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Post by canexplain on Mar 25, 2010 20:43:48 GMT -5
I knew that title would get a lot of you. I was given the unofficial OK to start this thread ... BUT ... the thread is about medical marijuana and the topics that brings up. There should be no reason to even have Bonnaroo in the post because we know a lot of people smoke things there and that is the end of it. This thread is not about how to sneak things in, can you buy stuff there, the usual yada yada
What I would like to discuss is topics like:
The laws in your state If legal now thoughts on how it is going
Growing (Legal again of course) Strains Tips of the Trade Tips on indoor vs outdoor growing Soil vs Hydro
Issues like that. I will wait for a couple of posts to see if anyone is interested and we can go from there.
short bio: I was smoking before I went to WS 69 so for a while I am in the process of growing my legal plants just now (3) I have been busted twice by multiple types of police and both times they let me go so I have nothing bad to say about the police doing their jobs even if I disagree.
Post by SouthGA_Festival Machine on Mar 25, 2010 21:05:40 GMT -5
Today I heard on the radio that California may be about to legalize Marijuana for recreational use. If they do, I may have to travel out there so I can try it. : )
How can anyone rationally argue that there are no medical benefits achieved from marijuana?
I can't help but think also that if it were legalized and taxed in the same way that alcohol and tobacco products are, we could make a huge dent in the federal deficit, free up our judicial system and prisons for REAL criminals, and generally have a happier citizenry. Capece?
How can anyone rationally argue that there are no medical benefits achieved from marijuana?
I can't help but think also that if it were legalized and taxed in the same way that alcohol and tobacco products are, we could make a huge dent in the federal deficit, free up our judicial system and prisons for REAL criminals, and generally have a happier citizenry. Capece?
Yep you are right. I am no where near dropping dead (I hope) but I am legal under three different diagnosed things (not like , hey man I have a headache). I used to drink like a fish, but now I don't drink anything. I could come home and have a couple of beers, but no, I have a bowl or two Plus I cannot afford the calories ;D
Today I heard on the radio that California may be about to legalize Marijuana for recreational use. If they do, I may have to travel out there so I can try it. : )
I was doing some reading about the California legalization effort and found the coolest fact! The largest individual donor to the pro-legalization effort is George Zimmerman, the Men's Warehouse dude. You know, "I guarantee it". He is now my favorite suit salesman.
Of course it should be legal, and I know several people that NEED this medication and would only use it if it were legal. Namely, my mother in law, she puts up with my horrible father in law and God knows it certainly helps me get through a visit, imagine how much it would help her live with him!
Post by questionablesanity on Mar 26, 2010 6:39:46 GMT -5
Still very illegal in Indiana and will remain that way for some time as I see it. I was stoked to see MI and MA changed their laws last election. I think we're up to around 14 states that have allowed medicinal use. We're getting there.
I wish it would at least be decriminalized in most states. If it were legalized, it would create jobs and could be taxed as much as tobacco and tanning beds. I can't see any harm that could be done by it's legalization.
canexplain-What strain/strains are you growing and in what medium? I subscribe to High Times and love to hear about people's set ups. I've never known anyone who grows legally.
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Personally, I think it's ridiculous that in MA, you can carry up to an ounce on you and risk only a $100 ticket, and yet we still haven't embraced medical marijuana.
By the way, I got all excited when I saw this thread title. I thought someone was giving away free pot and free My Morning Jacket tickets
01-15-2010 Tennessee lawmakers are considering a pair of bills to legalize the medical use of marijuana. Lawmakers on January 13 introduced Senate Bill 2511, the Safe Access to Medical Cannabis Act Its House companion bill is HB 2562.
NORML has retained a state lobbyist to represent the interests of our statewide affiliates, and to argue on behalf of legal access to medicinal cannabis. Our lobbyist yesterday met with representatives from the Tennessee Pharmacists Association , the Tennessee Medical Association and the Tennessee Association of Chiefs of Police. Each profession will play an important role in establishing and maintaining a medical cannabis system that enhances both public safety and public welfare. Each gave us a fair hearing.
My setup: I am going to stay totally within the law so there are a few “problems” I am still thinking out. In Colorado we can have a total of 2oz and 6 plants. 3 of the plants can be in the veg state and 3 plants can be in the flowering state. The biggest problem I am running into is that you want a mother plant for your clones because you want as close to 2nd generation as you can. You can never flower the mother so you really can only have 2 plants that are in veg state and one mother if you are not going to purchase clones. Right now I am getting my first 3 clones started. I have a clone of sour diesel, trainwreck, and Hawaiian. I want to try multiple varieties to see how easy they are to grow, yield, taste, etc.
I am starting from clones so I am not going thru or using cfi’s or fluorescents. I am using a 400w Metal Halide (MH) for veg, and then I will switch to 600w High Pressure Sodium (HPS). Two of the plants are growing in Foxfarm soil which seems to be the generally accepted soil and 1 plant is being grown hydroponically to test that way. Two plants are about 2 weeks old and one plant is 1 week old. In a couple of weeks I will force them to bloom and go to the fun state. I will post pictures of the setup and growth if anyone is interested. Peace ….cr*****
MA - decriminilized, no medical. $100 fine up to an ounce. there are local town laws that restrict usage - i.e. the penalty for smoking in the park next to the grade school is going to be a lot worse than a hundred bucks.
Obviously, I would never consider growing, since that would be illegal. but im wondering - with the setup you have, how much did it cost to put it all together? what about seeds? or did you start with clones?
btw, the mens warehouse thing makes me want to shop there next time i need a suit.
Post by canexplain on Mar 26, 2010 12:14:22 GMT -5
Question for the gang. We always seem to want the newest shiny toy. When it comes to MJ, at one store I go to there is about 35 different strains. Now after smoking for years and years, instead of acquiring a knowledgeable taste, sometimes it all runs together. Sure I can tell OG Kush from Mexican swag, but the difference between Kush 01 and Kush 02 escapes me sometimes. Geez sorry for the rant. The question is: If you bought say 1/2 oz a month, would you usually stay with the tried and true or will you usually go for the new stuff on the block? One of the reasons I ask this is because I should have quite a bit of extra each harvest to sell back to the MMJ stores. Should I always go for something new to grow each cycle (about 3 months start to finish) or should I usually stick to Kush, AK47 or some type of MMJ that most people know?
Post by canexplain on Mar 26, 2010 13:19:10 GMT -5
If any of you have friends that might be interested in this topic, ask them to post a few comment if ya would. I am trying to make this a learning thing for myself and others also. We can just get a head (hehe) of the curve and get ready for the next few years as this whole issue blows up. I think it is funny though that the moral people have thrown out their morals (some) because they know the states, city, etc can make a load of money cr****
How the hell did this thread's title escape the filter?
Cuz I am special ;D. I talked with a mod indirectly and the thread is ok as long as you do not discuss anything illegal. MMJ is now becoming a fact of life all legal and such. With that in mind, they will let us post in that spirit but you can bet if we go off on an illegal tangent, this thread will vaporize ...cr****
Anyone looking at this as a career possibility, google Oaksterdam University cause that's the place to be.
I've got a customer at my convenience store, with whom I shoot the often wax political despite out disagreements. He's a federal prosecutor, involved in proceedings with Rod Blagojevich's cohorts, Republican-leaning... and flies out to Oaksterdam U for classes on weekends.
Post by canexplain on Mar 26, 2010 17:33:44 GMT -5
One interesting thing I have found out is I have a number of friends that went thru all the legal hassles and the expense and will never buy at a MMJ place. They just want the card so if they get "busted" they will be ok. Makes sense to me eh ...Someone asked also: it takes about $500 to set up a system. The biggest expense is by far the lights. When I get mine totally done I will post some pics. I need to set up the CO2 for my next project cr****
Post by questionablesanity on Mar 26, 2010 22:03:30 GMT -5
Ive had this a few times and holy shite. Lowryder 2 Feminised=autoflowering
"The long-awaited successor to the Joint Doctor’s flagship strain is finally here. Lowryder #2 is the newest product of the breeder’s quest to improve the strength, yield and flavour of his original variety while maintaining the unusual characteristics that made it so popular. Lowryder #2 has been infused with superior Santa Maria genetics, a variety known for copious resin production, exotic taste and soaring highs, it is an indica / sativa hybrid originally from Brazil. The cross was subsequently selectively inbred for three generations. The result is an auto-flowering dwarf that yields a wonderfully strong, head-turning smoke with intoxicating taste. The strength and flavor is backed by copious resin production and much-improved yield and stability. Buds are larger, tighter and more aromatic than the original Lowryder. As with Original Lowryder, no separate room or light cycle is needed to flower Lowryder #2. Outdoors, Lowryder #2 will mature quicker than any non-auto-flowering variety."
This is what I'd grow. But yeah, if i have a choice, i pick up the new stuff on the block.
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Ive had this a few times and holy shite. Lowryder 2 Feminised=autoflowering
"The long-awaited successor to the Joint Doctor’s flagship strain is finally here. Lowryder #2 is the newest product of the breeder’s quest to improve the strength, yield and flavour of his original variety while maintaining the unusual characteristics that made it so popular. Lowryder #2 has been infused with superior Santa Maria genetics, a variety known for copious resin production, exotic taste and soaring highs, it is an indica / sativa hybrid originally from Brazil. The cross was subsequently selectively inbred for three generations. The result is an auto-flowering dwarf that yields a wonderfully strong, head-turning smoke with intoxicating taste. The strength and flavor is backed by copious resin production and much-improved yield and stability. Buds are larger, tighter and more aromatic than the original Lowryder. As with Original Lowryder, no separate room or light cycle is needed to flower Lowryder #2. Outdoors, Lowryder #2 will mature quicker than any non-auto-flowering variety."
This is what I'd grow. But yeah, if i have a choice, i pick up the new stuff on the block.
I have been reading about AF's. I think I will wait until I am successful doing it the old school way.
This is like A/S/L new days lolz
Soil Hydro Additives Days to veg Days to flower Yield per plant
Post by questionablesanity on Mar 27, 2010 7:41:50 GMT -5
Have you thought about growing organically? I found some OG Trainwreck in Humboldt Co. a few years a back and it was amazing. Triple bagged in the glove box and you could smell it OUTSIDE of the car. Growing hydro uses so many chemicals that I'm not sure I'd buy it although I haven't researched it a lot. I do know that when a hydro system is set up properly that it can be self sufficient and yield large amounts.
What kind of power consumption are you looking at with your current light set up? Are you growing in your house? Do you use filters or just let the wonderful smell permeate?
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Post by ChiefPemperToadWigginsky on Mar 27, 2010 9:48:18 GMT -5
^you can grow hydro and still have it organic. Can, If six plants is the cut-off mark (and you decide to obey) you might want to get some side lights. Also you can tie down the branches so that more lumens (light) penetrate the canopy and a higher yield is produced. Make sure that there is plenty of room between the six babies and twisty-ties work the best. If you are trying to make money then hydroponic and chemicals are the way to go. veg: SVA, SVB, hygrozyme, B'cuzz root, floralicious plus. bloom: SVA bloom, SVB bloom, Phosphoload(might not use with just six), monsterbloom, bat guano, Sweet (flavored sugar). These chemies are tried and true for producing thick nuggets of the sticky, however despite the high yield there is no better smoking experience than totally organic.
Also you definitely want to switch up the strains, There are hundreds(?) of different types of cannabinoids and it is my opinion that even if you have the dankest of dank strain, in a few months(if not sooner) you will get sick of it and need something different with a different concoction of cannabinoids.
I wouldn't ever use any kind of auto-flowering strains, even after learning the old school way. I've heard that they can be a hassle.
Legalize it... why are all the smart people in Cali?
Cali has just as many closed minded nazis as anywhere BUT the people out there have been going door to door and person to person to get the signatures of registered voters that are needed. We need to organize and make the public aware that not only is this going to happen but it needs to happen soon.
If your local tv station is doing a poll on MMJ, call all your friends and get them to vote. Start a petition, join NORML, do whatever it takes to stand up for what you believe in, Even if it isnt about medical herb. Be an activist of any kind.
Post by canexplain on Mar 27, 2010 12:46:17 GMT -5
Thanks Chief for all the good advice. Yea I keep reading where I need to get some side lights. They talk a lot about the red and blue led's. In this first bunch I just want to get me set for about 3 months and then from there I will do it a lot more professionally. I am going up to Seattle to see my dad (he is 85 and I have to get up there). I was thinking about hopping over the boarder and buying a bunch of genetic bred seeds up there since they seem to know what they are doing. Hey I figure I have been waiting to do this for longer then 40 years, I have time to make it right as I can afford it. Retirement is looking a lot better now
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