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Post by designdiva96 on Jan 17, 2009 15:27:52 GMT -5
Longtime lurker, noob poster who has read all of the previous posts, throwing my vote down for Snoop Dogg, think the clue fits him best. Also thought it might be worth exploring djjdfarmhounds twitter post "remember: you won't know if you are right or wrong until the announcement. If somebody got it right right off the bat ain't nobody tellin." again because as I see it the second half of this post sounds to me like a double negative meaning that somebody did get it right, and thats his way of letting us know...If I am remember correctly Snoop Dogg was mentioned before this twitter post. Also, might I suggest that a new feed be made for each new clue, that way we won't have to try and figure out where the next clue starts & such
i'm totally on the snoop band wagon....i think because of that its holding me back by not having an open mind. everything djjd has done so far though clues or twitter seem to point to snoop without a huge stretch
Have we completely ruled out anything related to the Peter Pan story?
I've read the original, seen "Hook" and at least two incarnations of the movie -- I watched the 2003 version with Jason Isaacs last night -- and did a paper comparing the story to the films back in my Kiddie Lit class and I haven't had any "aha" moments about it. I did find myself wondering if there was a clue in Lost Boys: The Tribe when I saw that it was airing on TNT last night but that's when I decided to stop thinking about this for a while....
("Peter Pan had a good roast before he was beat to a pulp, and the ocean spray from a westward bay invites you to take a big gulp")
Peter Pan / roast = Peanut Butter Westward Bay = From the San Francisco area
Peanut Butter Wolf is from San Jose, CA - matches both parts of the clue perfectly. Interestingly, Peanut Butter Wolf owns Stones Throw Records. If you look at his website, you'll see that Stones Throw Records manages Omar Rodriguez Lopez - of Mars Volta fame. This to me means that either Peanut Butter Wolf, Omar, or both will be there.
Post by BonnarooDetective on Jan 17, 2009 15:48:16 GMT -5
I am not buying into the Snoop speculation.
Sure, you can use the associative property to get the first half of the clue to lead to Snoopy and ultimately, Snoop. However, that would suggest that the second half of the clue should add up to Dogg. And it doesn't. People are using juice (as in Gin and Juice) and west coast connections to draw a vague picture of Snoop. However, this wouldn't be how the clue would work. If the first half of the clue directly translates into something, the second half would as well.
[EDIT: Reply Number 1,000 in this thread!! I Win I Win!!!]
Sure, you can use the associative property to get the first half of the clue to lead to Snoopy and ultimately, Snoop. However, that would suggest that the second half of the clue should add up to Dogg. And it doesn't. People are using juice (as in Gin and Juice) and west coast connections to draw a vague picture of Snoop. However, this wouldn't be how the clue would work. If the first half of the clue directly translates into something, the second half would as well.
Post by monkeymonkeyjoyjoy on Jan 17, 2009 15:58:19 GMT -5
This is most likely nothing, and I know NOTATHING about these guys except that they exist...but Manic Street Preachers have one album that has a song "Ocean Spray", and on the same album a song titled "Baby Elias" that has a chorus line something about "Operation Peter Pan"...just somethings from the hunting! Probably nothing, but whatever there's something I found!
Sure, you can use the associative property to get the first half of the clue to lead to Snoopy and ultimately, Snoop. However, that would suggest that the second half of the clue should add up to Dogg. And it doesn't. People are using juice (as in Gin and Juice) and west coast connections to draw a vague picture of Snoop. However, this wouldn't be how the clue would work. If the first half of the clue directly translates into something, the second half would as well.
[EDIT: Reply Number 1,000 in this thread!! I Win I Win!!!]
Couldn't help but notice that if we follow this logic in solving the clue then every group that's been suggested so far doesn't make the cut. I followed last years clues & their subsequent solving but not that closely - can any vets weigh in on the above & add to this opinion??
Post by BonnarooDetective on Jan 17, 2009 16:19:12 GMT -5
Yes.
You are right, using my logic, none of the bands suggested so far make the cut. Which is why I (and many others) do not believe we have solved this clue yet. No one has got it.
Post by plasticpepper on Jan 17, 2009 16:21:56 GMT -5
I really don't buy the snoop thing either. I still think it's just one of those cases where you can stretch the clue to fit any band you want. We started discussing Snoop based on the dog connections in the pre-clues, and I think it's only because of that that this seems to make so much sense. We've only had one "real" clue and I think we're sort of losing track of that. People are saying that Snoop has to be it because it's the only thing that fits everything, but there is no "everything" beyond the various parts of that one real clue. And yeah, I admit that Snoop could make sense for that clue. But I think without the earlier stuff, it would just be a possible guess, and it's only because we were already thinking of him that it seems (to some people) like it must be the answer.
Besides, djjd has been very good about clarifying stuff for us this year. He clarified "left fielders" so we would know it wasn't that our guesses were way off, he clarified "sounds like" so we knew it didn't mean rhyming, he repeated the clue when we were trying to figure out the wording, earlier clues pointing to the twitter were sort of reworded over and over until we got it, etc. When he told us this was the first "real" clue, we all assumed that meant we could stop thinking about the other ones. If we were wrong about them and there was still a connection, doesn't it seem pretty likely that he would have clarified that as well?
Some of the clues and answers from last year we do get confirmations, at least after the lineup comes out.
"For all you lineup lookers....here is a clue: There is more than one Manchester." ~~~ I have no idea what this means, it just sounded cool. In other words, red herring. "Memphis isnt Albany" M.I.A. "Clouds taste this way" Metallica "Some Herrings are red, Jimmy" Allman Brothers, or a statement that some clues are misleading, or a statement that Led Zep is out ? "Hard Substance, Soft Substance" Iron and Wine "Janis Joplin's preserves will be served" Pearl Jam "Rumors are just rumors, but twist them sideways, grow your humor hair and they become a more yen reality. No, this is not about Fleetwood Mac" Lez Zep ? "it's not sour, what is sowed in the earth" Robert Plant and Allison Kraus "Three certain birds, add one" abigail washburn & sparrow quartet "look to the center of europe to get the sound, but the band comes form all around." Gogol Bordelo "Here is another clue for you message board people. Open up the church and you will see the steeple. Some of your guesses have been way off but correct for the wrong clues. Now I must cough." (a statement that some people were guessing bands playing- but from the clues for other bands!) "Message board chatter? Yes it does matter. We hear your song requests. So Listen High Listen Low Dont Look Too Hard This Is New Radio Bonnaroo"just a friendly hello to a couple of the message boards (including this one) "Charlies imaginary band will not be playing and what he wrote on his hand the last few things he was not saying." Oasis not Playing? "The Walrus aint Paul" red herring to confuse ? "mouton insupportable apprivoiser" French for unbearable tamed lamb MIA "What rhymes with orange?" (Nothing, man) "Arizona in Manchester" MIA There are at three MIA clues, I think. And three letters in MIA. I love threes. "What is in the dessert isnt." Oasis isn't playing. Lithuanian language used to indicate a dead-related act
Post by viciouscircle on Jan 17, 2009 16:31:13 GMT -5
I don't think we've solved it yet, either. He was pretty clear that all the previous clues were only for the twitter. He obfuscates, but he doesn't outright lie to us. If you disregard all those early clues, as he said we should, then neither Snoop nor any other band we've come up with, that we can reasonably expect to be getting clues about, fits all of the parts of this clue.
Then again, I never got how "sour" in one of last year's clues really pointed to Alison Krauss, feeling that Krauss kind of sounds like kraut was way too tenuous a connection. And it turned out to be the right answer. We think. So who knows.
good point I was just taking in consideration the various artist. It is hard to say if we know it or not. Maybe we arn't even going the right direction yet.
Would it be out of place for me to ask if it is possible to briefly outline the patterns that you discovered underlying last years clues?
There are a number of devices DjjD uses.
Acronyms (Memphis Isn't Albany - for MIA)
Associative Translation (it's not sour, that which is sowed in the earth - Plant/Krauss)
Lyrical References (Clouds Taste This Way - Metallica)
Other than that, many of the clues were more direct than you would think. Some, still, were somewhat convoluted (the Chairman of the Board, after the Birthday Party - Ben Folds [the implication being that you FOLD a chair up after a party is over]). Let us not forget that a number of clues (including the first one last year, apparently) were red herrings.
Sure, you can use the associative property to get the first half of the clue to lead to Snoopy and ultimately, Snoop. However, that would suggest that the second half of the clue should add up to Dogg. And it doesn't. People are using juice (as in Gin and Juice) and west coast connections to draw a vague picture of Snoop. However, this wouldn't be how the clue would work. If the first half of the clue directly translates into something, the second half would as well.
[EDIT: Reply Number 1,000 in this thread!! I Win I Win!!!]
Well if you use the first half of the clue to lean to snoopy, snoopy is a dog. Snoop Dogg was nicknamed after Snoopy the dog. So that would take care of that.
But if you want the second half, here is a defintion of bay "bay 4 (bâ) Pronunciation Key n. A deep, prolonged bark, such as the sound made by hounds. "
Not only does it relate to dogs, it relates to hounds, which is what we have been working with.
I really don't see a better plausible explanation. But I've said my piece . No more need to clutter up the board till Djjd gives us more info.....Here's to Snoop at Bonnarizzle
Post by The Wookie Monster on Jan 17, 2009 16:43:43 GMT -5
Okay, I thought of the second part of the riddle and what does an ocean spray do to make you gulp....it erupts like a volcano...and right now only two bands are linked w/ eruption and that is Snoop Dogg and Van Halen...but we can think along the lines maybe....also while I'm typing this, what does a volcano remind people of...Hell...so Meat Loaf comes back into play, but anything with Hell or lava may suffice