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Mafia vote-stacking is apparent enough to me that I have to change my vote yet again. I'm not sure who's doing it, but it's happening... I'm voting Higgi.
Post by GratefulHippie on Jul 21, 2009 23:21:52 GMT -5
i'm open to changing my vote to higgi based on further actions from others. i think the vote-stacking is an excellent point.
however, if we really do think trill was mafia, that would leave only 2 mafia votes. so, how do we know they aren't splitting their votes to make it look like they aren't connected? the townspeople would still greatly outnumber the mafia at this point if we think trill was mafia.
i dunno...just throwing my two cents out there. i still think kel is more suspicious at this point, but as i stated earlier, i'm open to changing my vote if more info comes out.
Kel >>> Higgi>>>>Kel>>>>Higgi Higgi >>> Kel kdogg >>> Kel >>> Higgi>>>Kel>>>>Higgi Jen >>> Kel Bek >>> Higgi Bacon >>> Higgi Handgun >>> Kel Hippie >>> Kel
Post by GratefulHippie on Jul 21, 2009 23:29:38 GMT -5
in the end, i still ask the townspeople to consider who has the most evidence against them. at this point, i still don't see what higgi has said or done to incriminate himself as mafia other than a corned-out mistake, and the fact that he was mafia last round, which means absolutely nothing.
and ftr...i mean this in general terms. i am still open to changing my vote.
in the end, i still ask the townspeople to consider who has the most evidence against them. at this point, i still don't see what higgi has said or done to incriminate himself as mafia other than a corned-out mistake, and the fact that he was mafia last round, which means absolutely nothing.
and ftr...i mean this in general terms. i am still open to changing my vote.
You sure do support Higgi a lot! I am a confused townsperson, but I know I don't trust Higgi.
in the end, i still ask the townspeople to consider who has the most evidence against them. at this point, i still don't see what higgi has said or done to incriminate himself as mafia other than a corned-out mistake, and the fact that he was mafia last round, which means absolutely nothing.
and ftr...i mean this in general terms. i am still open to changing my vote.
You sure do support Higgi a lot! I am a confused townsperson, but I know I don't trust Higgi.
Is this round not ending until 6 PM tomorrow for sure? I forgot I have to go out of town Thursday night and am not sure on the internet situation. I am bringning my laptop but will be at a relative's house and have not found out if they have wireless there. SO.....I can play until the end of tomorrow night. Townspeople....if you don't hear from me by Friday night then you know I have no internet access....if that is the case ya'll can vote me off knowing I was a townsperson. Sorry if that effs the game up. I totally flaked out on that one. I'll let you know more tomorrow.
EDIT: ERM, nevermind. I will be back in town Friday night. I will be gone from Thursday morning to Friday afternoon, possibly without internet but not 100% sure.
i don't know why ya'll think i'm guilty, i've yet to hear any arguments from anyone as to why... and all Kel keeps doing is saying 'i know higgi is guilty, i just know it' without ANY actual basis to that statement? realllly?
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on Jul 22, 2009 3:55:55 GMT -5
you know what I don't understand???
Everyone is all supportive of higgi and his "corned out" mistake but has nobody even considered the high probability that kel was under the same influence when she messed up the vote tally.
I just don't get it... everyone says that nobody has offered any reason as to why higgi is guilty but that's not true... I did.
well well well.... I think I have kept my usual running off at the mouth to a minimum this game but now... I'm gonna let it all hang out.
okay so yes, the mafia has been known to kill off one of their own in the first round but I def do not believe that happened here. I think what we have here is a simple case of vote stacking. When the votes were tied between bill/bacon, higgi said he was voting for bacon but then he typed trill. I do not believe this was an act of corn but a plot to be the last vote... the sway vote, especially if it came down to a situation where he needed to protect himself. Although higgi voted for someone, he was technically the last to vote and sealed the deal to killtrillbill.
This doesn't necessarily mean bacon is mafia... I think if bacon was mafia I would have died last night because I started the initial vote for him and sticked with it because I believe it to be fair but the mafia would probably have put me as a number one suspect as the inspector (which I am not, btw).
I think he played us and tried to confuse us and I don't trust it at all. I have seen people pull shenanigans like this before and everyone rallied against them but everyone seems to be okay with it....except for kel.
I just don't trust it.
superbek>>>>>higgi
not only was there the "corn mistake" but he was also the last person to vote in the day one run off and therefore being the decideing vote on day one. hello!!! NOBOODY finds this suspicious???? c'mon!!
kel is a good player and I really do think she is innocent... very innocent. I know the numbers are in her favor right now but I wish you all would take all this into consideration before you go flip flopping again.
Of course you all will mostly likely accuse me of being in cahoots with kel but trust me, I'm not. I have no loyalities... I am a free independent thinker. I'm not corned out at all right now so I can read the thread pretty clearly. I just don't understand how she looks so guilty... at all actually.
in the end, i still ask the townspeople to consider who has the most evidence against them. at this point, i still don't see what higgi has said or done to incriminate himself as mafia other than a corned-out mistake, and the fact that he was mafia last round, which means absolutely nothing.
and ftr...i mean this in general terms. i am still open to changing my vote.
You sure do support Higgi a lot! I am a confused townsperson, but I know I don't trust Higgi.
Post by handgunhipster on Jul 22, 2009 7:32:45 GMT -5
Vote Tally Higgi: 4 votes Kelaroo: 4 votes
Kel >>> Higgi>>>>Kel>>>>Higgi Higgi >>> Kel kdogg >>> Kel >>> Higgi>>>Kel>>>>Higgi>>>>Null Jen >>> Kel Bek >>> Higgi Bacon >>> Higgi Handgun >>> Kel Hippie >>> Kel Wolf>>>Higgi
Everyone is all supportive of higgi and his "corned out" mistake but has nobody even considered the high probability that kel was under the same influence when she messed up the vote tally.
I just don't get it... everyone says that nobody has offered any reason as to why higgi is guilty but that's not true... I did.
well well well.... I think I have kept my usual running off at the mouth to a minimum this game but now... I'm gonna let it all hang out.
okay so yes, the mafia has been known to kill off one of their own in the first round but I def do not believe that happened here. I think what we have here is a simple case of vote stacking. When the votes were tied between bill/bacon, higgi said he was voting for bacon but then he typed trill. I do not believe this was an act of corn but a plot to be the last vote... the sway vote, especially if it came down to a situation where he needed to protect himself. Although higgi voted for someone, he was technically the last to vote and sealed the deal to killtrillbill.
This doesn't necessarily mean bacon is mafia... I think if bacon was mafia I would have died last night because I started the initial vote for him and sticked with it because I believe it to be fair but the mafia would probably have put me as a number one suspect as the inspector (which I am not, btw).
I think he played us and tried to confuse us and I don't trust it at all. I have seen people pull shenanigans like this before and everyone rallied against them but everyone seems to be okay with it....except for kel.
I just don't trust it.
superbek>>>>>higgi
not only was there the "corn mistake" but he was also the last person to vote in the day one run off and therefore being the decideing vote on day one. hello!!! NOBOODY finds this suspicious???? c'mon!!
kel is a good player and I really do think she is innocent... very innocent. I know the numbers are in her favor right now but I wish you all would take all this into consideration before you go flip flopping again.
Of course you all will mostly likely accuse me of being in cahoots with kel but trust me, I'm not. I have no loyalities... I am a free independent thinker. I'm not corned out at all right now so I can read the thread pretty clearly. I just don't understand how she looks so guilty... at all actually.
If I was trying to be sneaky, does anyone really think I would mess up the vote tally on a vote Kdogg posted. I am not that dumb! It was an honest mistake, and Kdogg is thinking way too into it. Thanks, Bek. I can promise I am innocent. As far as the Mafia we will have to see, but I think getting Higgi voted off is the best plan for now! So, townspeople believe me or not! And Higgi I have offered way more reason then you did as to why I am sooo guilty. "Kel is always Mafiia" that's not good enough for me.
Everyone is all supportive of higgi and his "corned out" mistake but has nobody even considered the high probability that kel was under the same influence when she messed up the vote tally.
hey guys i'm guilty, i just have a GUT feeling about it... good lord.
Trill was mafia, I killed him off with my vote, yes I pulled some shit last game, but lets be honest, the window was wide open and i took complete advantage of it.. This game is a different story with the caliber of players participating..
I am going to go ahead and say I am VERY, VERY innocent too... Kdogg, you buy into a lot of garbage sir. Maybe if I said I was innocent in italics you'd believe me.
Post by GratefulHippie on Jul 22, 2009 11:15:09 GMT -5
so, it's ok for others to feel VERY strongly about their picks without seeming suspicious, but if i am, i'm guilty? not to mention i've said SEVERAL times that i'd be willing to switch my vote if new info came to light.
now i'm just beginning to think the rest of us are being duped. talk about vote-stacking...kel, bek, and kdogg seem to all be pretty adament that those of us who don't agree with them are guilty. i'm thinking that perhaps we DID kill an innocent with trill, and now the mafia are playing us.
i keep my vote for kel, and hope that some of you reconsider, as i think we're all being conned here.
