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Post by awolfatthedoor on Sept 9, 2009 9:41:37 GMT -5
Yeah I kept my vote for you HGH. I think you're the mafia that from the first round. I was just thinking out loud about EAP possibly being involved with you.
And Yes NTRT I have basically decided you are Mafia #3.
I think Bacon died because of one - if not both - of these things. I'm not certain, and I'm not going to vote until I hear a response from the relevant players.
And Yes NTRT I have basically decided you are Mafia #3.
Dude, that started more than a page of back and forth between me and bacon. if you're just now noticing that comment, then you must have missed the two pages after it where bacon and I talked about it ad nauseum.
And here's a comment from you, kdogg, on page 8:
If I were Mafia, do you really think I'd be dumb enough to whack a player in the middle of a public argument like that? Please
But now you're accusing me of doing that, huh? Honestly, that defense of yours sounds like the kind of defense a guilty person would come up with.
Here's something I noticed last round. Once I voted for bacon, he started to defend himself. I thought his theories about who is mafia had some holes in them, and I said so. But his defenses were solid. That's why I changed my vote to nate, and later stated that I didn't suspect bacon anymore. Bacon's defenses made sense, as they should have, since he was apparently innocent.
Everybody keeps saying you're a good player, kdogg, and I believe them. That's why I find it so weird that when you defended yourself on page 8, there were still lots and lots of holes. I pointed many of them out, and pointed out how you were glossing over important details that might implicate you. The exchange is too long to repost, but it's on page 8, so I'd suggest everyone going back to look at page 8.
I just went back and looked at it, and that's when I saw your defense of
If I were Mafia, do you really think I'd be dumb enough to whack a player in the middle of a public argument like that? Please
That's not the only flimsy defense of yours on page 8, but it's odd that you're now accusing me doing exactly what you said "Please" about.
Bacon's defenses made sense and were comprehensive. Yours either don't make sense, or leave out important details that would make you look guilty.
If I were Mafia, do you really think I'd be dumb enough to whack a player in the middle of a public argument like that? Please
That's not the only flimsy defense of yours on page 8, but it's odd that you're now accusing me doing exactly what you said "Please" about.
Strum wasn't going back and forth with anyone but me. Bacon was accusing EAP, and both you and I questioned his theory/innocence. That's a different situation. We came to the same conclusion, did we not? And you're trying to tell me I'm the only player who had a motive to kill Bacon? I don't think it's that simple.
I don't know whether Nathen was guilty or not. Like I said when I voted for him, he was too quiet for my liking. He was one of two things: 1. Mafia lurking in the shadows. We had been suspicious of quiet ones earlier, no? 2. Townsperson not carrying their weight. The later you wait to get rid of them, the more expensive it costs.
I don't know one way or the other, but I don't like having either of those types around in the later stages of the game. Neither do the Townspeople any good.
Strum wasn't going back and forth with anyone but me. Bacon was accusing EAP, and both you and I questioned his theory/innocence. That's a different situation.
Strum was only indirectly accusing you in his pre-death finale. He was directly accusing HGH, and only said he thought you were working with her. HGH was his primary suspect. And in fact, HGH was the one who later took the heat for strum's death (it was also suggested she was set up). So you weren't the only one -- or even the main one -- to look bad after strum kicked the bucket.
We came to the same conclusion, did we not? And you're trying to tell me I'm the only player who had a motive to kill Bacon? I don't think it's that simple.
I don't remember saying you had any motive to kill bacon. Where did this come from?
And in fact, HGH was the one who later took the heat for strum's death (it was also suggested she was set up).
And I'm the one who omits things that make me look guilty?
BACON suggested HGH was set up. And Bacon got whacked.
So you're saying that the fact bacon said HGH was set up makes me look guilty? Huh? And you're furthermore saying that I omitted the fact that somebody said HGH was set up? You quoted me saying that. How is that an omission?
Post by awolfatthedoor on Sept 9, 2009 19:28:13 GMT -5
Kdogg I have no idea if Higgi is or isn't mafia because he hasn't spoken much this game, so I would rather take the decision out of his hands and vote for someone that looks kinda suspicious. Really outside of HGH and maybe EAP I'm not sure who I think is guilty, but I'm alone in thinking that apparently. I guess I just reacted to the probability of mafia deciding this round and voted too quickly.
Wolf<<<HGH<<<Kdogg<<<Null
I still think that we should talk a lot more about this before we kill.
Kdogg I have no idea if Higgi is or isn't mafia because he hasn't spoken much this game, so I would rather take the decision out of his hands and vote for someone that looks kinda suspicious. Really outside of HGH and maybe EAP I'm not sure who I think is guilty, but I'm alone in thinking that apparently. I guess I just reacted to the probability of mafia deciding this round and voted too quickly.
Wolf<<<HGH<<<Kdogg<<<Null
I still think that we should talk a lot more about this before we kill.
I'll null my vote as a sign of good faith.
Based on what Bacon was saying, I'm leaning your way on suspecting EAP and leaning towards thinking HGH was innocent.
I still think that we should talk a lot more about this before we kill.
I agree wolf. I'm thinking now that strum was the inspector, and he had HGH's name. I think he was right that she and kdogg are working together. But I don't know that he was inspector, so I don't know about HGH.
But after seeing kdogg's responses today, I'm almost as certain now that kdogg is mafia as I was certain bacon was innocent after his responses.
This time I am trying to sway some votes, wolf. I think kdogg is one of the people we're after.
And I'm not sure we've gotten any of the others yet. After kdogg's defense of higgi, I'm just about ready to say I went for the wrong quiet one last round, and should have voted higgi instead of nate.
Right now I'm sticking with kdogg, because I'm about 90% sure he's one of them.
I don't see the connection you're trying to make, kdogg. How is it inconvenient for me that bacon said HGH may have been set up?
Bacon said the Mafia was trying to set up HGH. Bacon thought you were part of the Mafia.
If he was right on both of those counts, you would have more than enough reason to not want that set-up discussed.
Well I say this line of argument is just silly, and I'll put it to rest right now. After higgi's one-word post just now voting for wolf, and kdogg's defense (again) of HGH, here's who the mafia are:
HGH, kdogg, and higgi
Unless and until anyone convinces me otherwise, I'm voting for kdogg now, HGH next round, and higgi after that. Unless they take me down, of course.
the more i read through all these posts from today, the more suspicious you became kdogg.
wolf, he is obviously trying to get you to switch to me to save himself.
like i said before, it would be pretty idiotic of me to kill bacon after he was accusing me the whole time. might i also remind you that he didn't have ANY evidence that i was mafia besides the fact that i 'changed' my vote, which he ALSO did.
i am keeping my vote with kel, but will change it to kdogg if i need to.
like i said before, it would be pretty idiotic of me to kill bacon after he was accusing me the whole time. might i also remind you that he didn't have ANY evidence that i was mafia besides the fact that i 'changed' my vote, which he ALSO did.
i am keeping my vote with kel, but will change it to kdogg if i need to.
Will you agree, on the same grounds, that it would be idiotic of Mafia kdogg to whack Strum after he accused me? If that's good enough to exonerate you, wouldn't it similarly exonerate me?
I find it suspicious that Bacon didn't say a word about EAP early on, and then was very suddenly very vocal about EAP? It's almost like it happened overnight.
