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OP probably got hassled for glow sticks and party favors. My main issue with this "letter" is the misinformation about being 30 minutes from medical care. No one is 30 minutes from medical care at Roo. If you need emergency assistance you are at least shouting distance from someone who can get you a golf cart in about ten minutes or less. In BFE, you are a few minutes from the field hospital on foot. The stuff in the rant is presented as hard facts, when it isn't. To my knowledge, you can't bruise ovarian cysts, but I'm not familiar with every single type. If she has blood cysts and one ruptured, she may need to see a doctor.
Anyway, I'm always sorry to hear about people having a bad time at Roo, but this "letter" is totally useless without any evidence of its truth. If it's true, then I'm sincerely sorry and I hope you both can recover and move on in peace. If it isn't (as in, facts that have been greatly exaggerated because you have a sense of entitlement to do whatever the eff you want at Roo and someone told you for once that you couldn't), then you're a douche and I'm glad you won't be at Roo anymore.
Wow..I'm glad people care if people's rights are abused. I too ran into problems with security and found them to be rude and abusive. I think the OP did the right thing in sending letters to media outlets and Bonnaroo. Buying a ticket to a festival does not nullify your constitutional rights. I'm in the process of drafting a letter that I plan to send to all major newspapers and TV media outlets discussing the abuses by Bonnaroo security and the general lawlessness that goes on there by people in positions of power.
Wow..I'm glad people care if people's rights are abused. I too ran into problems with security and found them to be rude and abusive. I think the OP did the right thing in sending letters to media outlets and Bonnaroo. Buying a ticket to a festival does not nullify your constitutional rights. I'm in the process of drafting a letter that I plan to send to all major newspapers and TV media outlets discussing the abuses by Bonnaroo security and the general lawlessness that goes on there by people in positions of power.
I would like to know what you consider rude and abusive and what you were hassled about. Hell why dont you include the general lawlessness that goes on not only by people in positions of power but also by festival goers that think they are exempt from the actual LAWS that exist. By buying a ticket and entering the farm you are conceding to searches, pat downs, pulling everything out of your pockets/car. Its gonna take alot more than 2 letters out of 85,000 people for the media outlets to care. You have pics of the abuse? Video? Witness accounts?
Wow..I'm glad people care if people's rights are abused. I too ran into problems with security and found them to be rude and abusive. I think the OP did the right thing in sending letters to media outlets and Bonnaroo. Buying a ticket to a festival does not nullify your constitutional rights. I'm in the process of drafting a letter that I plan to send to all major newspapers and TV media outlets discussing the abuses by Bonnaroo security and the general lawlessness that goes on there by people in positions of power.
What did someone take your beef jerky and glowsticks as well?
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Post by Britney's_Fears on Jun 17, 2009 11:38:30 GMT -5
With all of the injustice in the world, starving and homeless children right here in America, the rape of Darfar and other atrocities in Africa, the erosion of personal freedom and liberty here in America, don't you think you could find a much better and worthwhile cause to champion?
Wow - just wow. I really thought this year was the most laz year I have been.
We rolled through the toll booths in an RV - dude came up - asked "Got any glass?" we told him no and he said cool - waved us on - never even looked in the RV
No problems with searches at the entrances to Centeroo either.
edited to add: I even asked Boz on Sunday if there were as many redshirts as normal because I feel like I hardly saw any of them all weekend.
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Post by Britney's_Fears on Jun 17, 2009 12:24:41 GMT -5
My whole experience with security and police was very good. The TN police only seemed interested in controling the traffic. Never once did I feel like I was in danger of being pulled over and searched.
Entering the farm the guy only looked in my cooler and asked my permission before doing so.
Entering Centeroo they were a little gung-ho the first night so they went through my pockets. But they never touched me inappropriately or made me feel victimized. By Sunday they were just looking at you and letting you enter.
Wow..I'm glad people care if people's rights are abused. I too ran into problems with security and found them to be rude and abusive. I think the OP did the right thing in sending letters to media outlets and Bonnaroo. Buying a ticket to a festival does not nullify your constitutional rights. I'm in the process of drafting a letter that I plan to send to all major newspapers and TV media outlets discussing the abuses by Bonnaroo security and the general lawlessness that goes on there by people in positions of power.
That is a really lame argument. If there was a problem write bonnaroo. Do it in a manner that is attacking and see what happens. I did and got a positive response. As far as constitutional rights I don't see that any abused by what he said. He didn't have to consent to the search he could have refused. They would have had the right to kick you off their property but you never have to consent to a search by provide security. If they were as physically abusive as you said then you had the right to demand to speak to the supervisor or call the Manchester Police or Coffee County Sheriff and file charges. As wise as you are I am sure you know that calling the police when you are being physically attacked is your constitutional right.
Plus, it is funny people complain about their rights being taken away with all the debauchery that was going it is obvious they were not to oppressive.
Post by kittyblile on Jun 17, 2009 13:55:59 GMT -5
I didn't have a problem with security either. car barely got searched and upon entering Centeroo I would have my camelpack open and empty my pockets, they kinda looked in my pack and just grabbed my pockets to make sure nothing was in them.
Oh the bruised cyst, ain't buying it, way too hard to bruise that without being punched. maybe you guys had a little too much fun in the tent the night before and that bruised it?
I agree with the original post's open letter. All of the people on here denouncing his trying to address the situation are IDIOTS! Just because you had a good time doesn't mean these things couldn't happen to you. I attended the first 4 Bonnaroos and this was my first one since, and it was RADICALLY different. The "Police State" was in full effect. Courtesy and the sense of community are no longer part of the Roo experince. Many small "inconveniences" were laughed off by Bonnaroo staff (Long walks to use water, no schedules/guides). I will never spend my hard earned money on corporation that has little to no respect for their GA ticket holders. Bonnaroo was once the antithesis of all that is wrong in America, it has simply become just like anything else in the USA. The only care is PROFIT. AC Promoters have become no better than Ticketmaster or Live Nation. I will never give them any of money ever agian!
Post by rybread2640 on Jun 17, 2009 17:03:21 GMT -5
My list of brief run-ins with "security" at bonnaroo
Entrance: Staff: "y'all have any ecstasy in here?" Me: "No ma'am." Staff: "Good. I don't care about weed or anything. Just hard stuff. Alright I'm gonna put this circle right here. Means ya'll got searched. Be safe" Me: "Thanks!"
Thursday: Main gate. This was the only day i was mad at security. The guy tapped me down twice, and went through me entire bag and opened every compartment, eyeglass case, water bottle, everything. Confiscated my bowl
Friday: Main gate. Line was so long everyone was just waved through. All we needed to do was put our hands up so they could see our bracelets. As I walked by the staff, I heard on their walkie talkies that they should search everyone because they were finding large amounts of nitrous oxide in centeroo. I lol'd.
Saturday: Side entrance. The guy tapped the bottom of my backpack. Ask if I had drugs. I said no. I went into Centeroo. I collected $200.
Sunday: Main gate. Made me empty my pockets/ looked in my wallet. Little privacy breaching but oh well, didn't have anything on me.
I agree with the original post's open letter. All of the people on here denouncing his trying to address the situation are IDIOTS! Just because you had a good time doesn't mean these things couldn't happen to you. I attended the first 4 Bonnaroos and this was my first one since, and it was RADICALLY different. The "Police State" was in full effect. Courtesy and the sense of community are no longer part of the Roo experince. Many small "inconveniences" were laughed off by Bonnaroo staff (Long walks to use water, no schedules/guides). I will never spend my hard earned money on corporation that has little to no respect for their GA ticket holders. Bonnaroo was once the antithesis of all that is wrong in America, it has simply become just like anything else in the USA. The only care is PROFIT. AC Promoters have become no better than Ticketmaster or Live Nation. I will never give them any of money ever agian!
So I am going to call you out like the OP. What are the specifics of what was done to you that you feel so bad. Were you anally raped with a nightstick with security chanting it is Giuliani time? Or did someone confiscate your beef jerky and glowsticks? No one has yet to give any kind of detailed credible story just random griping. Only on inforoo, and mostly from new posters have I been hearing this crap. Nobody I know personally, and I know a lot of inforoosters has had any complaint. I did whatever I wanted to, wherever I wanted to, and never had a single problem.
If yours are so bad though give us specifics I am sure they keep an eye on this site, but random bitching is not going to get you anywhere. BTW of course they are out to make a profit, you think they are gonna throw something like this and lose money every year. As far as I am concerned people who think everything they enjoy should be free, are a big part of what is wrong with America. Not people who work their behinds off to save up and have a blast at the best place on earth.
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Post by dreamingtree on Jun 17, 2009 17:12:29 GMT -5
Did any of the females here get patted down by a male security person that included the crotch area? My friend and I both did late night on Saturday and were shocked. I emailed Bonnaroo about it because really that was not ok with me.
Only on inforoo, and mostly from new posters have I been hearing this crap. Nobody I know personally, and I know a lot of inforoosters has had any complaint.
Sorry I didn't know that you had to post 10,000 times on a message board to express A VALID OPINION. I better quit my job and get to it!
Only on inforoo, and mostly from new posters have I been hearing this crap. Nobody I know personally, and I know a lot of inforoosters has had any complaint.
Sorry I didn't know that you had to post 10,000 times on a message board to express A VALID OPINION. I better quit my job and get to it!
It's not even that you haven't posted a lot. There were more water stations than ever there and they gave you a schedule guide RIGHT as you entered the gates. Plus, even if you lost your guide, walk like 15 feet look on the ground and chances are you'd find someone else's laying around.
Did any of the females here get patted down by a male security person that included the crotch area? My friend and I both did late night on Saturday and were shocked. I emailed Bonnaroo about it because really that was not ok with me.
What? That is outrageous. Wow, I'm so sorry that happened to you.
Did any of the females here get patted down by a male security person that included the crotch area? My friend and I both did late night on Saturday and were shocked. I emailed Bonnaroo about it because really that was not ok with me.
I got patted in the crotch a couple times, but nothing totally unusual. It's good you wrote them though. Sometimes security guards are creeps but sometimes they just don't know better. Hopefully you'll get an apology.
Only on inforoo, and mostly from new posters have I been hearing this crap. Nobody I know personally, and I know a lot of inforoosters has had any complaint.
Sorry I didn't know that you had to post 10,000 times on a message board to express A VALID OPINION. I better quit my job and get to it!
Actually it is that your very first post runs opposite of what everyone else on here who has posted before is saying. I count the opinions of people I know a lot more than someone who just shows up. Sorry dude, hell for all we know you are a spy from AEG or Madison house who is just mad because all the Rothbury stuff you put up got ripped down. I say it again give specifics or shut up about it.
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Did any of the females here get patted down by a male security person that included the crotch area? My friend and I both did late night on Saturday and were shocked. I emailed Bonnaroo about it because really that was not ok with me.
Eek, nope! I mostly wore dresses (and one tutu!) this year so no patdowns. A couple of my dresses did have pockets but they were the really loose type of pockets and it would have been obvious if I had anything in there so they didn't have to check. The one time I went through wearing shorts the guy just kinda patted me around the hips. And that was what I encountered every time in 07 when I was wearing shorts every day.
Only on inforoo, and mostly from new posters have I been hearing this crap. Nobody I know personally, and I know a lot of inforoosters has had any complaint.
Sorry I didn't know that you had to post 10,000 times on a message board to express A VALID OPINION. I better quit my job and get to it!
I agree with the original post's open letter. All of the people on here denouncing his trying to address the situation are IDIOTS! Just because you had a good time doesn't mean these things couldn't happen to you. I attended the first 4 Bonnaroos and this was my first one since, and it was RADICALLY different. The "Police State" was in full effect. Courtesy and the sense of community are no longer part of the Roo experince. Many small "inconveniences" were laughed off by Bonnaroo staff (Long walks to use water, no schedules/guides). I will never spend my hard earned money on corporation that has little to no respect for their GA ticket holders. Bonnaroo was once the antithesis of all that is wrong in America, it has simply become just like anything else in the USA. The only care is PROFIT. AC Promoters have become no better than Ticketmaster or Live Nation. I will never give them any of money ever agian!
Blah blah blah...man I am so f-ing sick of seeing posts from people viewing previous Bonnaroo's through their precious rose colored glasses. I was at those Roo's too my friend, and they were not so different than Bonnaroo today. You just enjoy remembering them as this bohemian utopia where no-no-words were free, and all the wookies smelled like flowers because it allows you to complain about "the man" and how AC has sold out. Their were dicks on the security squad in the early years too, just as their are now. If you didn't ever tangle with them, lucky you...but they were there.
Anyway, someone else already pointed out the fact that is really at the heart of this discussion - you CONSENTED to the search. The literature doesn't say you will subject to a handshake and a friendly pat on the ass, it says you are subject to a FULL SEARCH. You don't get to define what that word means. If it was THAT bad you had the right to complain at that time, or NOT to consent by not getting in line. I'm sorry you apparently somehow wound up with the jerks frisking you every time you went in the gate, but that's the luck of the draw. Bitching to the media doesn't do anything except draw negative attention to the fest. If you want to send your letter, send it to AC...no one in the media is going to give a crap.
To any ladies to go patted in the crotch or chest, I hope you complain because THAT is disgusting, inappropriate and absolutely should NOT go unmentioned.
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How is patting in the crotch not totally unusual? For corn's sake, you're entering Centeroo and not Leavenworth!
I think it's because I have an armadillo in my trousers and they're bi-curious. Or maybe it's just they've been patting people all day and they get careless.
I like to think it's the former.
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In the past they had trough water stations by almost every area of toilets, not a ten minute walk. Second we did not receive a map or schedule upon arrival on Thursday and were told all weekend to keep checking back at the info tent, only to be told on Sunday that there were never any more guides coming!
^So this constitutes an oppressive police state? Did you ever go to high school? Also I could walk from my camp on the far side of Brushy Branch to Centeroo in less than 10 minutes. In that time frame I passed maybe 4 to five water stations. Where were you camped that getting to water was so hard? Maybe you just couldn't find the one close to you. Sorry about the guides I thought everyone had enough so we were using boxes full of them for foot rests in my campsite. Actually I heard a lot of people bought last minute tickets, and the crowd was about ten thousand or more bigger than anticipated. I never ever got to a any festival without printing my own schedule and putting contact paper on it so I do not lose it.
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