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no problems at all getting into bonnaroo or centeroo except for one instance.... My friend and i were turned away from the ferris wheel side entrance for our helmets for the FLips show. They had the one of main security guys set us aside and he said to us that there had been "A lot of hurt" and that glowsticks werent alowed in either. While this was going on the guy with glowstick puppet guy thing was dancing over buy the arcade disco. We were escorted out of centeroo and we went to the arch entrance and had no problem getting in there.
I mean looking at the tank you could see it was not refillable, there are only 2 gasses that float, and only helium makes you talk funny.
Not to be a downer, but sucking too much helium can kill you - it takes away oxygen from your brain, which is why you talk funny. A little too much and you'll faint. Way too much and you could die. So it can be a damanging substance which is probably why they don't allow it.
Post by oleander124 on Jun 22, 2007 10:16:08 GMT -5
dcbee said:
Not to be a downer, but sucking too much helium can kill you - it takes away oxygen from your brain, which is why you talk funny. A little too much and you'll faint. Way too much and you could die. So it can be a damanging substance which is probably why they don't allow it.
Not trying to be a b!tch here, but the funny voice after inhaling helium doesn't have anything to do with your brain. (And I'm definitely not condoning breathing in helium, either, because you can die, like dcbee said.)
"Sound is produced by vibration, the movement of air around our vocal chords. Because helium gas is lighter than the usual oxygen/nitrogen blend, it changes the resonant frequency of the human vocal tract, causing a faster vibration and a higher-pitched, cartoon-character sound."
What helium does change is the timbre of your voice. Timbre is what allows you to distinguish between the same note played at the same volume on two different instruments. Timbre also allows you to distinguish different elements of speech (such as vowel sounds) from each other. For this last reason, timbre is very important to interpreting speech.
Helium is significantly less dense than air. As a result, the speed of sound is much higher in helium. By inhaling helium you are effectively increasing the speed of the sound of your voice. The configuration of your vocal tract does not change, however. If you increase the speed of a sound while keeping its wavelength constant, you increase the frequency of that sound. (Think of it as a sort of Doppler effect.) Since each element of speech is composed of a pattern of several frequencies, altering the speed of sound distorts that pattern. Result: you sound like Donald Duck.
But, you are right about it being dangerous. Every time you inhale pure helium, you are not inhaling oxygen. Do not inhale helium from a pressurized tank...in addition to risking serious damage to your lungs, you could wind up with helium bubbles in the arteries that supply blood to your brain. This is known as a cerebral arterial gas embolism and can lead to stroke-like symptoms including, of course, death.
Heh...Oleander beat me to it.
BTW...I haven't added my experience to this lovely thread.
I carried a full water bottle of vodka inside of my full camelback every day. I never got searched or had any problems. The worst I got was someone feeling my pockets and then asking me what was in them. I rrattled off..wallet, cell phone, camera, etc. that was that. I guess I'm too clean cut looking to warrant a full cavity search.
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Post by canexplain on Jun 22, 2007 11:27:27 GMT -5
dont know if you work at a place the has or used to have halon as a fire retardent thing in your business ... we had to "dump the halon" to test it one year, and halon does just the opposite of what helium does .... even the girls sounded like a gruff old dude ... you talk really really low .... it was pretty funny .. halon is outlawed now so i dont know if the new stuff is the same ... cr****
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 22, 2007 11:29:25 GMT -5
canexplain said:
dont know if you work at a place the has or used to have halon as a fire retardent thing in your business ... we had to "dump the halon" to test it one year, and halon does just the opposite of what helium does .... even the girls sounded like a gruff old dude ... you talk really really low .... it was pretty funny .. halon is outlawed now so i dont know if the new stuff is the same ... cr****
I've heard of that halon stuff before. One of my friends who already has a deep voice tried it and it sounded like he was talking through a special effects microphone or something, it was pretty hilarious.
Post by spookymonster on Jun 22, 2007 11:36:27 GMT -5
We've got a few halon systems at my job to suppress fires in our data center. Supposedly, if you're caught in the room when they go off, you're as good as dead in under a minute: the systems designed to drain all the oxygen out of the room and replace it with Halon gas instead.
Post by canexplain on Jun 22, 2007 11:45:17 GMT -5
naw that is bs what they are telling you ..... we did have to sign a piece of paper saying we did it on purpose but there were maybe 10 of us that did it, and there were no effects except the voice thing (and that was 10 years ago) ... it did blow out a bunch of tiles from the ceiling and papers all over the room .... it was pretty cool all in all .. felt like we were in an earthquake or disaster movie ..... cr*****
The undercover cop thing suprised me... made me a little un-easy.. But I just shrugged it off. Also, we didn't have any problems getting into the farm, or Centeroo, almost everytime brought in a bunch of beers and other party favors. Just look for the fast moving lines, thats the way to go!
Hopefully I didn't jinx myself for next year... *fingers crossed*
Post by roolacksreality on Jun 22, 2007 12:05:25 GMT -5
I had no problems with security this year, except the really slow lines during Thursday and Friday late nights (Got much better over the course of the weekend, though.). However, I can't help but wonder what next year will be like- I mean with UC Officers and all.
The thing that just kills me is that all both sides want to do is make a killing off Bonnaroo. Some people come for the sole purpose of selling, and IMO shouldn't be there. At the same time, cops do not have to give court dates, they only have to fine people. In the end, both groups go there knowing they can make a helluva lot of cash. It really hurts me to think of this. What kind of fuck*d up world do we live in where people can take a fun, peaceful weekend like Bonnaroo and combine it with modern economic to better themselves. It's disgusting, IMO. Maybe on Wall Street or some other similar place. But, Bonnaroo? We are really a brutal kind.
I had a great weekend, just as fun as the other years I've gone. But this one isn't going to stop puzzling me for a long time.
Post by stallion pt. 2 on Jun 22, 2007 12:28:44 GMT -5
roolacksreality said:
What kind of fuck*d up world do we live in where people can take a fun, peaceful weekend like Bonnaroo and combine it with modern economic to better themselves. It's disgusting, IMO.
It's called Capitalism, and it's what has kept our country rolling for more than 200 years. Trust me, if Bonnaroo itself didn't make a profit, it would not exist. People there "just to sell" are just filling a demand that is pretty obvious. And if the cops HAVE to geive people sh!t, I'd rather they dole out fines than haul people off to jail any day.
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Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 22, 2007 12:32:47 GMT -5
stallion said:
It's called Capitalism, and it's what has kept our country rolling for more than 200 years. Trust me, if Bonnaroo itself didn't make a profit, it would not exist. People there "just to sell" are just filling a demand that is pretty obvious. And if the cops HAVE to geive people sh!t, I'd rather they dole out fines than haul people off to jail any day.
You make a good point. I can always make more money by working harder and longer at my job. I can't really cure spending nights in jail.
Post by roolacksreality on Jun 22, 2007 15:19:36 GMT -5
stallion said:
roolacksreality said:
What kind of fuck*d up world do we live in where people can take a fun, peaceful weekend like Bonnaroo and combine it with modern economic to better themselves. It's disgusting, IMO.
It's called Capitalism, and it's what has kept our country rolling for more than 200 years. Trust me, if Bonnaroo itself didn't make a profit, it would not exist. People there "just to sell" are just filling a demand that is pretty obvious. And if the cops HAVE to geive people sh!t, I'd rather they dole out fines than haul people off to jail any day.
I know what capitalism is. I was just saying it's disappointing that this is what we can bring ourselves to and what's going on at Bonnaroo.
You make a good point, though. If I had to choose one lame outcome, paying a fine would be better. Karma for your rationality!
Post by mindexpansi0n on Jun 23, 2007 16:54:00 GMT -5
People sell stuff - many of us buy it - much of it is illegal - the risk is there... I say deal with it or get your hand outta the fire. I personally had no issues with cops, mounties, people selling stuff, or anything else - just played it smart and nobody looked twice at me or my girl.
I've seen several posts where people were seeing "bunches of cops" or "no shakedown" or even someone saying "nobody was selling glass at all!" .... it makes me wonder to myself if some of the people posting here are actually going to Bonnaroo or just wanna be part of the action so they post here after the festival cuz if you believe any of these three statements you are sadly mistaken.
Post by augustwest on Jun 23, 2007 16:59:59 GMT -5
Despite the slightly increased security, I thought that the availability and variety of "goodies" was much better and much more plentiful than 06, i thought it was about the same as 05.
People sell stuff - many of us buy it - much of it is illegal - the risk is there... I say deal with it or get your hand outta the fire. I personally had no issues with cops, mounties, people selling stuff, or anything else - just played it smart and nobody looked twice at me or my girl.
I agree with you, even though my bag searched and some stuff was confiscated going into Centeroo, I was not arrested and I am sure the security dudes enjoyed all of the stuff they took later on.
The only cops I saw were on Bushy Branch road as we were leaving on Sunday. The only person I saw getting hassled/searched in the camping area was this dazed, dirty looking (well, I guess everyone looked dirty) guy that had a backpack. He was tackled by some security on an ATV near 9th St and W 2nd Ave. I was buying a drink at a vendor and I watched the security tackle him, hold him down and then another security person searched his bag on the ATV. Not sure if he had been selling stuff in the camping area or what but I thought the tackle was a little excessive considering the guy appeared to be pretty harmless in comparison to the buff security dudes. (They could have been cops too now that I think about it but I couldn't tell for certain)
People just have to follow the rules of common sense if they are going to be doing that sort of thing, keep it out plain view, don't look obvious and go with your gut feeling if you feel something fishy.
Post by blazeaway54 on Jun 24, 2007 3:59:59 GMT -5
Thursday my girlfriend and her roommate got granola bars and a small bag of cereal taken away for some reason, but Friday I got in line and there was a supervisor on a stepladder behind the lines yelling "We're only looking for BIG stuff, move your line quickly!" and I didn't even have my bag searched. Also I had no problem sneaking vodka in a water bottle in by keeping a towel around my neck and holding the bottle underneath it...remember that for next year.
Post by waitingfornextyear on Jun 24, 2007 13:27:28 GMT -5
I thought security at centeroo was like any concert these days. If you're smart, the important things will get in. I did, however, lose my two glowsticks on a string trying to re enter during sasha and digweed. That was a little ridiculous considering there were fifty people within a few yards of the entrance swinging glowsticks, but not worth an argument.
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I've seen several posts where people were seeing "bunches of cops" or "no shakedown" or even someone saying "nobody was selling glass at all!" .... it makes me wonder to myself if some of the people posting here are actually going to Bonnaroo or just wanna be part of the action so they post here after the festival cuz if you believe any of these three statements you are sadly mistaken.
Well, I was there and shakedown was not what it was in 2006. so by comparison, "no one was selling glass". yeah, it was all there according to people i met, but i never bothered to find it.
why does bonnaroo really care aside from food vendors that can totally be sketchy? yeah, the money - but the real moneymaker on shakedown can't be assessed for taxes/fees...
Post by mindexpansi0n on Jun 24, 2007 16:20:16 GMT -5
We are talking like glass pipes and stuff right? There were more booths then I could shake a stick at - on Bushy Branch, on Shakedown, near Centeroo, out in BFE, roaving vendors coming by our tent... I saw more glass then I could have possibly looked at in a month, let alone 4 days.
ideoteque said:
mindexpansi0n said:
I've seen several posts where people were seeing "bunches of cops" or "no shakedown" or even someone saying "nobody was selling glass at all!" .... it makes me wonder to myself if some of the people posting here are actually going to Bonnaroo or just wanna be part of the action so they post here after the festival cuz if you believe any of these three statements you are sadly mistaken.
Well, I was there and shakedown was not what it was in 2006. so by comparison, "no one was selling glass". yeah, it was all there according to people i met, but i never bothered to find it.
why does bonnaroo really care aside from food vendors that can totally be sketchy? yeah, the money - but the real moneymaker on shakedown can't be assessed for taxes/fees...
Post by roolacksreality on Jun 24, 2007 17:21:26 GMT -5
All the good glass and even more clandestine goodies were on Plantation Street. Anything and everything could be found there. No sign of Johnny Law, either. Not like I saw him on Shakedown or any other place except Bushy Branch on Sunday night, but you get what I'm saying.
with the exception of the ridiculously slow line to get into centeroo immediately before/during the beginning of tool's set, we ran into absolutely zero difficulties with security whatsoever.
my personal opinion is that security wasn't really any tighter this year than in the past, but they wanted to give the impression to anyone who'd never been that they were on top of nuts.
the last thing you want 80,000+ people to realize is that its really the inmates running the asylum, you know? ;D
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The undercover cop thing suprised me... made me a little un-easy.. But I just shrugged it off. Also,
i saw a few men burly types walking around shakedown,, i noticed that they had no wristbands, then i took more notice that they had radios and earpieces. looked a little harder and saw cuffs and a gun .. i told my girl .. she has been to roo 4 x's and the last (07) being my 1st. she said she never saw undercover cops at roo before nor has she heard of them there . i bet next yr there will be even more and i would not br surprised if they even install video cams around shakedown .. you gotta look out for the man ,, he can fuck up your roo weekend
Post by augustwest on Jun 25, 2007 14:13:20 GMT -5
I saw undercovers in 05 in BFE, they were busting a tank. they looked like typical undercovers, brand new cheesy biker tie-dye, tucked in, brand new shoes, oakley's.
Post by strumntheguitar on Jun 25, 2007 14:18:09 GMT -5
korvette said:
i saw a few men burly types walking around shakedown,, i noticed that they had no wristbands, then i took more notice that they had radios and earpieces. looked a little harder and saw cuffs and a gun .. i told my girl .. she has been to roo 4 x's and the last (07) being my 1st. she said she never saw undercover cops at roo before nor has she heard of them there . i bet next yr there will be even more and i would not br surprised if they even install video cams around shakedown .. you gotta look out for the man ,, he can f**k up your roo weekend
Cameras on shakedown?? I can't even imagine that ever happening. More undercovers: yes. Cameras: Never.
When we got searched in line at the front gates they did a full search on just about every car including ours. When I got out I sparked up a conversation with one of the guys searching us and he told me that they were being very strict this year but that they were told to focus mainly on weapons and if people had ALOT of one thing because they wanted to really crack down on illegal vending. He said it didn't matter what it was but if someone had alot of it they were told to confiscate it. They almost took some squirt guns from us because we had like 9 of them. The guy told me it was because Bonnaroo was charging out the ass for vending licenses this year so they need to be sure that people buying licenses are getting there money's worth. He said the cost of a vending license this year was between $25,000 and $50,000 depending on location.
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