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This was my second roo and our camp was ransacked while we were at the Phish set Sunday. A few odds and ends were stolen (corn, toiletries, small cooler) but I really wasn't that upset. It was my fault for being too trusting of a bunch of skeevy hippies.
What does really grind my gears though, is all the trash people just blatantly left everywhere. Example. We wake up Monday and are picking up our area. Our neighbors (who sat around doing blow for 4 days straight and not evening going to see a single show) left early Monday and we noticed that where they parked, there was about 25 water bottles of piss just laying everywhere along with a lot of random trash. They didn't even have the common courtesy to put their pissbottles in a freaking trash bag or hell even a pile for that matter...
So I go out on a huge farm walk while I was waiting for my friend to check into clean vibes. People left thousands of pounds of aluminum easy up frames EVERYWHERE along with TONS of trash and brand new tents.
I am not a hippy nor a huge environmentalist but somehow I can drink 2 1/2 cases of beer, eat all the food I possibly can, smoke 5 packs of cigarettes, enjoy corn, and kill a bottle of whiskey without littering once through the entire festival.
Don't get me wrong. I had the best time of my life, but I seriously think someone important in the jam band scene should stand up and tell the community as a whole to stop being hypocrites.
For the record, my friends and I made our camp and our scumbag neighbors camp completely spotless. We personally only produced 2 bags of trash and took them to the dump sites ourselves.
I 100% agree w/you....it was my 4th Roo and my first time seeing Phish live. during the friday night Phish show, all i could think about was who was going to pick up all those freaking dead glowsticks the next day. ??? ??? ???
leaving the site on monday the place looked like Beruit all bombed out....we picked everything up as the weekend went along and we made an agreement w/ our neighbors to try to keep the trash to a minimum...not that our site was spotless, but we at least bagged up the trash and recycled.
ps - props to whoever came up w/ the compostable "corn cup" that all the drinks from vendors came in...very cool. ;D
Post by hibouxdufromage on Jun 16, 2009 15:01:45 GMT -5
I'm not sayin' it's excusable or anything, but clean vibes does take care of all of the stuff that's left behind. I spent about an hour Sunday morning cleaning up after my camping buddies, to wake up and find it trashed again a few hours later. Sorry that you got stuff stolen. I didn't hear of anyone in my area that had any problems with that.
Post by StreetBum87 on Jun 16, 2009 15:05:14 GMT -5
it was said sunday before phish to pick up your trash and al said it last year at summercamp "after the show, please everyone pick up at least one piece of trash when you leave"
Don't get me wrong. I had the best time of my life, but I seriously think someone important in the jam band scene should stand up and tell the community as a whole to stop being hypocrites.
eh. i don't know that it has anything to do with the "jam band scene." it's not like those are the only people who attended bonnaroo. and you don't really know that a "skeevy hippie" stole your stuff. could've been anyone.
it was said sunday before phish to pick up your trash and al said it last year at summercamp "after the show, please everyone pick up at least one piece of trash when you leave"
I am not saying they should politely recommend picking up some trash. I am saying that they should be a dick about it when they do. =)
Like maybe...
"Thanks for enjoying our set, now please pick your shit up when you leave so the 400 awesome volunteers can do something more productive here then wiping your asses for you."
We had a little trash compost outside our tent from where we got, uh... "lazy", but we picked it all up and separated them into the right bags the 'Roo staff gave us before we left Sunday night.
I will admit to flicking a few cigarette butts off into the distance when I was walking to and from Centeroo back to our campsite. But that's it, haha.
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Post by popsicle sarah on Jun 16, 2009 16:02:59 GMT -5
our cooler and two camp chairs got stolen late monday morning while we went to get our cars from BFE. it had to happen though. i can't make it through any festival without someone stealing something from me or my friends.
One of our coolers was stolen on Saturday, the one with most of the beer and our liquor drink, the "Instant Retard". And some of our campmate's deodorant. Luckily we had a few beers left in another cooler. And one stick of deodorant to share amongst 4 of us
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 16, 2009 16:16:21 GMT -5
I thought the trash this year was definitely less prevalent than what I remember in 07. There's gonna be trash when you get 80,000 people camping in the same area from Thurs-Mon. After the Phish show on Sunday there were atleast 10-20 "skeezy hippies" running around with bags picking up bottles, cups, glowsticks, and anything else on the ground. I saw a LOT of people with personal ash trays for their cig butts all weekend.
I dunno, it all seemed to be pretty good in comparison to what I remember in the past.
Post by bamadancer on Jun 16, 2009 16:16:58 GMT -5
We heard at volunteer orientation that apparently there are locals who are quite infamous for coming in on trucks/4wheelers the last day and swiping stuff. So it could've been that. Apparently there are also gangs that come through and steal stuff as well. I think it's more likely that than a random "skeevy hippie".
Post by moonshine3 on Jun 16, 2009 16:18:00 GMT -5
someone swiped my nine inch nails poster while i was in line grabbing some food. the poster was on the side of my bag which i was wearing. the worst part is i was wearing the bag while it happened and i was wearing the bag on my chest and not my back to avoid that possibility. now i am trying to find another one online for a reasonable price.
I'm an Eagle scout. A bunch of the people I with worked with me at a scout camp for years. We went through 12 cases of PBR, grilled enough food to feed a small army, and ingested enough party favors to make a couple of elephants dance, and yet we didn't leave any trash when we left.
The 9 of us ended up staying Monday for an extra couple of hours, wandering around our campsite with a couple of other random people we had met, picking up shit that people had left and bagging it.
I was always taught to leave it cleaner then you found it. That's not really that hard of an expectation.
Do not kill, do not rape, do not steal, these are principles that every man of every faith can embrace. These are not polite suggestions, these are codes of behavior and those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.
I noticed this too this year. Out of the 4 years I have been, this year there was more garbage that was left on the ground during shows and then a ton at the camp. I told my buddy I was with that if I wouldn't look like a straight bum and I knew I wouldn't catch anything that I would have gone through the garbage and checked out the hundreds of tents,chairs, ez-ups, grills, tables and other random things that people leave.
I'm an Eagle scout. A bunch of the people I with worked with me at a scout camp for years. We went through 12 cases of PBR, grilled enough food to feed a small army, and ingested enough party favors to make a couple of elephants dance, and yet we didn't leave any trash when we left.
The 9 of us ended up staying Monday for an extra couple of hours, wandering around our campsite with a couple of other random people we had met, picking up nuts that people had left and bagging it.
I was always taught to leave it cleaner then you found it. That's not really that hard of an expectation.
My friend who is volunteering is a Eagle Scout as well (much respect). I agree, if everyone that camps ANYWHERE left the area cleaner than when they arrive, there would be a lot less wear & tear on the places we all love to go and a lot more work actually done on things better than just policing trash. Thanks for your efforts throughout scouting and at Bonnaroo.
Post by christinapeacock on Jun 16, 2009 18:23:31 GMT -5
Yeah, we had some of the sloppiest, most inconsiderate neighbors ever in all my 'roo experiences. I don't think they went to a single show, all they did was blare bad music, smoke and throw beer cans on the ground. I was horrified on Monday when I woke up and saw the mountain of trash they left. Just piles of random junk.
Somehow our little square of earth was still green when we packed up. Butts, cans and all. I don't think I had enough bags to pickup all the crap I saw scattered about. Very discouraging.
Post by christinapeacock on Jun 16, 2009 18:25:12 GMT -5
Oh, and as a side note: we brought these really sweet folding lounge chairs - and knowing they'd be a target - we handcuffed them to a well-driven stake screwed in the ground. Sometimes, ya gotta prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.
Our area was pretty good on Monday, we were right off of Bushy Branch, and everyone around us took care of their stuff. As far as Centeroo goes, I usually try to clean up the area around me, and I don't leave butts. I know some of the glowie stuff I brought can leave a mess, however I donate 50 bucks a year or so to clean vibes, I figure that helps offset the minimal mess I make.
We heard at volunteer orientation that apparently there are locals who are quite infamous for coming in on trucks/4wheelers the last day and swiping stuff. So it could've been that. Apparently there are also gangs that come through and steal stuff as well. I think it's more likely that than a random "skeevy hippie".
Thats messed up, I'm a local and this was my 6th one....I know tons of people that live in the area....Thats a total bullshit assumption ..
Our area was pretty good on Monday, we were right off of Bushy Branch, and everyone around us took care of their stuff. As far as Centeroo goes, I usually try to clean up the area around me, and I don't leave butts. I know some of the glowie stuff I brought can leave a mess, however I donate 50 bucks a year or so to clean vibes, I figure that helps offset the minimal mess I make.
Our group did the same...but I didn't know you could or how to donate to clean vibes..because this was my first roo..what is the proper way to donate to clean vibes..at roo somewhere..etc..?
We heard at volunteer orientation that apparently there are locals who are quite infamous for coming in on trucks/4wheelers the last day and swiping stuff. So it could've been that. Apparently there are also gangs that come through and steal stuff as well. I think it's more likely that than a random "skeevy hippie".
Thats messed up, I'm a local and this was my 6th one....I know tons of people that live in the area....Thats a total bullhonkey brah assumption ..
Obviously there is some truth to that or else the Bonnaroo volunteer coordinaters would not have warned people about it.
Our area was pretty good on Monday, we were right off of Bushy Branch, and everyone around us took care of their stuff. As far as Centeroo goes, I usually try to clean up the area around me, and I don't leave butts. I know some of the glowie stuff I brought can leave a mess, however I donate 50 bucks a year or so to clean vibes, I figure that helps offset the minimal mess I make.
Our group did the same...but I didn't know you could or how to donate to clean vibes..because this was my first roo..what is the proper way to donate to clean vibes..at roo somewhere..etc..?
Just find them at a festival they do all the major ones, or just pick up some merch from them.
I was appalled after Snoop Dog - we were sitting waiting on Phish when the crowd started thinning out after Snoop and the amount of trash just amazed me and I did not see a single person even making an effort. Actually watched several people just throw their trash on the ground.
As for the campsites - those amazed me as well - when we left - you would not have been able to tell we had been there because we picked everything up - butts, trash, bottles, etc., bagged it and took the bag to the road as asked. It didn't take but a few extra minutes
Post by Britney's_Fears on Jun 16, 2009 20:22:32 GMT -5
I can't change what anyone else does, all I can do is try to be the change I wish to see. I put all of my empties in my big cargo pockets and threw them away after the show. I didn't even throw butts on the ground.
