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I honestly have no idea how people get it in their minds that this band can headline.
And honestly, I could care less about The Dead/Furthur. Never been interested in them. But clearly they are large enough to headline a festival.
I would rather watch dogs eat cat Leno out of a litter box than watch two has beens (who's meal ticket died in 1995 as far as Im concerned) play a concert
That said, in my opinion, MMJ and Social Distortion should have been the two headliners on that bill.
Furthur is not fit to headline for the following reasons:
A: They have only been a band since 2009 B: They have not released LPs / EPs
While they are certainly past their prime, I am not discrediting Phil Lesh and Bob Weir as musicians. However, claiming that Furthur should headline would be like saying Ringo Starr's All Star Band should headline, just nonsense.
Now, if furthur can make a name for themselves with ORIGINAL MUSIC (not Grateful Dead music that is older than I am), then that + their former stardom = a top five spot on the bill.
This is just my opinion though, and obviously many people don't concur.
Against Me! - Sharon Jones & Dap Kings - Titus Andronicus - Cage The Elephant - Lupe Fiasco
Florence + The Machine - Ra Ra Riot - Jamey Johnson - Robert Randolph & Family Band
Dillinger Escape Plan - Ozomatli - The Pogues - Galactic - Matt & Kim - Cold War Kids
Iron & Wine - Citizen Cope - Taj Mahal Trio - Rebelution - Explosions In The Sky - Cut Copy
Ghostland Observatory - Edward Sharpe & Magnetic Zeros - Lotus - Delta Spirit
The Lee Boys - Drive-By Truckers - Trombone Shorty & Orleans Avenue - Streetlight Manifesto
North Mississippi Allstars - Dead Kennedys - 7 Walkers - Soulive - Portugal. The Man
Big Sam's Funky Nation - Ryan Montbleau Band - Preservation Jazz Hall Band - Railroad Earth
Cradle Of Filth - EOTO - Trampled by Turtles - Das Racist - Ryan Bingham & Dead Horses
I actually like this a lot but A- I don't think Interpol would be as low as they are, certainly not behind Mumford and Sons I don't think. And B- Do Edward Sharpe and The Avett Bros. really have a reason to come back? It's not like either of them have risen in popularity since last year.
Don't know much about Interpol. If they need to be higher then fine. However, I'm thinking this year's low undercard that have played Bonnaroo are going to be playing Thursdays this year and I bet they end up inviting a lot of Roo veterans, even ones that played last year, to come back and celebrate the tenth. And the Roo vets will not be on the same stage and time slot (obviously) to the year they performed.
2004 - The Dead 2006 - Phil & Friends 2007 - The Police (no new albums in years)
Furthur could headline. That doesn't mean they will. But they certainly, certainly could.
While they are certainly past their prime
This argument could be made for Tool, Metallica, Pearl Jam, The Police, Tom Petty & Heartbreakers, and other Roo headliners.
I didn't think the police really fit in. Phil and Friends and the Dead headlining just prove that not everybody agrees with my view.
How many roo headliners can you think of, since bonnaroo's inception, that have not recorded new music since 1990? Being past your prime, and only existing to play shit that was written 30 years ago is one thing; being past your prime, still cranking out decent music, and playing concerts that mix the old and new together is something completely different.
Furthur is not fit to headline for the following reasons:
A: They have only been a band since 2009 B: They have not released LPs / EPs
While they are certainly past their prime, I am not discrediting Phil Lesh and Bob Weir as musicians. However, claiming that Furthur should headline would be like saying Ringo Starr's All Star Band should headline, just nonsense.
Now, if furthur can make a name for themselves with ORIGINAL MUSIC (not Grateful Dead music that is older than I am), then that + their former stardom = a top five spot on the bill.
This is just my opinion though, and obviously many people don't concur.
Nobody ever listened to the Grateful Dead albums either. Furthur is one hell of a show and I saw the original band a lot as well. They are a pretty huge band at the moment selling out big shows really quickly, I am pretty sure if they were there they would headline. Hell Phil Lesh headlined in 2006, and tore it up then. Furthur>>>>>>P&F
Phil and Friends and the Dead headlining just prove that not everybody agrees with my view.
How many roo headliners can you think of, since bonnaroo's inception, that have not recorded new music since 1990? Being past your prime, and only existing to play Leno that was written 30 years ago is one thing; being past your prime, still cranking out decent music, and playing concerts that mix the old and new together is something completely different.
Phil Lesh and Friends have released new material and have 3 albums since 1990. Granted, two are live shows but still.
And The Dead essentially are the Grateful Dead. They changed the name but it's still the same guys playing the same music they made years ago.
Furthur mix the old (grateful dead tunes) with the new (energetic, younger band members adding new elements to the songs) and have been praised a lot for their shows. Not only that, but they have some new songs that they've been playing since the band formed, so they are at least adding to their sets.
Anyway, I was mostly responding to your original post of how you "can't understand how people get it into their head that Furthur could headline". I get that you don't like them.....but they certainly could headline.
Paul McCartney * The Rolling Stones Daft Punk * Furthur * Arcade Fire * Neil Young Jack Johnson * My Morning Jacket * Widespread Panic Ben Harper & Relentless 7 * Crosby, Stills, & Nash * The Strokes John Mayer Trio * Wyclef Jean * Trey Anastasio Band * John Legend & The Roots Sublime w/ Rome * Steve Miller Band * MGMT * The Wailers Primus * Eddie Vedder * Iron & Wine * Alice Cooper * Girl Talk Greg Allman * Deftones * Flying Lotus * Loretta Lynn * Wiz Khalifa OAR * Florence + the Machine * Galactic * Silversun Pickups * STS9 * 311 John Kay & Steppenwolf * Warren Haynes Band * Gogol Bordello * Atmosphere Cold War Kids * Major Lazer * Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings * Deathklok * Rusko deerhunter * Mumford & Sons * Slightly Stoopid * Rusko * Portugal. the Man * Jamey Johnson Matt & Kim * Preservation Hall Jazz Band * Flobots * Blue Oyster Cult * Pretty Lights Crystal Castles * Cage the Elephant * Rancid * Keller Willaims * Curren$y Delta Spirit * Skrillex * Flipsyde * Wavves * Against Me! * The Felice Brothers The Expendables * Bad Religion * Trampled by Turtles * Brand New * Dieselboy Alberta Cross * Little Big Town * Iration * The Budos Band * Straylight Run Those Darlins * Anthony Green * Man Man * Good Old War Bonnie Prince Billy * Jessica Lae Mayfield * Papadosio * Born Forty * Signal Home
Thursday: John Legend & The Roots-> Arcade Fire HL, Trey Anastosio Band LN Which Friday: Wyclef Jean-> John Mayer Trio -> Rolling Stones HL-> Daft Punk LN What Which closer: MGMT Saturday: Jack Johnson-> Ben Harper-> Neil Young-> Paul McCartney HL, which closer: The Strokes SAT LN: MMJ-Which after Paul, Widespread Panic-What. after MMJ Sunday: The Wailers-> Crosby, Stills, & Nash-> Further HL Which Closer: Steve Miller Band
a LN tent that starts towards the end of Daft Punk: Blue Oyster Cult-> Alice Cooper-> Deathklok Jacques Fresco would speak between the Stones and Daft Punk Jack Johnson would play early Saturday like Jimmy Buffet did with few opposition- like a daytime HL There'd be a superjam on Saturday LN from like 4am 'til Sunrise
EDIT: switched positioning around. and added a couple more acts.
at first i wasnt gonna say anything because i thought this was just a wishlist, but then you said you thought it really might happen because you think theyre gonna "go big this year". but im just telling you that you REALLY need to lower your expectations or you're going to be supremely disappointed when the lineup comes out. youve literally got 10-11 potential headliners in there and about 15 more bands that would be top 10. also the thursday stuff aint gonna happen. it just isnt.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jan 14, 2011 13:25:45 GMT -5
Yea, there's no way that we get Paul, The Rolling Stones, Neil Young, and Daft Punk all on the same lineup.
And Arcade fire playing would make people happy, but them playing Thursday would cause some to riot. So many people would miss out on Arcade Fire and that would be a silly business move because they are a huge draw.
Post by nodepression on Jan 14, 2011 13:26:54 GMT -5
Guys if you're going to make a fake lineup post, at least make a poster with it. Nobody gives a crap about giant blocks of text with 20 headliners in it.
Guys if you're going to make a fake lineup post, at least make a poster with it. Nobody gives a crap about giant blocks of text with 20 headliners in it.
Yeah if you can't use photoshop your contribution is not important
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Furthur is not fit to headline for the following reasons:
A: They have only been a band since 2009 B: They have not released LPs / EPs
While they are certainly past their prime, I am not discrediting Phil Lesh and Bob Weir as musicians. However, claiming that Furthur should headline would be like saying Ringo Starr's All Star Band should headline, just nonsense.
Now, if furthur can make a name for themselves with ORIGINAL MUSIC (not Grateful Dead music that is older than I am), then that + their former stardom = a top five spot on the bill.
This is just my opinion though, and obviously many people don't concur.
Post by Warwick2Bonnaroo on Jan 14, 2011 14:03:13 GMT -5
If Black Keys come back they would hopefully be on the what or which stage...I got shut out of the damn tent last year, fortunately I wandered into Hall & Chromeo which worked out well
Man I wish I appreciated the 2008 lineup more. 09 was good, 10 was terrible and expectations are getting lower and lower for 11.
Bonnaroo Jump the shark alert.
08 and 09 were STELLAR. I'm in the obvious minority, but '10 was good. Everyone I've talked to, enjoyed themselves, and didn't want to leave when the fest was ending. Keep the hope alive.
I agree the previous lineups looked a bit better, but to say that they jumped the shark is ludicrous in my opinion. I enjoyed the '10 lineup a lot after the initial disappointment.
I agree the previous lineups looked a bit better, but to say that they jumped the shark is ludicrous in my opinion. I enjoyed the '10 lineup a lot after the initial disappointment.