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There is potential for a swine flu pandemic with a worrisomely high mortality rate. Events and activities involving large gatherings of people are being curtailed in affected areas. As of yet, there is no effective vaccine for this flu strain. CDC issued Interim Guidance for Infection Control for Care of Patients with Confirmed or Suspected Swine Influenza can be seen here: www.cdc.gov/swineflu/guidelines_infection_control.htm
Post by nitetimeritetime on Apr 26, 2009 15:10:37 GMT -5
According to that link, people who catch this get sick and are contagious for about 7 days, then they are fine. The mortality rate doesn't seem espcially worrisome, at least no more so than the normal flu. And the link lists two medications that get rid of it.
I'm as worried about this at Roo as I am about a catfish attack.
According to that link, people who catch this get sick and are contagious for about 7 days, then they are fine. The mortality rate doesn't seem especially worrisome, at least no more so than the normal flu. And the link lists two medications that get rid of it.
I'm as worried about this at Roo as I am about a catfish attack.
Let's hope so. There is some concern by health authorities about the susceptibility of young adults (e.g. the typical age group of Bonnaroo attendees). From a statement issued by the WHO, "The majority of these cases have occurred in otherwise healthy young adults. Influenza normally affects the very young and the very old, but these age groups have not been heavily affected in Mexico."
I don't think it is going to be anything that affects Bonnaroo. They don't cancel indoor shows during a bad flu season.
This is a flu strain that hasn't been seen before, so characterization is still pending. But, four days in an environment as potentially communicative as 'Roo is something to think about. Attendees are congregating from everywhere. You are in unavoidably close proximity to literally thousands of people. The Bonnaroo crowd is the age group targeted by the virus. The 'Roo environment is at the least epidemiologically interesting.
This is a flu strain that hasn't been seen before, so characterization is still pending. But, four days in an environment as potentially communicative as 'Roo is something to think about. Attendees are congregating from everywhere. You are in unavoidably close proximity to literally thousands of people. The Bonnaroo crowd is the age group targeted by the virus. The 'Roo environment is at the least epidemiologically interesting.
You just described every university in America. I've heard nothing about it from my university, and trust me, they've made us aware of every possible outbreak for the last 6 years, from flu to measles to TB. This may be "interesting" if you're into viruses, but at this point it seems this isn't something anyone else needs to have a second thought about.
If this thing actually ends up being a global pandemic then I think Roo would be the last thing I would be worried about. Its still too early to really worry about this but theres no doubt that it has the potential to be very bad.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Apr 26, 2009 16:49:06 GMT -5
^^ exactly. Nothing to worry about right now, since anti-virals take care of it. If it gets bad and people start dying en masse, we'll know before Bonnaroo. When health officials tell us we need to stay at home, then we can start worrying. There's no reason right now to get on this board and make people worry needlessly.
2/5- Papadosio 3/3- MUSE 3/12- John Mayer 3/19- The Werks 3/31- Passion Pit 4/18- Ben Folds 4/20- Against Me! 6/10- Bonnaroo 6/30- Eric Clapton and Roger Daltrey
*ahem* I know we're all excited about Bonnaroo guys, but there is a global pandemic that might kill us all...
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Yeah, since we're all going to Bonnaroo we should not discuss anything other than rainbows, unicorns and Phish.
The OP's post has been completely mischaracterized here. All he did was give a factual overview of what is a big story worldwide right now. 86 people are suspected to have died from it in Mexico in less than two weeks. Anti-virals MIGHT help some people, but they tend to only work well if they are started in the very early stages. The CDC and the WHO have already stated that it is impossible to contain the outbreak. Schools in Texas and New York have been closed.
Does that mean everyone should panic? Of course not, and noone suggested that, least of all the OP so I don't see why some of you are giving him a hard time. It's not like he brought up the Bonnaroo Giant Killer Catfish of Doom, he merely pointed out some facts and left it open for discussion. Personally, I'm not freaking out. But that doesn't mean the story isn't worth discussing.
The topic would probably be better suited for the Other forum, though.
Post by nitetimeritetime on Apr 26, 2009 19:23:14 GMT -5
If this had come up in the Other forum as a general interest thread unrelated to Bonnaroo, then the response would probably have been different. But the OP brought it up instead here as a thread about how this would affect Bonnaroo (Will Swine Flu Have An Impact?), and people rightly pointed out that it probably won't affect Roo at all. It might, but there's nothing we can do about it, unless I missed something.
And for the record, I DID bring up the Bonnaroo Giant Killer Catfish of Doom in this thread.
Personally, I'm not freaking out. But that doesn't mean the story isn't worth discussing.
The topic would probably be better suited for the Other forum, though.
I just wanted to discuss a hypothetical that has a significant number of government officials alarmed, and may have some effect on Bonnaroo.
The state of Tennessee, like many other states, has a Pandemic Flu Plan. Based on a set of criteria and authorizations, the plan contains a specific recommendation to large public gatherings. From the plan:
"Stage 2. Domestic transmission of pandemic virus with a loss of epidemiologic links among cases is laboratory-confirmed in Tennessee by CDC or the State Laboratory
a. Department of Health
i. Commissioner, or his designee, upon consultation with the Governor, will declare the suspension of discretionary public gatherings to be implemented on a county-by-county basis, when advised by the State Epidemiologist that triggering criteria have been met.
ii. All very large discretionary public gatherings (>10,000 persons) in the state designed to attract participants from out of state or from affected regions of the state should be suspended."
Just to be clear, no pandemic flu has been characterized, as of yet. But, "Domestic transmission of pandemic virus with a loss of epidemiologic links among cases" has been confirmed by laboratory testing in the U.S. *Not* in Tennesee, however.
Edit: This flu is not yet characterized as "pandemic."
Last Edit: Apr 26, 2009 19:43:49 GMT -5 by RBRR - Back to Top
*ahem* I know we're all excited about Bonnaroo guys, but there is a global pandemic that might kill us all...
groan
Yeah, since we're all going to Bonnaroo we should not discuss anything other than rainbows, unicorns and Phish.
Can't we have any fun?
I stand by my claim, worrying about swine flu is like worrying about bird flu, Y2K,Mad Cow Disease, or the virus in Resident Evil. It's just a news story perpetuated by news stations for ratings."Do you want to know the secret to keeping you and your family safe from Swine Flu, tune in at 11:00 to find out." I'm not saying it's meaningless that all these people died, but it seems like we're over reacting to this and causing more stress for ourselves than we need to. We don't even know what this is yet, or it's full effects, so why don't we hold off on raiding our local grocery stores.
If this had come up in the Other forum as a general interest thread unrelated to Bonnaroo, then the response would probably have been different. But the OP brought it up instead here as a thread about how this would affect Bonnaroo (Will Swine Flu Have An Impact?), and people rightly pointed out that it probably won't affect Roo at all. It might, but there's nothing we can do about it, unless I missed something.
And for the record, I DID bring up the Bonnaroo Giant Killer Catfish of Doom in this thread.
I actually think that thread is hilarious, especially when it isn't meaning to be, so maybe I just have a warped sense of things. I also read "will it have an impact" to mean an impact in many ways, not just Bonnaroo. Either way, I think it's an interesting topic and I don't find it overly alarmist, jus mis-forumed, and everybody does that from time to time.
so why don't we hold off on raiding our local grocery stores.
Oh hell no. I plan on running to my local store and buying up all the milk and bread I can get my hands on. Then I am buying up all the Tamiflu.
Actually, I am a pharmacist, that works in a grocery store, so I have all of the above covered. And I give flu shots. So if they get a vaccine for this sucker, I want all of you to line up and drop your pants. ;D