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I've been lurking around these clues for a few days, and I kinda like where this one is going. While it might be slightly off, Bob Seger and The Silver Bullet Band would be a good guess for this path, haha.
Okay he pointed back to Gary Busey. Jimmy said in his post "good guess for this path" The very next post was about the deleted tweet that said something about walking right up the (path?) answer, then walking off.
But how does Amy Winehouse relate back to the original clue?
Seriously?
I focused more on the hints djjd gave for sure but i guess cuz when jolly and not on drugs Gary Busey is buddy holly and its a chain of evidence leading to an answer instead of coming around full circle
And wow, you're like a walking, talking infomercial to turn people away from Pearl Jam and Ohio State, aren't you? Before you started posting here I quite liked Pearl Jam and was indifferent towards OSU, now I find myself wishing that Eddie Vedder falls down a mine shaft or that Columbus is infested with locusts
Yet calling African-Americans monkeys is too politically incorrect for one of these clues?
Uh...maybe if I'd been the one to say it was politically incorrect in the first place, but I wasn't. In fact, I thought it was a bit presumptuous of whoever made the leap to Jay-Z to even suggest it.
Could 'Le Chanson' DJJD's referring to be Bye Bye Miss American Pie? The Stones are alluded to twice.. "moss grows fat on a rollin' stone" and "Oh, and as I watched him on the stage/ My hands were clenched in fists of rage./ No angel born in hell/ Could break that satan's spell." Just my guess...
I was on board with Jay-Z for a while, but I didn't initially propose it. You should know I'm about the last person who'd legitimately be one of the PC Police
I'm looking at Wikipedia's page for "Rip It Up" and see this: Cover versions
It was covered in 1975 by John Lennon on his album Rock 'n' Roll in a medley together with "Ready Teddy", The Beatles in a medley with Blue Suede Shoes and Shake, Rattle and Roll on The Beatles Anthology 3 album, in 1978 by Billy "Crash" Craddock on the Turning Up And Turning On album, by Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry. Little Richard also sang this song on the PBS special, Doo Wop 51. The Everly Brothers released a cover version of this song in 1959 (#57 in Australia, it did not chart in US or UK).
Another instance of the Beatles playing a Buddy Holly song. We already had "That'll Be the Day" pointing back to Ringo. This would point back to both surviving Beatles. It was also mentioned earlier that Paul owns the rights to most (or was it all?) of Buddy Holly's songs.
Not to mention that it would fit quite well with the whole D-Day (British Invasion?) theme we're seeing with the clues so far.
Post by plasticpepper on Jan 20, 2010 23:20:22 GMT -5
Haha it happens to the best of us! I always end up getting all excited when I connect two pieces of information together, only to realize that they're both several jumps away from the actual clue and I can't connect anything back to it.
Speaking of which, I feel like we're very stumped here. We know none of the things we guessed earlier were right, but we know somebody was headed in the right direction. And we know there's a song involved. A song "where it all matters most," whatever that means. And that's...about all we've got. Argh.
Post by viciouscircle on Jan 20, 2010 23:23:48 GMT -5
I'm a little disinclined to go down any road that involves who covered Buddy Holly songs, just because practically everybody has covered his songs.I tend to think the cover song route is just too broad and and adds too many steps to the solution. I mean, as hard as the clues seem when we are in the process of solving them, in the end the answers can always be pretty simply explained. Look at the first clue - it seemed all complicated, but in the end the answer was very simple to explain, in one or two sentences. I think if we have an answer that ultimately takes too much explanation, it's probably not going to be right.
soldiers are clues- there is no double meaning there that I can tell, though I have found in the past, one's subconscious can do funny things - and is much more likely to let things slip.
True, Pepper, DJJD did say "there is no double meaning"... but can you explain what follows to me in a way that doesn't make it seem sneaky?
I'm a little disinclined to go down any road that involves who covered Buddy Holly songs, just because practically everybody has covered his songs.I tend to think the cover song route is just too broad and takes too many steps to pare down. and adds too many steps to the solution. I mean, as hard as the clues seem when we are in the process of solving them, in the end the answers can always be pretty simply explained. Look at the first clue - it seemed all complicated, but in the end the answer was very simple to explain, in one or two sentences. I think if we have an answer that ultimately takes too much explanation, it's probably not going to be it.
Ok Paul McCartney owns the rights to Buddy Hollys song's: its in the song, theres the Macca reference.
The song(atleast full song) not included in the soundtrack was That'll Be The Day, a movie starring Ringo Starr.
add this with Macca making the true buddy holly story.
theres the simple way to explain it.
ill stick with this guess until djjd comes to tell us were wrong.
Post by plasticpepper on Jan 20, 2010 23:31:31 GMT -5
Hmm, good point, there is some wiggle room there. I initially figured that meant one of two things. Either it was just sort of babble to throw us off a bit, or he didn't intend any double meaning but knew it was possible we'd stumble on an unintended meaning that made sense.
I am still inclined to believe the tweet about not being able to get the clue out of the plane, "come on, come on, push push" is related to "Jolly" and size, whether metaphorical or part of a name or song. Radio Bonnaroo isn't live, there is no time interval for clues.
Why DJJD would reference a technical difficulty in a radio universe that has no point of reference seems arbitrary.
Post by plasticpepper on Jan 20, 2010 23:35:01 GMT -5
I think you guys in the Ringo and/or Paul camps are losing sight of the clue itself. I'm seeing lots of little connections tying things together, but I've yet to see anybody actually explain a path between "Buddy when jolly" and Ringo or Paul.
I agree with viciouscircle, everything we're looking at now is too complicated. Especially when you consider how short this clue is. It's only three words; if you somehow get from there to an explanation that requires three paragraphs then you're making a HUGE leap.
I don't think Macca would be revealed via a clue. Were any headliners announced last year within the first ten clues? Al Green is the highest artist on the lineup I can remember in the first batch of clues (before the second dose got poured out a day or before the lineup and revealed Beastie Boys, Phish, etc.)
i'm really starting to question the gary busey angle. i know djjd referred to him but maybe he meant the buddy holly bit or maybe we are taking it all wrong. i mean really, the clue says buddy but never says holly. we all sort of jumped to that i think.
i dont know how many leaps we're supposed to take to get to the answer. i mean, you can draw a line from anywhere to anywhere as long as you have enough chalk. shouldn't he answer be a few reasonable jumps? i dont know since i didnt do it last year. but the monkey one, once sussed out, was a pretty clear path in a few jumps.
that being said, i found this on busey wiki: "Busey sang the song "Stay All Night" on Saturday Night Live in March 1979 and on the Late Show with David Letterman in the 1990s."
Stay All Night is a Willie Nelson song. Someone else touched on Nelson earlier. Before page nine? I don't know.
EDIT: hah, i didnt refresh before i posted this, to see that viciouscircle already brought up the point that we're reaching too far.
Alright, maybe I've got one more guess in regards to Buddy Holly's "Rip it Up" leading to the answer of Saturday Night.
We already have had a confirmation of sorts that Steve Martin is playing. Steve Martin did a lot of famous work on Saturday Night Live, or as it was known at its debut, "Saturday Night".
Therefore, I submit, that "Buddy When Jolly" refers to Buddy Holly singing "It's Saturday night, I'm a happy happy soul." Happy = Jolly. Buddy When Jolly is on Saturday Night. On SNL, Steve Martin has performed King Tut, as well as at least one song (as I remember) from his banjo album The Crow. Saturday Night leads us to Steve Martin.