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I'm talking about the 2-3 pages of random pics. That was merely The Nonsense. We were getting restless.
I would also like to note WHY we were getting restless. We were getting restless because we were waiting on Bek to post some Night results. I had suggested we could look at login times to see who hadn't logged in - it would show us who hadn't been online to PM Bek, indicating those players are likely to have roles. All but one player had participated in the thread. Bek returned to post, but not to share a story. Bek refused to post those results until every single player had logged in. That last player Bek was waiting on? Higgi.
I think it's quite likely Bek was waiting on a PM from Higgi before she even could close that vote. I suspect that she wasn't able to complete that Night until Higgi sent her a PM. It's not that she wouldn't post the Night results - it's that she couldn't post the Night results. I can't confim recent log-in times for previous votes, because we've all participated since then... but notice that she never explicitly waited for anyone to log in at any other point this game. Veterans of past Mafia games will know that, as a player, Bek herself has used log-in times as an investigative tool.
She's going to deny this, which is what I expect of a Referee in this situation. She can't be in the business of confirming/disproving what players say in the thread, and has to remain neutral. That doesn't mean that I'm wrong; it means she's being a good Referee.
We know we lost our Vigilante by that point; the Inspector was possibly dead; we can't be sure of the Nurse because we've heard zilch all game... those are all big maybes. We DO know that there are still Mafia out there, which makes Mafia the only role we can be certain Bek is still receiving PMs from.
The fact that that Night dragged on for so long, with the results awaiting only on Higgi, makes me quite certain Higgi is Mafia.
I am staying with HGH. If you want HGH and Higgi gone, then I agree with rooconteur what is the difference in HGH going now.
Rooconteur wants Handgunhips & Higgi gone. I want Higgi gone, but think we should keep HGH around.
It's not impossible that they're both Mafia. From what I've seen, I believe Higgi to be Mafia for sure and I'm not certain about Handgun. Fish suggested, and I believe, that HGH could be the true Inspector instead of Bama. We were discussing this in code last round, and now that it's out in the open we're both on Handgun's side. That should say something.
I'm not saying that Handgun shouldn't be considered a suspect in the future. I just think the evidence we currently have against Higgi makes him a safer choice than Handgun for now.
Give me a quote on that. I don't recall this happening. I'm going to go look for one myself after this post.
Let me explain a bit about the Inspector to make sure you know what's going on here. At this point, the Inspector has one Mafia name (from the beginning of the game) and three guesses from the Night.
The three Nightly guesses are just that - guesses. The Inspector only knows more than one Mafia identity if they have chosen them to ask the Referee that night. The Inspector does not necessarily learn the name of a Mafia each and every night. All we know right now is that the Inspector has confirmation on the identities of four players. She could have said something out of mere speculation.
My vote might hinge on this quote. I want to see it.
RonBurgandy? is innocent. Tara was mafia. Take note of Sadie. Kdogg is a smart player, not flattery.
It seems to me like she got Tara's name at the beginning of the game, and later asked about RonBurgandy? (probably in Night One) only to receive an answer affirming innocence. I think she knows about Higgi because she asked about Higgi another Night.
I'm going to work today.. so I won't be around and I'm running a bit behind, so this is going to be a bit everywhere. Krizz was innocent, I'm positive of that. Fishing and Kdogg are also innocent, I'm positive of that. I also believe we have two mafia left. I don't know who both of them are. I can show you this:
I don't think that rooconteur and fishingmaniac are mafia either, because they were mafia last game.
When I asked her WHY she didn't think they were mafia, Higgi especially she gives:
She's not the Inspector, I know that. So she just KNOWS he isnt? We had numerous people speak up and insist Krizz was innocent and she wouldn't budge, granted, neither would a lot of people.
It's assumed NBF was innocent, I know I'm innocent and Kdogg is innocent. Weird that they both agree on the same, very unlikely theory. And that no other innocent players seem to buy it.. just them.. THEN KELAROO jumps on the bandwagon-
I'm sorry this is so thrown together, I'm going to be late! :]
Is this what you're talking about? If it is, I don't think what Handgun is saying here is that she KNOWS you're Mafia. If she's Inspector, even with special knowledge, she isn't guaranteed to know any Mafia name but the one received that the beginning of the game. I think she is saying that she KNOWS Higgi is Mafia, and that you are wrong in saying that Higgi isn't Mafia.
I want to hear your response to this before I vote.
If Handgun is Inspector, and we're both likely to die before the next Day, I want it to be known what I think she's asked about over the course of this game:
Given at the beginning of the game - Tara.
Asked about RonBurgandy?, was told RB? is not Mafia. Asked about Higgi, was told that Higgi is Mafia. I'm not sure in which order, but it seems to me she's confident on both of their status. I'm not sure about her third guess. After the stunt I pulled during the Fishing/NBF runoff, I'm tempted to think it was yours truly.
What if Higgi is inspector and knows that HGH is mafia He has voted her everytime!
Higgi's voting record: Day One, first round of voting: Handgun Day One, run-off between Tara/Higgi/RB?: Tara Day Two, first round: Fishingmaniac Day Two, run-off: NothingButFlowers Day Three: Handgun
He has not voted for her each and every time. He voted for Handgun twice. His first vote was the same as Tara's first vote. I think that Tara is Mafia, and they saw that she was the Inspector.
Then why hasn't handgun even bothered to defend herself? She knows she's guilty and she knows she's dead. She voted Higgi to throw us off bc he's the other mafia. She knew (thought) her voted didn't matter because she already had 4 votes against her. But if you really think I'm guilty, vote me off and you'll lose. Just do something soon.
I'm responding to this first, because I'm not even to the next page..
I have voted for Higgi EVERY SINGLE round. Not just this round. I'm not mafia with him. I'm telling you that HE is mafia by voting every single round the exact same way.
Post by handgunhipster on Mar 24, 2009 12:07:45 GMT -5
Kelaroo- unlike you, I do not have access to internet from work. You know this,because we've discussed our jobs in PM's-- that's why I haven't responded.
Why havent I written in awhile to give you direction? ARE YOU following my direction, kelaroo?
Also, I've never called you mafia. I've connected you to who I believe is mafia, but I never said you were mafia. I don't know if you are or not. If you are, you're playing clueless really well.
Since I shared every one of Higgi's votes, here is every one of Handgun's votes:
Day One, first vote: Tara Day One, run-off: Tara Day Two, first vote: Higgi Day Two, run-off between Fishingmaniac & NBF: Fishingmaniac Day Three: Higgi
Handgun has voted for Higgi just as often as Higgi has voted Handgun. She also consistently voted for Tara, whom I also believe was Mafia.
Handgun is our Inspector, dammit! We can't kill her!
