in a few years and some of the imagery, especially some of the women he was with, is still in my head. Hollywood is my least favorite but it's interesting in that it's mostly about his experience making Barfly. I might give them all a reread this year actually.
Novels. I am a prose kind of guy. Also, I can't admit anything but negative feelings about poetry where A$AP Rosko might see me. Whoreshack, what say you?
That's OK because Bukowski's poetry is pretty atrocious IMO.
Novels. I am a prose kind of guy. Also, I can't admit anything but negative feelings about poetry where A$AP Rosko might see me. Whoreshack, what say you?
That's OK because Bukowski's poetry is pretty atrocious IMO.
Novels. I am a prose kind of guy. Also, I can't admit anything but negative feelings about poetry where A$AP Rosko might see me. Whoreshack, what say you?
That's OK because Bukowski's poetry is pretty atrocious IMO.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
