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ohh okay.. that's still the most disturbing part of this whole thing.. Poor guy was alone, in a tent, in an empty field. It's still all quite unnerving to me.
If it is the latter rather than the former I would not even mess with talking to them, I would just find a guy on a horse and quietly let them know.
I thought the horse was the problem.
and I'm confused why yr worried about stepping on needles when you've never seen one at Roo, or why you assume someone who's smacked out at Roo would be a thief. In fact, Why would someone using heroin have to be shooting it? There are other routes of administration.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
If it is the latter rather than the former I would not even mess with talking to them, I would just find a guy on a horse and quietly let them know.
I thought the horse was the problem.
and I'm confused why yr worried about stepping on needles when you've never seen one at Roo, or why you assume someone who's smacked out at Roo would be a thief. In fact, Why would someone using heroin have to be shooting it? There are other routes of administration.
Never seen it at Bonnaroo does not mean, I have never seen it anywhere man. Phish tour in the 90's was on occasion a scary place to be. Like I said if neighbors are causing enough of a problem you are scared just do not be afraid to alert someone in authority. If you had quoted my whole post instead of an excerpt you would see I was talking about an example, not something I expect to find at 'roo.
obviously.. but from what I've gathered through articles and comments in this thread, the thought of his death and everything that took place up until his passing, is a very discomforting thought.. and the fact that he was in his twenties and alone during his last few breaths, just doesn't seem right to me.
pretty much most heroin addicts become thieves when it they run out of money and all other options are exhausted, they do though become diff levels of thieves based on their personalities. Some just rob their family and friends, other rob family friends and engage in crimes of oppertunity and other just steal from anyone and everyone they can but they all become thieves at some point.
hahaha... Radiohead brings the strangest crowd to a festival
But seriously that is absolutely nuts. I don't think I ever would've expected to see that anywhere I go. I can agree that if someone's business is resulting in a dangerous area for me then I might feel the need to report them or wait until it appears everyone there is soberish and ask if they don't mind cleaning up the area a bit, but I've never even seen one needle lying on the ground ever at any festival so I guess I just find it hard to imagine ever happening. I'm sure it does though
In all fairness I was pretty naive about that stuff back then. It took a friend from a more rural county to explain why they had brought a rig to deep fry a turkey that smelled like a janitors closet to Bonnaroo.
pretty much most heroin addicts become thieves when it they run out of money and all other options are exhausted, they do though become diff levels of thieves based on their personalities. Some just rob their family and friends, other rob family friends and engage in crimes of oppertunity and other just steal from anyone and everyone they can but they all become thieves at some point.
Word, this pretty much matches my personal experience as well. I have never really known any bad meth addicts, but I have been given to understand the principal is the same.
Some dude was selling needles in the line to get into Centeroo on Saturday morning. I wanted to punch him in the face, but remembered we weren't at Coachella
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^Was he selling or exchanging, honestly I am glad when folks who do that have access to clean needles. It lessens the chance of me catching something if I accidentally get stuck by one. Of course if they have a low supply they are less likely to leave them lying around...
Selling. it's true that it's good for there to be clean needles, but the whole principle behind it is what makes me so mad. I'd like to think he was selling them to diabetics who didn't bring enough or something...
Some just rob their family and friends, other rob family friends and engage in crimes of oppertunity and other just steal from anyone and everyone they can but they all become thieves at some point.
Nice blanket statement. I guess I was a thief and didn't even know it.
I'm well aware of the cycles of addiction and that some people are driven to steal to support habits, but this isn't exclusive to H or any drug. I seriously doubt the guy who ransaked my buddy's tent for a jar of corn this year did so because he was a strungout junkie. Assuming someone who uses a certian chemical must be or eventually will be a thief is just ignorant.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
I have an uncle who was a heroin addict. Beautifully nice guy sober, but a completely different person when strung out on heroin. Stole from family, friends, and strangers. When used habitually, opiates drive a person to continue seeking the drug at all cost. To me it's sad if this element invades roo.
Someone said something to me awhile ago on the subject to me that I felt was pretty profound. We were walking around a festival and heard in the periphery some kind of weird sounding meth deal go down. I was alarmed at the time, and said something along those lines to this guy who is quite a bit older and more experienced to me.
He said "Really don't worry if that stuff is around here, those guys are harmless mainly, now if it runs out before the weekend, then we might have a problem on our hands." This is mainly true of any addict, but even more so for people addicted to drugs that cause strong cravings and withdrawals. Like Lakai said at some point they wont have access to what they want, and they will damn well do whatever is necessary to get it. Im sorry but if you have an addiction that makes you physically ill if you don't have it, you will be surprised what you will do to get it.
The only kind of collateral Bonnaroo gets (and this may be different for Clean Vibes) is a $250 deposit up front. If you don't work your shifts, you just lose the deposit and become a paying patron
Clean Vibes is the same, you pay $250 and you get it back after your shifts are over.
I was working on Green Team with Clean Vibes on Tuesday when someone on the Purple Team found them. I think we were taking a break to drink some water when a girl there got the news from twitter on her phone. Very sad.
Some just rob their family and friends, other rob family friends and engage in crimes of oppertunity and other just steal from anyone and everyone they can but they all become thieves at some point.
Nice blanket statement. I guess I was a thief and didn't even know it.
I'm well aware of the cycles of addiction and that some people are driven to steal to support habits, but this isn't exclusive to H or any NO NO WORD!!!. I seriously doubt the guy who ransaked my buddy's tent for a jar of corn this year did so because he was a strungout junkie. Assuming someone who uses a certian chemical must be or eventually will be a thief is just ignorant.
Pretty much most ignorance begets ignorance in a time when all we need is communication and knowledge. Now I know you know not every addict is like this, but I think you would be surprised to see how many addicts can conduct themselves in a decent manner. Every person is a slave to their condition and their situation. For any of us to pass judgment on someone because of these variables is sad. I'm sorry, but these people should be treated just as those who may camp across from you selling green, until they give you a reason to feel otherwise towards them. Be kind
maybe I wasnt clear, if someone lets their disease progress with out ever seeking help eventually they will more likely than not turn into a theif at some point. At some point they will lose everything and have no where left to turn and they will either die or become a thief of some form. I dont see how its ignorant to say that I have seen it happen to friends, family, and the addicts in the rehab I went to, infact those very addicts are the ones who explained it to me.
Post by myscatterheart on Jun 22, 2009 17:04:18 GMT -5
You have one line of thinking, and I subscribe to another. However, if you can't see that labeling someone as a thief before they've stolen anything as ignorance, then I'm afraid there's no hope;) Believe me, I know the story line as well and how it all runs its ugly course...but that doesn't mean we need to unnecessarily oppress people that have done nothing wrong.
I don't think its ignorant at all in fact I would bet that every addict living on the streets right now has stolen something at some point. And I'm all I'm saying is if an addict doesnt get help and lets their disease take over their life completely it will happen, not people who eventually get help. but whatever we will never agree on this one I guess
Post by goodgrrl27 on Jun 22, 2009 22:23:56 GMT -5
This whole conversation is a tough one that no one will ever agree on, in my opinion.
I think I must have a unique situation from what I have read on here- I know people that did or still do H occasionally who are not addicted, aren't sketchy and who do not steal. So clearly it is possible to do it without being an addict.
This whole conversation is a tough one that no one will ever agree on, in my opinion.
I think I must have a unique situation from what I have read on here- I know people that did or still do H occasionally who are not addicted, aren't sketchy and who do not steal. So clearly it is possible to do it without being an addict.
maybe, but how long have they been doing it for? I guess I am referring to people who have become full blown addicts, I mean my cousin did H occasionally prob for about 5 years before he started to get really bad with it.
maybe I wasnt clear, if someone lets their disease progress with out ever seeking help eventually they will more likely than not turn into a theif at some point. At some point they will lose everything and have no where left to turn and they will either die or become a thief of some form. I dont see how its ignorant to say that I have seen it happen to friends, family, and the addicts in the rehab I went to, infact those very addicts are the ones who explained it to me.
True word for word, after living in Meff country and seeing everyone around me get sucked into this crap, both m and h, the variables of their addictions only varied slightly until hitting bottom. When they're up they're up, but when they're not, they will get their stuff, robbing, prostitution, selling fake, whatever they have to do. Not saying there aren't some people who can handle their stuff, but if they don't stop they all end up in the same place.
Post by questionablesanity on Jun 23, 2009 8:46:50 GMT -5
I was at work last night and oe of the nurses had to leave work and go to Texas because of a family situation. Her 18 year old son just returned from Iraq to find his wife had cleaned out 25k from their bank account and shot it up her arm. He spent all that time in Iraq and has nothing to show for it. Worst of all is that they have a baby. Who the hell was watching this child when mom was shooting all that dope?
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I was at work last night and oe of the nurses had to leave work and go to Texas because of a family situation. Her 18 year old son just returned from Iraq to find his wife had cleaned out 25k from their bank account and shot it up her arm. He spent all that time in Iraq and has nothing to show for it. Worst of all is that they have a baby. Who the hell was watching this child when mom was shooting all that dope?
That is really sad. That stuff can get really ugly very fast. I once upon a time dated someone that had a problem with H and he was a trainwreck.
I feel sorry for this guys family. Being a mother I could never fathom losing my son.
This whole conversation is a tough one that no one will ever agree on, in my opinion.
I think I must have a unique situation from what I have read on here- I know people that did or still do H occasionally who are not addicted, aren't sketchy and who do not steal. So clearly it is possible to do it without being an addict.
maybe, but how long have they been doing it for? I guess I am referring to people who have become full blown addicts, I mean my cousin did H occasionally prob for about 5 years before he started to get really bad with it.
The people I know that still do it are a couple, and have been doing H the past few years I have known them. They use it for what they term "special occasions." I know they do it some times while at festivals, and on each others birthdays. I was pretty surprised to hear they did it at all because the potential for physical addiction is a pretty scary thought!