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I agree that the paved walk would be nice, but... This is bonnaroo and it's called "the farm" the great thing about it is it has no pavement. Plus, aren't there livestock on the land most of the time?
I also think that if you are camping next to your vehicle, take the time and money and get a car charger for your phone or even a converter which you can plug in anything. Save you a lot of time and stress in line. Now for the people that are in tent only and things like that, I would be complaining too.
Those are some awesome ideas. They should hire you for consulting or something. What sense does it make to have the Which stage closed on Thursday, when Passion Pit could have easily filled the crowd at that stage?
Thanks! I would love, love, LOVE a job with Bonnaroo/AC/Superfly ...I'm looking for a job, I'm in Nashville, just have to figure out how...
Post by areyoukind on Jun 17, 2009 22:14:22 GMT -5
phish was the only reason I went... I've been a few times before and its just too big for me. too expensive and you only get to see AT MOST 1/8 of the music played on the farm. I really hope that Phish comes back, because thats the only way I am....
*i like coconuts, you can break them open they smell like ladies lyin in the sun** *Hell I don't even know where I am** *for now I must sit here and ponder the yonder: The herbivores did well cause their food didn't never run** *We listen, if it feels good We shake** *You made a big impression for a girl of your size, Now I can't get by without you and your big brown eyes.**
Post by questionablesanity on Jun 17, 2009 22:26:04 GMT -5
I mainly went for Phish but I enjoyed the smaller tent shows more than anything. It hate to miss so much but I guess that's part of it, maybe even be a strategic move by ac/sup. I had the time of my life but I was exhausted by the time Phish came on both nights. I listened to it all, but I was dead on my feet. We made too many trips back to the car from tent only. I don't know if I'll go back but I may go to Rothbury
A Thieve's Parade 2/24 Conspirator 2/26 Kevin Smith 3/11 Keller 3/17 Papadosio 3/18 JJ Grey 3/25 Bela Fleck/Edgar Meyer 3/26 Toubab Krewe 3/27 O'Death 4/11 Budos Band 4/22 EOTO 4/28 Summer Camp 5/6-29 All Good
Have traffic/any information on radio bonnaroo. Only info I heard was a weather report at the checkpoint after 9+ hours on the highway/backroads, and tow truck numbers on the way out.
I would like to see a pod northeast of the lake. I was on the northeast edge of "Camp David Wooderson", and man it was a LONG way to the nearest pod. I didn't even really mind the long walk to centeroo, but carrying water from the pod back to camp got heavy quick. It was roughly a 15-20 minute walk. Also, because the pod behind the lake had to serve such a huge area, the lines for water there were always massive. I'd settle for just having closer sinks and no other pod services.
Also, things were rather confusing because the pod on the map labeled as pod 9 was flying a balloon that said 11 on it. This made it very hard to give people directions to meet each other.
Post by hibouxdufromage on Jun 18, 2009 4:26:01 GMT -5
Please have as many schedules as tickets sold next year. The very easiest logistical aspect of the entire festival was a complete fumble this year. We had one schedule for 9 people, and that was only because a buddy in VIP gave us his.
Post by groovy_uv802 on Jun 18, 2009 5:14:31 GMT -5
I am an architect and to comment on this thread is really hard because usually i get paid for these services. But some of the comments everyone is suggesting are good, but not that practical or economical. Like more screens means more camera means more people needed to operate them means tickets cost more. More water stations would require a nuts load of infrastructure work and cost a lot of time and money.
As for the mud, there are simple ways they can solve this, like the transfer between which and what stage should have gravel where that trough of mud is created instead of two concrete tiny slaps that all the sheep have to be funneled on to.
I also agree that sound on some of the shows that where not on the what stage needed improvement, some were to soft and some just had the balance way the quack off.
Also not everyone can have a late night, i wish wish wish animal collective, TMV(although i loved there time slot), of motreal just to name a few got less attendance and less favorable review because of there time slot. To bad we can not make roo into a week long dusk till dawn festival and have everyone sleep from like 10am to 4pm (but of course it would be to hott to sleep).
I think also the general layout of roo could be improved, but at this point its organization and map has become iconic and to change it would mess up all the veteran Rooers.
the post with the shade sails is the best idea i have seen on here, and the person who commented that passion pit could have filled which stage is wrong. Passion pit was only alright and no where near known well enough to deserve that kinda slot.
Thats good for now sorry for the sprawl, but tough thread for an architect.
I am an architect and to comment on this thread is really hard because usually i get paid for these services. But some of the comments everyone is suggesting are good, but not that practical or economical. Like more screens means more camera means more people needed to operate them means tickets cost more.
Every show I attended at the main stages or in the 3 main tents had at least 2 cameramen working. Even the late night Thursday shows. I'm sure they were filming for the DVD, FUSE, Bonnaroo 365, or just in general to document this years fest.......but the point i'm trying to make is that they already are paying for the people working the cameras. If they've already got cameramen and production booth guys talking to them through headsets working.......why not add screens to the Which stage. I don't think that it would take too much or cause a large rise in ticket prices. Even if they added the screens and gave the bands the option of a.) we film you so more people can see or b.) you supply your own visuals that you want us to play on the screens - it would still be better than having no screens on the second biggest stage.
Post by dogfighter28 on Jun 18, 2009 9:57:20 GMT -5
First of all, cut the grass everywhere, so if you get put in BFE your legs don't fucking swell.
Also, prepare adequately to give everyone a map and a schedule. We were told everywhere that they "weren't allowed" to give us one.
Put ONE screen on the which stage, where everyone can see it. Any more and it becomes less intimate. The tents don't need a screen.
A special taxi route would be awesome. You know, like, that road that is only used for deliveries? Have another path like that where people are not allowed to walk, and only taxis may pass through. I would pay 5 dollars every time for that.
Having more than two exits would be a plus, so post-headliner leaving doesn't take an hour.
I am an architect and to comment on this thread is really hard because usually i get paid for these services. But some of the comments everyone is suggesting are good, but not that practical or economical. Like more screens means more camera means more people needed to operate them means tickets cost more.
Every show I attended at the main stages or in the 3 main tents had at least 2 cameramen working. Even the late night Thursday shows. I'm sure they were filming for the DVD, FUSE, Bonnaroo 365, or just in general to document this years fest.......but the point i'm trying to make is that they already are paying for the people working the cameras. If they've already got cameramen and production booth guys talking to them through headsets working.......why not add screens to the Which stage. I don't think that it would take too much or cause a large rise in ticket prices. Even if they added the screens and gave the bands the option of a.) we film you so more people can see or b.) you supply your own visuals that you want us to play on the screens - it would still be better than having no screens on the second biggest stage.
they spent lots of cash on the new this/that/other stage signs, removed the useful scrolling band name signs and replaced them with individual signs that were small and hard to read.
all that cash would have been a nice portion of a screen on the which stage....
More water stations would require a nuts load of infrastructure work and cost a lot of time and money.
My only comparison is 2007 -- they had a crap ton more water stations. Even in BFE, i'd walk past 2 just to get to shakedown.
the trough systems they used were serviced by giant water trucks / reclamation tanks and required no permanent infrastructure.
of course, putting more would cost more, but a half hour walk one-way to the closest water source for 10,000+ people is ridiculous. I just want them to have maintained what was provided in the past.
I hear this alot, about the grass being too high. The reason they leave it long is so that it doesn't get too muddy. If the grass had been cut really short we would have had some major mud problems this year. I prefer long grass to falling on my ass in slippery mud.
Handle the volunteer situation better. Communicate with security better, so that everyone is on the same page. More water stations in the campgrounds. More options for cell phone charging that don't result in unwittingly signing up for text messages from Fuse. I kept texting stop and they never stopped. I got one yesterday, in fact. Stupid.
My first 'roo was 07 so obviously I didn't deal with any mud then, which was great. This year I got to experience what a muddyroo is like, and this was fairly mild - if it had kept raining the way it did Thursday and Thursday night the mud would have been ridiculous. So something to help with the mud would be great. I don't know what it would be....I don't think I want to see paved walkways, but maybe there's something they could do. They tried throwing down a ton of hay this year which just made it work in my opinion. The hay just masked the mud so you'd pick up a good place to put your foot and then SPLOOSH, your foot sinks in about 5 inches and the mud comes up through the hay and soaks you anyway.
And I agree that the old signs that used to tell you what bands were coming up were nice. I really like the new neon signs on the tents, so I think they should just add a row of LEDs under them so they could have a scrolling sign that would list the rest of the shows for that day with times. It doesn't seem like that would be terribly expensive or difficult to implement and it would be quite helpful.
Oh God!! The hay! That Hay is responsible for the Bonnaflu I am fighting! Stupid, stupid hay! I am still having nightmares of the rank funk@$$ smell that emanated from they hay on shakedown. It was crazy...it looked like solid hay that you could walk on but when you stepped on it it was like quicksand.
Sand in This and The Other. The only tent that was not flooded was That Tent and it was the only one with a sand floor. I saw that they dumped a pile of sand in This Tent which basically led to Mt. Sand and was immediately colonized but it would probably be more effective if spread around.
Screens at Which. There has to be some reason that we can't fathom because it is the most frequent improvement cited here.
Increase the planked walkways from BFE. It's like they ran out of time and just stopped, leading to walkways ending in giant mud paths and dramatically slowing the flow.
Loved, loved, loved the taxis. Used them to get home from late nights and so worth the $5. Didn't mind the trip to the taxi station and never had to wait. While I agree that a taxi-only path would be much quicker, it's just not practical. Let's face it -- if there's somewhere for Rooers to walk, they will. E.g., the roadways that are only for vehicles were more frequently used by walkers than the grassy (okay, muddy) areas next to them. That said, props to the volunteers and horse cops for not being complete roadway nazis this year like they were in years past.
I like the neon stage signs but did not like the individual artist signs at the stages. Keep the neon signs and return the marquees. They were good for organizing photos an knowing who's playing where.
Raise the stages a few feet to improve sight lines, especially the Troo Music Lounge. Loved the new layout there, the only people that could see anything were the frong row.
I think that removing the beer stand in the middle of Which won't do anything because it's just built right behind the soundboard, right? You'll just be looking at something new.
Shame on whoever complained about the food. I would love the variety and the prices there to be available at home. And I really wish that I had regular access to I Heart Spicy Pie!!! Awesome-ass pizza!!!
Smaller sections in the Cinema Tent so that it is easier to get in and out without climbing over everyone else, especially mid-screening.
Yes to screens at the Which stage. Those new signs telling you who was playing were awful. Make them bigger and readable! Raising all of the stages would be great for visibility, but for sure the What stage and many of the tents.
Post by ChrisIronsArt on Jun 19, 2009 1:13:57 GMT -5
-Better Drainage = Less Mud -More DRINKABLE water stations -Make Centeroo larger and add a third entrance. Which stage needs WAY more space and two screens -Each tent should have a screen somewhere where people can watch from the lawn and That tent needs more space too -There needs to be crazy lights and sculptures everywhere at bonnaroo and it needs to look more like a carnival with more colors and blinking lights. All the tents should look like the comedy tent
I was walking down towards the fence on the VIP mound and noticed a few bills stuck beside one of the lawn chairs. I turned to the people sitting just one row back and I said, "Did you guys see who left this here?" They said, "Oh! They just stepped away, but I guess it's yours now." I said, "No, if they just stepped away, they will proabably be back in just a sec, I'll leave it here, they'll come back for it." I turned to keep walking and hear behind me, "Quick! Grab it before they come back!"
Post by dogfighter28 on Jun 19, 2009 9:13:56 GMT -5
Almost forgot:
Comedy Tent. Get your shit together! I asked everyone how to get a ticket, and no one knew! Finally got someone to tell me to walk through the winding gated line, and then found out the ticket I wanted was sold out. The girl who was selling them was not even there for like an hour!
Comedy Tent. Get your nuts together! I asked everyone how to get a ticket, and no one knew! Finally got someone to tell me to walk through the winding gated line, and then found out the ticket I wanted was sold out. The girl who was selling them was not even there for like an hour!
I had quite an easy time with the comedy tent. Saw two shows, everyone was knowledgeable when I had questions, and got a bunch of free ice cream and butterfingers. Really good time.
Sounds like you got a crappy shift or something. I went right up to the guy with a stack of tickets/passes and asked him if they were for the comedy show I wanted - he said yea and I got in the windy line quick and got a ticket.
You gotta get there pretty early I guess but I had no problems at all with the comedy tent.
Post by bobbyzzzcar on Jun 19, 2009 10:36:17 GMT -5
I own a small farm in a hilly area of Illinois with some bottom ground that used to get real MUDDY and SOUPY wet. Over the years we continue to spread gravel over these areas and it eventually works in and makes the ground hard and not muddy and allows the water to still move to where it needs to go. Eventually grass ends up growing over it and the livestock can still feed on it when the festival isnt there. This would only need to be done in the major walkways where this is a problem and at little expense to organizers. THIS IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION THAT WILL WORK!
But nothing really bothered me...I had a great time!
as the architect said, it was kinda lame that they only put two 6 ft wide concrete walkways over the ditch from what stage > which stage. everyone was funnelled into those tiny walkways, because your only other option was to go through 10 - 15 feet of mucky muck. speaking of mucky muck, my next suggestion is to get tenacious d here next year. that is all
My first 'roo was 07 so obviously I didn't deal with any mud then, which was great. This year I got to experience what a muddyroo is like, and this was fairly mild - if it had kept raining the way it did Thursday and Thursday night the mud would have been ridiculous. So something to help with the mud would be great. I don't know what it would be....I don't think I want to see paved walkways, but maybe there's something they could do. They tried throwing down a ton of hay this year which just made it work in my opinion. The hay just masked the mud so you'd pick up a good place to put your foot and then SPLOOSH, your foot sinks in about 5 inches and the mud comes up through the hay and soaks you anyway.
And I agree that the old signs that used to tell you what bands were coming up were nice. I really like the new neon signs on the tents, so I think they should just add a row of LEDs under them so they could have a scrolling sign that would list the rest of the shows for that day with times. It doesn't seem like that would be terribly expensive or difficult to implement and it would be quite helpful.
Well to make matters worse...did you see on Friday morning the trucks that were WATERING the paths?! It was already muddy and they added even more water to it! I assume it was to prevent dust...but there was NO fear of dust at that point yet. Later that night (i think) it rained again and the shakedown road got even worse. What the hell were they thinking? It made me so so so so angry. It was finally starting to dry a bit and then BOOM - water trucks.
I had a great time overall, and not much phased me except this. It seriously made my blood boil.
Well to make matters worse...did you see on Friday morning the trucks that were WATERING the paths?!
In their defense, those water trucks have something in them besides just water. In 08 I was in Centeroo freakishly early one AM. The trucks were watering the roads and they asked I not step on them. They said it was a mixture, that when put down, binds the dirt and keeps it from making a dust storm. So even though it rains, when it dries it makes dust. They were trying to control that.
Well to make matters worse...did you see on Friday morning the trucks that were WATERING the paths?!
In their defense, those water trucks have something in them besides just water. In 08 I was in Centeroo freakishly early one AM. The trucks were watering the roads and they asked I not step on them. They said it was a mixture, that when put down, binds the dirt and keeps it from making a dust storm. So even though it rains, when it dries it makes dust. They were trying to control that.
Still not fun to step in I agree.
This was maybe at 5pm with tons of people on the roads... Not sure it was the same thing... but maybe? The whole point is that the mud JUST started to, barely subside...and they made it even worse. I understand if it was getting hard and starting to dry out...but that wasn't the case. It was soggy and they made it even soggier and then the rain came and made it even more muddy!