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Post by stallion pt. 2 on Jun 26, 2007 18:11:25 GMT -5
No...adding I think or IMO to any statement does not make it an opinion. I suggest you read up on your liable law before you start your career as a columnist.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
No...adding I think or IMO to any statement does not make it an opinion. I suggest you read up on your liable law before you start your career as a columnist.
I'll keep that in mind for when a lawyer from MetalHeads for America comes knocking on my door with a subpoena. And for someone that posts a reply to prevent an arguement you sure do like to argue, or in my opinion, act like a little cry-baby.
Post by stallion pt. 2 on Jun 26, 2007 19:03:48 GMT -5
Just trying to help sharpen your arguing skills, so you don't come off sounding like a stupid c0ckwallet (you do, btw). You're inability to seperate rational opinion from ignorent belief is embarassing, almost moreso than your insistance on calling someone who stands up to your bullshit a crybaby. You were the one crying about metalheads. I just told you we were tired of hearing that sh!t. I just call em as I see em. Now if you would kindly shut the f uck up so this thread can return to people's experiences w/ theives this year. I promise to do the same.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
Look.....You're obviously new around here. This board has been flooded w/ threads/posts going back and forth between "Tool fans are going to ruin Bonnaroo" to "I'm a Tool fan and I'm not a meathead" arguments back and forth and over and over again...ad nausem. Just when we thought that flame was extinguished you brought it up again. I think we're all sick of the argument. It's almost as annoying as the "Lot rats are a bunch of dirty wooks who steal" and "Bonnaroo has sold out to popular bands" arguments that go nowhere, accomplish nothing and only serve to clutter up the board. And my post said nothing about metalheads being nice people. Where the f@ck did you get that?
You're right, I am obviously new here so i guess i should just agree with what you say because thats what you want and no one else's opinion counts. Why don't you just start a thread of your own so you can talk to people that will only agree with you? Because obviously other people's opinions rub you the wrong way.
and I will say again (in case no one could hear me )
You're inability to seperate rational opinion from ignorent belief is embarassing, almost moreso than your insistance on calling someone who stands up to your bullshit a crybaby.
First, I'm not calling 'someone' a cry-baby, i'm calling you a cry-baby because i call them like i see them.
stallion said:
You were the one crying about metalheads.
I was never 'crying' about metalheads, i was stating my opinion no matter what you want to call it, it's still my opinion. And I obviously offended you by saying that and I'm sorry, I didn't think people on a message board could be so sensitive, not ALL metal heads are assholes, just most in my opinion based on my own personal experiences and being from the midwest
stallion said:
Now if you would kindly shut the f uck up so this thread can return to people's experiences w/ theives this year. I promise to do the same.
You could have done that about 3 posts ago, but obviously you're upset that someone is stealing your thunder, so i guess that makes me a thief, so technically we're still on the same subject. I personally never had to deal with thieves since I have camped in VIP each year i have gone but you would have to be blind or stupid to not notice that the asshole factor has gone way up in comparison to years past which is the main point I was trying to make considering it's more than a coincidence that the year bonnaroo lets in metal-esque act the crime factor goes up. Either way though, you're still a cry-baby and we can just leave it at that and you can start a nice little thread where you can have 'yes men' agree with everything you say, since you're obviously so l33t
And Flaming Lips fans stole my, uh... person-sized plastic bubble!
Why-oh-why can't Bonnaroo go back to being just a bunch of jam bands nobody wants to see, thus ensuring low attendance and less theft?? What was the term somebody used in another thread somewhere? Jam Band Country Club?
I like that too, but I disagree with that whole "ensuring low attendance" thing. The first year it sold out in a matter of weeks and it was still 70,000. All by word of mouth.
Post by canexplain on Jun 26, 2007 21:35:33 GMT -5
alyroo said:
I like that too, but I disagree with that whole "ensuring low attendance" thing. The first year it sold out in a matter of weeks and it was still 70,000. All by word of mouth.
I love "jamband" fans ;D
i hate the told you so thing, but i started a thread months ago asking if tool would ruin the roo ... i meant to say change and not ruin, but i think they did change the roo a little this year ... will it keep changing more and more .. guess time will tell .. i personally am looking foward to ratm and vegoose, but then my fav bands always come back to our jam bands .. cr****
I like that too, but I disagree with that whole "ensuring low attendance" thing. The first year it sold out in a matter of weeks and it was still 70,000. All by word of mouth.
I love "jamband" fans ;D
i hate the told you so thing, but i started a thread months ago asking if tool would ruin the roo ... i meant to say change and not ruin, but i think they did change the roo a little this year ... will it keep changing more and more .. guess time will tell .. i personally am looking foward to ratm and vegoose, but then my fav bands always come back to our jam bands .. cr****
Looking back on it now - after it is all over - I have to agree with you somewhat - I think the Tool fans did change it - but I also think The Police fans (the ones that were there solely for The Police - the ones that caused the increased VIP/decreased tent only thing) changed it somewhat also
I will not be returning next year because of two things..........our generator being stolen and the ridiculous dust in centeroo that could have been watered down late at night/early morning before the crowds were big in there.......bonnaroo has definitely changed for the worse (no i'm not a jamband only fan) and this being my 5th year and the experience I had will assure that I won't be there next year, which makes me upset. It's a damn shame!
My friend had his towel stolen as it was hanging up to dry from our pop-up shade at our campsite. What real good could come from stealing a towel? I thought that was a bit ridiculous.
Also, while I was sitting waiting for Wolfmother to start Sunday afternoon, I started talking to this nice fella from Birmingham. He told me that earlier in the day a group of about 3 "younger" kids surrounded him as he was walking to Centeroo (younger is what he said, I don't know how old that is, just quoting him) He said they proceeded to take his wallet out of his back pocket and then run away. He told the nearest security personnel, and they told him that there was nothing that he could do because he could not leave his post. What is the point of having security there if you can't leave one spot? Doesn't seem very logical to me.
My friend had his towel stolen as it was hanging up to dry from our pop-up shade at our campsite. What real good could come from stealing a towel?
Ummm maybe they read or saw The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and realized that they forgot their towel (something you should never leave home without)
Post by oleander124 on Jun 27, 2007 13:20:53 GMT -5
nola said:
My friend had his towel stolen as it was hanging up to dry from our pop-up shade at our campsite. What real good could come from stealing a towel? I thought that was a bit ridiculous.
Also, while I was sitting waiting for Wolfmother to start Sunday afternoon, I started talking to this nice fella from Birmingham. He told me that earlier in the day a group of about 3 "younger" kids surrounded him as he was walking to Centeroo (younger is what he said, I don't know how old that is, just quoting him) He said they proceeded to take his wallet out of his back pocket and then run away. He told the nearest security personnel, and they told him that there was nothing that he could do because he could not leave his post. What is the point of having security there if you can't leave one spot? Doesn't seem very logical to me.
Guess if the crime happens exactly where he is standing you're hooked up!
Post by stallion pt. 2 on Jun 27, 2007 13:32:10 GMT -5
fishinjax said:
I will not be returning next year because of two things..........our generator being stolen and the ridiculous dust in centeroo that could have been watered down late at night/early morning before the crowds were big in there.......bonnaroo has definitely changed for the worse (no i'm not a jamband only fan) and this being my 5th year and the experience I had will assure that I won't be there next year, which makes me upset. It's a damn shame!
Sorry to hear about your generator, but the dust was really beyond their control. I saw water trucks driving around the campsites several times and five mins after the were gone the water had dried and the dust was back. Even if they watered down centeroo all night, it would have been back to dust by morning. It was the drought, plain and simple.
John: We don't even understand our own music Spider: It doesn't, does it matter whether we understand it? At least it'll give us . . . strength John: I know but maybe we could get into it more if we understood it
I will not be returning next year because of two things..........our generator being stolen and the ridiculous dust in centeroo that could have been watered down late at night/early morning before the crowds were big in there.......bonnaroo has definitely changed for the worse (no i'm not a jamband only fan) and this being my 5th year and the experience I had will assure that I won't be there next year, which makes me upset. It's a damn shame!
Sorry to hear about your generator, but the dust was really beyond their control. I saw water trucks driving around the campsites several times and five mins after the were gone the water had dried and the dust was back. Even if they watered down centeroo all night, it would have been back to dust by morning. It was the drought, plain and simple.
Here is my thing about the water trucks:
1. Seems to me that after the What Stage cleared out and once they set up barriers, and after Clean Vibes did their thing - could they not have watered down that whole area?
2. The ONLY water truck I saw the whole weekend (not saying they were not there - I just did not see them) was on Sunday - we were crashed in the grass between the Art of Such n Such and The Other Tent and a water truck dumped water on the access road on the other side of the fence 3 times - to the point that we had to get up and move our blanket about 5 feet because of all the water running off the road and into the grass.
Post by peacelover on Jun 27, 2007 14:10:42 GMT -5
given the drought I'm surprised there were any water trucks - my friends who live near atlanta aren't even allowed to water their lawns or wash their cars - maybe water was scarce and watering had to be curtailed - what they really need is a good, long soaking rain
1. Seems to me that after the What Stage cleared out and once they set up barriers, and after Clean Vibes did their thing - could they not have watered down that whole area?
Here's my thing about the water trucks:
Tennessee was (and still could be, I don't know) in the middle of a massive drought. Now, I'm assuming that Bonnaroo didn't truck in the millions of gallons of water necessary for this event - I'm assuming it was pumped out of local reservoirs. If that is indeed the case, then they'd likely be hard pressed to justify - at any price - using tons of water to soak down a field that is largely empty 11 months out of the year, just to make sure some privileged concert-goers didn't have to deal with the dust.
Watering down the entire What Stage area each night would use a lot of water. Beside the fact that the drought was so severe that any water spilled was immediately soaked up with little long term effect, this would likely be seen by Coffee County and the State as a massive misuse of critical state resources at a time where water is scarce. Tennesseans are counting on local water supplies for crops, drinking water, etc. For Bonnaroo to use extra water to keep the dust away would strike me as extremely unethical. Furthermore, I doubt the country would agree to it, unless Bonnaroo did indeed truck in all the water it used for the weekend.
ya know - it was just a question - not sure it needed an answer worded the way you worded your answer - I fully understand the drought conditions - that being so - why in the space of 5 min did the same truck dive up and down the same road and dump so much water that it was running off the road?
just to make sure some privileged concert-goers didn't have to deal with the dust
out of your whole response - that is the only line was uncalled for. I may be taking it more personally then I should but I am by far a "privileged concert goer" I was very lucky to scrape up the money for tickets not to mention gas to get there and mostly ate in camp to save money - far from pivileged.
Anyway - I was only asking a question - not expecting to be attacked for asking.
Sorry the thread got hijacked ----anyone out there have any more stories about stuff that was stolen???
ya know - it was just a question - not sure it needed an answer worded the way you worded your answer - I fully understand the drought conditions - that being so - why in the space of 5 min did the same truck dive up and down the same road and dump so much water that it was running off the road?
out of your whole response - that is the only line was uncalled for. I may be taking it more personally then I should but I am by far a "privileged concert goer" I was very lucky to scrape up the money for tickets not to mention gas to get there and mostly ate in camp to save money - far from pivileged.
Anyway - I was only asking a question - not expecting to be attacked for asking.
Sorry the thread got hijacked ----anyone out there have any more stories about stuff that was stolen???
My apologies. I did not mean to attack you - I've just gotten tired of seeing people complain about things that could not be easily controlled, like the dust. It's the old BPL analysis, that's all.
For the record, I count anyone who was Bonnaroo as "privileged" - I didn't mean to imply we were all there with trust funds. Everyone there (well, nearly everyone) made a conscious decision to attend a frivolous (read: not necessary for survival) music festival. Bonnaroo is a privilege, not a right, is what I was going for there. But we are privileged in that we were concerned about the dust because it meant we might blow brown boogies or catch a cold - we weren't worried about it because it might kill all of our crops and leave us with no income, like many local residents would fear.
That's all. Apologies. Back to the thievery!
Now I see where you were coming from - understand completely - yeah - it was a privilege to be there not a right. And I did not mean to complain about things that could not be controlled - truthfully - when I posed the questions, I was not thinking of where the water would have to come from to keep the dust down