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Anyone else like me? Raised Catholic but gravitated away from the church?
We could all get together at 'Roo, maybe eat some body & blood! On second thought, that's gross. We'll just drink wine and eat crackers instead! Then we could all feel guilty, fondle some beads and tell ourselves we're going to hell.
I'll be there! But with a sign that reads "Repent now! Or burn in a lake of fire!" That's how I spread the word of dog, uh I mean, God.. Scare tactics and threats!
hey, I was even an altar girl back in the day! twas a nice upbringing with some beautiful teachings involved... but then I opened my eyes. Didn't really dig realizing, amongst other things, that if I ever wanted to be a spiritual guide, my church would turn me away due to lack of penis. So although I respect the church and have undying ties to it because of my family, I chose to relinquish their custody over my spirit and be free ! Cheers to that!
I quite enjoy when people mock my religion, it shows their ignorance, and to site "being raised Catholic" and "finally opening my eyes" as sources of authority on the subject just makes me think that you didnt know anything about the religion to begin with. I dont mind people that stray from the church, but learn about your own faith before you rush to judgment and decide that another one (or none at all) is better.
"They won't break me because the desire for freedom, and the freedom of the Irish people, is in my heart. The day will dawn when all the people of Ireland will have the desire for freedom to show. It is then that we will see the rising of the moon."
Post by weatherbill on May 27, 2007 19:07:30 GMT -5
I was raised in the church too, but found Jesus outside the church. Quite a supernatural encounter. It's sad that the water has been muddied by religion. Gotta go upstream to get to the good stuff..
I quite enjoy when people mock my religion, it shows their ignorance, and to site "being raised Catholic" and "finally opening my eyes" as sources of authority on the subject just makes me think that you didnt know anything about the religion to begin with. I dont mind people that stray from the church, but learn about your own faith before you rush to judgment and decide that another one (or none at all) is better.
Honey, maybe you should have read what I wrote twice before jumping down my throat... I NEVER mocked Catholicism. In fact, I said it was my religion for YEARS as well, and I expressed nothing but good feelings about it.
I never cited myself as "an authority on the subject". However, I was baptized, had my first communion, confirmation, went to sunday school, took cathechism as extracurricular, was part of my church's youth group, was an altar girl, a lector, and a choir girl, and am a Godmother. Our priests are great family friends and were a wonderful influence. I know plenty about the religion as I lived immersed in it.
It is not the values, or the people, or any of the goodness, which I have separated myself from, I still hold those close... and I still pray. I still believe in Jesus, but I also believe in Mohammed, and Sidharta Gautama, and many other ancient prophets who's words and revelations have spawned religions. And the Bible will always be one of the greatest allegories ever written, but you must admit, it HAS been taken way too literally and out of context.
It is the attitude of the Catholic Church as an entity, which in case you didn't know, is much more than a religion. It is pretty much a nation (see Holy See) with a government, whos head is the Pope, complicated diplomatic relations, and representation in the United Nations. It's just not MY nation, and I decided its rules did not fit my lifestyle, if you must know.
I'm sorry to write so much, but I'm utterly surprised at your reaction. Why didn't you quote the part where i called my Catholic upbringing "a nice upbringing with some beautiful teachings involved" (generosity, kindness, tolerance, respect, which are still the basis of my values) or the part where i said "I respect the church and have undying ties to it because of my family"??? These were meant in all honesty, and I think you got paranoid and took it the wrong way.
I usually HATE discussing religion, but I can't stand being called ignorant, so I had to put in my 2 cents. I hope you understand where I'm coming from. If not because you want to, then because its the Christian thing to do.
Anyways, if I do meet you, we can always set fire to some sacred herbs and openly NOT discuss religion.
it does get old when everyday there seems to be "another" thread posted.
yeah i know, just didn't want the person who wrote the thread to feel bad its never nice to read comments saying your threads and posts are "unnecessary". just givin the guy some backup
Just to clear it up, I honestly wasnt directing that at you, and now having re-read your post, my quote was actually just a coincidence, I didnt realize that you had said the exact thing I quoted, I was speaking in generalities.
I realize why you thought I was, but it really wasnt directed at you, and I respect what you have said about the Church.
"They won't break me because the desire for freedom, and the freedom of the Irish people, is in my heart. The day will dawn when all the people of Ireland will have the desire for freedom to show. It is then that we will see the rising of the moon."
^^I understand not wanting anyone to feel bad but it just perpetuates all these threads - I guess I should just ignore them - but it is kinda like driving past a car wreck you just "have" to look, ya know?
^^I understand not wanting anyone to feel bad but it just perpetuates all these threads - I guess I should just ignore them - but it is kinda like driving past a car wreck you just "have" to look, ya know?
haha I agree.
For the most part I dont say much of anything to people about their religion no matter how much I disagree with it, however, when provoked I will defend my own to the death.
"They won't break me because the desire for freedom, and the freedom of the Irish people, is in my heart. The day will dawn when all the people of Ireland will have the desire for freedom to show. It is then that we will see the rising of the moon."
Post by oatmealschnappz on May 27, 2007 22:34:44 GMT -5
The recent influx of religious threads is quite puzzling to me. I don't understand how anyone's faith enters-in to Bonnaroo. These topics only serve to create cliques and start arguments. We are all here to share our love of music, aren't we? Needlessly bringing religion into this board only takes-away from why we are here. Let's focus on what unites us, not what divides us.
The recent influx of religious threads is quite puzzling to me. I don't understand how anyone's faith enters-in to Bonnaroo. These topics only serve to create cliques and start arguments. We are all here to share our love of music, aren't we? Needlessly bringing religion into this board only takes-away from why we are here. Let's focus on what unites us, not what divides us.
Post by mangopositive on May 28, 2007 10:18:43 GMT -5
oatmealschnappz said:
The recent influx of religious threads is quite puzzling to me. I don't understand how anyone's faith enters-in to Bonnaroo. These topics only serve to create cliques and start arguments. We are all here to share our love of music, aren't we? Needlessly bringing religion into this board only takes-away from why we are here. Let's focus on what unites us, not what divides us.
Arguing about religion is not a "Bonnaroo thing". It's an "internet thing". People like to argue on the internet. It's one of the few places we can do so anonymously. Especially with topics like religion. Religion is something the atheist can NEVER talk about in normal life... there is always someone who gets offended.
When we get there, nobody's going to ask anyone what their religion is ('cept those dudes with the signs). We will boogie together when we get there! Until then, WE FIGHT!
Post by ChiefPemperToadWigginsky on May 28, 2007 17:11:54 GMT -5
I'm thinking of starting a thread for other like-minded individuals who also beleive that god is a giant turtle that holds up the earth on its shell. I mean you can't deny that, its provable.
^^I understand not wanting anyone to feel bad but it just perpetuates all these threads - I guess I should just ignore them - but it is kinda like driving past a car wreck you just "have" to look, ya know?
thats BS you shouldnt have to jsut ignore them. they dont fit the guidelines of this section of the message board. they clutter the list of threads with alot of garbage that doesnt really apply to the kind of things that should be disscussed. go to the other tent. or a diff message board. sorry but cmon now.
Post by mphsvoodoo on May 28, 2007 20:13:38 GMT -5
Opps, This damn Wiccan (actually Pagan) is very sorry she started it....for the most part it has been totally taken the wrong way..Oh well, I haven't had much experience with message boards..live and learn! Almost time for Bonnaroo!!!!
I'm thinking of starting a thread for other like-minded individuals who also beleive that god is a giant turtle that holds up the earth on its shell. I mean you can't deny that, its provable.
"A Brief History of Time" fan? Stephen Hawking is the man! I guess I would even consider him my prophet of my religion: Timesters!