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This is the church right across the street from roo. The pastor at this church was murdered this past Monday by his wife and step-son.
The crazy thing is, this dude (the step-son) worked here where I work for about 2 years, this was 4 or 5 years ago, but I know the guy well.
The pastor and his wife lived on Clifton Scott road, the back way into roo. It was the last house on the left before you turned left onto Cornelison road and head toward roo.
Evidently, it isn;t coming out yet, but Jonathon used to always talk about how his step-dad would beat his mom, and he used to say how he was gonna kill him someday, well, I guess that day was Monday.
Post by autumnsredtears on Sept 10, 2009 2:09:51 GMT -5
Let me get this right... a pastor beats his wife? Sigh... I have a feeling that the consciousness they have to live with for the rest of their life because of this is going to be worse than getting beat... way better ways to deal with a situation than this... that's just, wild. crazy world we live in.
^Yep plenty of pastors have behaved worse over the years. I do agree that murder is not a constructive way to deal with it though.
these posts are almost as disturbing as the incident itself. kind of sick we live in a world where its no surprise to hear about these types of things coming from people who are supposed to be the ones who lead us down the right paths.
^^Thats why religion isnt a good barometer into whether someone is a good person or not. Regardless, my thoughts are with manchester as being from a small town where something similar happened i can attest to the pain and fright of having such a disturbing incident happen right under your nose.
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these posts are almost as disturbing as the incident itself. kind of sick we live in a world where its no surprise to hear about these types of things coming from people who are supposed to be the ones who lead us down the right paths.
I disagree. I think the beatings/murder is nowhere near as disturbing as people posting about it on a message board. There are horrible people in this world and it takes a lot to surprise us these days.
Post by insidejoke on Sept 14, 2009 15:42:30 GMT -5
My heart aches for the mother...and for the murderous step-son. What an awful situation all around. The mental anguish that they are both feeling right now must be overwhelming, to say the least.
these posts are almost as disturbing as the incident itself. kind of sick we live in a world where its no surprise to hear about these types of things coming from people who are supposed to be the ones who lead us down the right paths.
I disagree. I think the beatings/murder is nowhere near as disturbing as people posting about it on a message board. There are horrible people in this world and it takes a lot to surprise us these days.
im not sure if you meant what you said or not.. did you mean to say people posting about it on a MB is nowhere near as disturbing as the beatings?
i just find it ridiculous that we dont hold so called spiritual leaders to a higher level than we do a trailer park trash drunk.
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My heart aches for the mother...and for the murderous step-son. What an awful situation all around. The mental anguish that they are both feeling right now must be overwhelming, to say the least.
More details coming out say the mother put the gun in her son's hand and told him to shoot the husband.
they are both in jail right now charged with 1st deg murder.
I bet Jonathan gets less time than his mom, even though he pulled the trigger.
Do not misconstrue, this was a team effort on the mom/son's part.
I disagree. I think the beatings/murder is nowhere near as disturbing as people posting about it on a message board. There are horrible people in this world and it takes a lot to surprise us these days.
im not sure if you meant what you said or not.. did you mean to say people posting about it on a MB is nowhere near as disturbing as the beatings?
You understood what I said but I worded it weirdly. All I meant was that I don't think the two actions are near the same score on the disturbing scale. The way I posted it made it sound like I thought the posting was worse but that's not how I meant it. I apologize.
in my mind it went like this:
I think the beatings/murder (very disturbing) is nowhere near as disturbing as people posting about it on a message board(not so disturbing).
I was just saying that I don't consider them close to the same amount of disturbing.
i just find it ridiculous that we dont hold so called spiritual leaders to a higher level than we do a trailer park trash drunk.
at this point why should we? they are humans just like the rest of us. no better or no worse. some are horrible people who beat others and molest helpless people........but some are good.
the only reason people don't hold spiritual leaders to a higher level is because the spiritual leaders (some not all) have proven that they aren't on a higher level. they are humans and some of them do the exact same things as trailer park trash drunk.
this isn't an attack on all religious leaders. just trying to point out why some don't view religious figures to a higher standard.
Post by JackoWcko on Sept 16, 2009 14:33:53 GMT -5
This is definitely sad.
On the topic of viewing religious leaders at a higher level, take it from me that not all want to be viewed at that level.
I'm a music pastor at a church and I would rather be viewed as someone on the same level as the rest of society rather than a 'holier than thou' person who thinks he knows all there is to know about religion.
I want people to know that despite my leadership position in a church, I make mistakes and deal with the same struggles as anyone else.
Post by Britney's_Fears on Apr 16, 2010 11:45:56 GMT -5
Soon a statement will be issued that all of that decadent rock music coming from Bonnaroo somehow channelled the spirit of satan in to this poor man's head causing him to beat his wife and his kid to kill him. This is what happens when you put 80,000 dirty hippies right in the middle of decent God fearin' folks. They tried to warn us with those signs but we just wouldn't listen.
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