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This does not look good, there were no drug arrests, and all the money added up this is just ridiculous. Also they seized all the money from the fest and froze the bank accounts, he is lucky to have a pro bono lawyer.
It is pretty crazy stuff, quite honestly it was no worse than AllGood or Mulberry mtn. The biggest problem locals had was that everyone from St Louis drove through their town, to the county where the venue was, and that county got all the tax revenue.
The worst part is that if he gets on the stand to defend himself they can use anything he says against him in a Criminal trial, or if he soft soaps it all they will go after him for perjury, all the while keeping his accounts frozen so he can not pay for a lawyer.
A Thieve's Parade 2/24 Conspirator 2/26 Kevin Smith 3/11 Keller 3/17 Papadosio 3/18 JJ Grey 3/25 Bela Fleck/Edgar Meyer 3/26 Toubab Krewe 3/27 O'Death 4/11 Budos Band 4/22 EOTO 4/28 Summer Camp 5/6-29 All Good
Holy shit. 1. This sounds ridiculous and 2. with all that "hearsay evidence" talk, this really freaks me out that other fest sites could be in the same predicament.
Holy Leno. 1. This sounds ridiculous and 2. with all that "hearsay evidence" talk, this really freaks me out that other fest sites could be in the same predicament.
First off, I would like to say how complete and utter BS I find the whole matter to be, considering the lack of any NO NO WORD!!! charges for the owners and staff of the festival(s). That being said, I would not sound the alarm for all other fests. There is a fine line between advertising your festival as "schwagstock" and other jam festivals going by generic festival names. This seems more like an isolated incident of a festival that says, no NO NO WORD!!! yet is named after a drug, than a federal crack down of hippie jam festivals.
They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up.
The Nazis' rise to power in comparison to a conservative state like MO, shutting down a tiny festival, named after an illegal substance? Any decent lawyer gets these guys off. Now money to afford this said lawyer and pay for their defense is much more troubling. The larger social problem of justice based on your economic class seems to be much more concerning, than Nazis coming for our small jam festivals.
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The Nazis' rise to power in comparison to a conservative state like MO, shutting down a tiny festival, named after an illegal substance? Any decent lawyer gets these guys off. Now money to afford this said lawyer and pay for their defense is much more troubling. The larger problem of justice based on your economic class, which seems to be much more concerning than Nazis coming for our small jam festivals.
I doubt they will get off, this particular law is very slanted in favor of the gov't. He has to prove the innocence not the other way around, plus they froze all his money so any representation is going to be pro bono. Also I was not comparing the Nazis rise to power to this per se, just the spirit of the poem, that if you are apathetic to something because it does not affect you be careful because it might eventually. Or as someone on PT rephrased it.
They came first for the Wooks and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Wook.
Then they came for the vendors and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a vendor
Then they came for the venues and I didn't speak up because I didn't own a venue
Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up.
Bonnaroo also owns the land the festival is on I bet they are paying close attention to this, and it might result in tighter security for all of us.
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We are largely in agreement on basic principles of civil liberties, the complete an utter abuse of government power in this case, and likely agree on the problems of NO NO WORD!!! enforcement in this country as a whole. My only point was, it is one thing to be a wook, but it is completely different to name your business after an illegal substance. I sympathize with their situation, but starting a festival named something like Mollyroo, Lucyrusa, Smackstock, etc, screams investigate and prosecute me. Is it fair or even legal? No, but if you are going to but that own sign on your back, I think you should be prepared for such events.
It is named after the band that owns the property. Originally they were called The Kind, but since they are a dead cover band they decided the Dead was the Kind, and they were The Schwag. It is not like they call it NO NO WORD!!! stock or anything. It has a bad rep, but it was really no worse than AllGood imo.
Almost all venues own the property these days, and there is no shortage of greedy cops, or overzealous DEA agents around. Also for instance what if the Church on the property decided to use this as a rational for not allowing Bonnaroo to rent their property anymore.
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Bonnaroo also owns the land the festival is on I bet they are paying close attention to this, and it might result in tighter security for all of us.
Agreed. This whole sich (sitch?) is another reason to be super sensitive about drug talk on the boards. There's an argument every year about censorship, but clearly the wrong talk can lead to shit like this.
Also for instance what if the Church on the property decided to use this as a rational for not allowing Bonnaroo to rent their property anymore.
I think this would be the greatest worry at this point for Bonnaroo. The festival goers might want to be a little more prepared in the event of tighter security upon entering the grounds and on the drive in. But I don't see any real threat to the festival itself at this point.
Also for instance what if the Church on the property decided to use this as a rational for not allowing Bonnaroo to rent their property anymore.
I think this would be the greatest worry at this point for Bonnaroo. The festival goers might want to be a little more prepared in the event of tighter security upon entering the grounds and on the drive in. But I don't see any real threat to the festival itself at this point.
Honestly I think the DEA could do the same thing to Bonnaroo they have done to zoe, it does not seem like much justification is needed.
The big difference between this and Bonnaroo is that Bonnaroo doesn't openly promote druqg use and they work with the police in allowing them to arrest those who have or sale it. Right or wrong prosecution their claim is that he did nothing to stop the use or sales. Bonnaroo brings in private security as well as state police. Not only that the State of Tennessee supports Bonnaroo. I hear many people complain every year about how Bonnaroo lets the police come through and arrest people...This is why.... As far as Camp Zoe the federal government has around %90 win rate..
The big difference between this and Bonnaroo is that Bonnaroo doesn't openly promote druqg use
Neither does Zoe. Their rules officially state, "No controlled Substances"
Out of the four or five venues I attend for festivals all say that, and all have some kind of security, and just to be honest drugs are still all over any of them. If this is all the rationalization they need to do this I think every decent venue in America is at risk, and I think promoters and owners are going to start taking notice especially if this goes through.
Readin' that article just makes me sad. The kind of corruption that is allowed in what is supposed to be such a great country.
Agreed. They put all this effort into busting some camp because some people were smoking dope and listening to music? Do they realize how little a threat that is? Alas, we still live in a Reefer Madness world
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As far as Bonnaroo, from what I've witnessed, they seem to bust a lot of people on the highway going into and leaving the festival. So a good rule to go by is don't bring anything in or out, unless you really want to risk it
K2 is technically illegal in Tennessee, but it seems you would have a lot less to worry about
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I can't comment personally, but my friend brought along another friend ta this past 'Roo who was usin' that K2 shit. He got searched and they found the K2 while goin' into Centeroo and they originally were tryin' ta take it. But my friend and this guy said it was on sale in the general store (so again, questionable or did it become illegal in TN after 'Roo '10?) and after talkin' with one other dude at the check-in line he got through just fine. I'm hopin' at least in the next decade this Reefer Madness will be exposed as what it really is: MADNESS!
This is a very unfortunate situation but fortunately nothing like this will ever happen at Roo. There is one major reason for this: shit tons of cash. Camp Zoe has nowhere near the economic impact of Bonnaroo has on Coffee County and Tennessee.
Post by awolfatthedoor on Nov 17, 2010 20:20:04 GMT -5
The Kelo case was about handing private property over to private corporations for economic development through eminent domain. And the argument was over what was "public use"
This just seems like someone broke the law, and is getting punished for it.
