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Here's a snippet from a Billboard article about how the economy is affecting music festivals here and abroad:
And ticket sales for Bonnaroo in Tennessee "are looking really good compared with last year," says A.C. Entertainment president Ashley Capps, whose company co-produces Bonnaroo with Superfly Productions.
"Two weeks ago we were up 10% and this week we're up 15%, so I'm feeling really optimistic," Capps continues. He declined to reveal specific ticket sales numbers.
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Phish headlines and sales go significantly up despite an economy that's in the pooper...
I hope your taking notes superfly.
Yes, and yet Rothbury, which has the "headiest" lineup of any fest out there, has completely shat the bed.
Maybe it's more that Phish has reunited after 5 years off and Bonnaroo is the easiest ticket to see them, hmmm?
Or you're right, every single year Superfly should book a show by a band that has reunited after 5 years off that also happens to have a massive touring following. Why didn't they think of that last year? They should have booked Phish then!
Get off your high horse, you faux-hippie.
Haha, you say what we're all thinking, awesome. If you had karma I would give you some.
Where's that guy who said tickets were way down and they were meeting to discuss whether they could put on the festival? Yeah thats what I thought, way to get people worried over nothing.
I think all of the festivals will feel it a bit. The economy is poor, and not as many people will be able to get off for the four or five days of a festival. Some festivals will hurt more than others, but that's the nature of the beast.
Maybe it's more that Phish has reunited after 5 years off and Bonnaroo is the easiest ticket to see them, hmmm?
Or you're right, every single year Superfly should book a show by a band that has reunited after 5 years off that also happens to have a massive touring following. Why didn't they think of that last year?
This isn't new this year.
In 2007 they got the Police, who were on tour for the first time in 20-something years.
Last year was Metallica's first tour in over 4 years.
This year they have Phish, who's on tour for the first time in over 4 years.
I said it earlier today, and I'm still thinking it... Metallica was a top 3 show that I saw last year.
Sorry for the double post, but form where I stand, Metallica was one of the top shows at Bonnaroo... I agree. And so do many, many others.
Even if it was a top 3 show... you have to get a bunch of people to attend that show. And Phish and Bruce at Roo would tend to draw a bigger crowd than Metallica and Kanye
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It is a much stronger lineup (Kanye and Metallica scared away as many as they attacted last year), gas is much cheaper, and festivals are a fairly cheap vacation. All of these things are in Bonaroo's favor. I would like to know how ticket sales are doing compared 2007 and 2006.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Apr 12, 2009 0:41:00 GMT -5
So booking a headlining band with a larger tour following will sell more tickets, while booking a headlining band with a smaller tour following will sell fewer tickets. I agree with you that reuinions are not the deciding factor here.
Yoderoo suggested that SF "take notes" accordingly. Seems smart.
I agree with Yoderoo. I think its fair to say that phish fans are more willing to travel than kanye fans. Its not about the reunion. I've talked to a lot of people who are going to roo because it makes sense, since they'll be in knoxville to see phish.
Post by BonnarooDetective on Apr 12, 2009 10:34:29 GMT -5
People can say whatever they want about "faux-hippies," the fact of the matter is:
Metallica was on the bill and ticket sales were horrible.
Now Metallica isn't on the bill, and ticket sales are doing much better than last year.
And you can say, "oohhh, well it is becuase Phish is on the bill and they haven't played together in 5 years." But that isn't much of an excuse for Metallica. Bonnaroo was Metallica's first North American tour date in 4 years. Moreover, it was Metallica's ONLY announced North American show at the time. Phish is hitting up Bonnaroo as part of a massive summer tour. If someone wants to see Phish this summer, they can try to score tickets to one of dozens of shows that will, in all likelihood, be much cheaper and closer to their home. However, this time last year, if someone wanted to see Metallica, Bonnaroo was their ONLY option. Seems to me that Metallica should have been the bigger draw, but clearly they weren't.
People can say whatever they want about "faux-hippies," the fact of the matter is:
Metallica was on the bill and ticket sales were horrible.
Now Metallica isn't on the bill, and ticket sales are doing much better than last year.
And you can say, "oohhh, well it is becuase Phish is on the bill and they haven't played together in 5 years." But that isn't much of an excuse for Metallica. Bonnaroo was Metallica's first North American tour date in 4 years. Moreover, it was Metallica's ONLY announced North American show at the time. Phish is hitting up Bonnaroo as part of a massive summer tour. If someone wants to see Phish this summer, they can try to score tickets to one of dozens of shows that will, in all likelihood, be much cheaper and closer to their home. However, this time last year, if someone wanted to see Metallica, Bonnaroo was their ONLY option. Seems to me that Metallica should have been the bigger draw, but clearly they weren't.
How come it's always Metallica's fault that tickets sales were down last year...weren't Pearl Jam a headliner also.
How come it's always Metallica's fault that tickets sales were down last year...weren't Pearl Jam a headliner also.
Excellent point.
This people who are calling last year a Metallica and Kanye fest and this year a Phish fest should look up the term "Selection Bias." The top headliner last year was Pearl Jam, this year Bruce Springsteen.
I could just as easily make the point that it was Jack Johnson and WSP that drove people away and Beasties/NIN that's bringing them this year - it's nearly impossible to prove either way.
Post by viciouscircle on Apr 12, 2009 11:46:37 GMT -5
Attributing sales changes to any one factor, much less one band, is greatly oversimplifying economic processes - it's like analyzing a monkey as if it were an amoeba. Phish draws some fans, but they also scare some people off. Bruce brings some of those people back. Then there are the other 100+ bands on the lineup. Lower gas prices, lower relative cost of going to Roo vs. other kinds of vacations, what Roo is offering this year relative to other festivals as a whole are a few. Then we have the people from the last two years who came for Metallica and the Police, became fans of the festival as a well-rounded whole, and would be back this year with or without Phish. Here's yet another factor - unlike many competing festivals, Bonnaroo has a payment plan, and for people who chose other fests over Roo last year because they didn't need a payment plan then, but do this year, Roo becomes more attractive this year regardless of the lineup. That's a half-dozen or so reasons besides Phish, and I'm sure there are plenty more that I haven't though of.
It is a much stronger lineup (Kanye and Metallica scared away as many as they attacted last year), gas is much cheaper, and festivals are a fairly cheap vacation. All of these things are in Bonaroo's favor. I would like to know how ticket sales are doing compared 2007 and 2006.
Yep, that's why I didn't go last year. I had absolutely no interest in seeing Widespread Panic. I have seen Pearl Jam twice (in Chicago which is usually really good) and Metallica did not creat enough reason to drive to TN from northern IN. Although the rest of the lineup was great, I went to Lolla instead which had my favorite band of all time (Radiohead).
Personally i saw more people who seemed to be there exclusively for Metallica than i did Pearl Jam. Its hard to prove that obviously but that was just my generalization.
And i agree with whoever said
Widespread Panic Kanye West vs. Nine Inch Nails Beastie Boys
was just as strong a factor if not more so. I mean Widespread brings a crowd i suppose but after headlining it 5 times are they really gonna get people to put down 200 plus for a ticket to a festival they probably deemed "too radio friendly". Kanye may have brought people too but he appeals more directly to younger fans who ay not have the disposable income to afford such.
-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
Encore: -Ball and Biscuit -Seven Nation Army -Screwdriver
Post by BonnarooDetective on Apr 12, 2009 12:58:13 GMT -5
Panic isn't really relevant to the discussion. The quote from Capps said that ticket sales (at the time the interview was conducted) were up 15% from last year. At the same point last year, ABB were on the line-up and Panic was not. It wasn't until around April 14th that ABB canceled and a few days later Panic was added.
As someone else mentioned, Metallica and Kanye drove away just as many people as it attracted. I don't blame Pearl Jam because I didn't hear anyone say Pearl Jam was the reason they wouldn't be at 'roo. I did hear quite a number of people (both in the fantasy world that is the internets and in real life) say that Metallica and/or Kanye were motivation for them to attend another festival.
