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Meanwhile, Democracy for America, the political action committee founded by Howard Dean and led by his brother, is attempting to raise $150,000 in support of the 14 Senate Democrats by asking donors for contributions of $14. The group said it has raised $5,269 so far.
*Yawn* I'm sure you were equally offended when it was Republican Rudy Giuliani in amounts of $9.11 You can go back and forth on these attacks all you want either way, but I don't play on that level anymore. The late, great Bill Hicks nailed it: There's one guy holding both puppets.
This went by the capitol while I was grabbing a cup of coffee today. Shot by my boy Phil, and I'm sure my cheesehead gives me away.
I wasn't there to heckle. I didn't see what was going on until the group rounded the corner. I just saw an older man in a suit and a group of people shouting Shame and started to see what was going on. I pulled out my phone and started to record when I saw Phil & another photographer friend in hot pursuit. Then all that happened.
I was quite worried for a few minutes there. Nobody out there wants any violence happening out there. This peaceful protest has been going too long and too strong to throw away on something like that now. Why do you think Walker talked about planting troublemakers when "David Koch" punk'd him?
So back to that hullabaloo. Quick legal process breakdown: Rep. Hulsey is a freshman in the Assembly (lower house) from a Madison-area district. Sen. Grothman is in the State Senate, which has yet to vote on this bill due to the absence of the Wisconsin14. From what I'm reading up on in another tab:
Grothman says Hulsey did help him escape the crowd but he was never that worried. "I really think if I had had to, I could have walked through the crowd and it would have been okay," he said. "They're loud, they'll give you the finger, and they yell at you, but I really think deep down inside they're just mostly college kids having fun, just like they're having fun sleeping with their girfriends on air mattresses. That's the guts of that crowd."
He underestimates us. True, there's been a group of students who've been pivotal to the occupation of the state house, but we're so much more than that. We are the police, firemen, teachers, doctors, sewer workers, school staff, veterans, prison guards, retirees, and more. We treat our public servants like rockstars up here. When Cops for Labor, the teachers union or someone else parade past, they get an ovation from the people and vuvuzelas blast. (Local club DJ Nick Nice ordered/distributed 100 surplus vuvuzelas for these protests, with more reinforcements on the way.) There are a fair amount of music and costumes adding to the vibe as well. These protests have a vibe that can rival Bonnaroo any day. It's just that Scott Walker is our Kanye West.
Ugh... so much more I could cram in. Some of the busiest but best days of my life. I've been interviewed by Democracy Now, a Green Bay Fox affiliate, some improv group interviewing me with puppets, and briefly by the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel - who put my mug (see my avatar) on the front page of their Sunday opinion section. Some local band recruited me for their YouTube video. The sign making and waving, the marching, the vuvuzela blasting (I had my own from the start, was thrilled at those reinforcements.) All those photo ops and getting hooked on Twitter - this picture I tweeted helped. It had my phone exploding with notifications all day and surprised me how fast something like that could snowball. Hell, I didn't really think anyone was listening to me on that thing.
Speaking of which, I also took to The People's Mic outside the other day. I know video exists, but I think I did kinda meh so I'm hesitant. I did kind of like that the MC with the mic didn't catch my name and introduced me as Mister Forward. I can live with that.
This incident was about the only ugly thing that's happened, and even then cooler heads prevailed. Mob mentality was overcome and a beautiful moment occurred. This is why I've been chanting "One Day Longer" for a couple weeks now. I've been out in it long enough that this guy who is always out there, and nearly always silent... ...will peel back the tape to give me a "Hey Kevin." I've got friends in the press whose jaw dropped knowing I know the guy's name, and I'm not telling
Speaking of jaw-dropping, one more thing before I crash out for the night:
There are PALM TREES in this "Violent Wisconsin Protest" footage! Does Fox News even try anymore? Oh, and that reporter who's talking to Papa Bear, Mike Tolbin... he hath suffered the fury from my vuvuzela. I was kinda drunk one night last week, saw him in his tent (none of the other news companies set up under a shade tent, just Fox... odd) while he was preparing to go live. I confirmed that the lines from his camera were going to the Fox News truck up the street and lied in wait. Shortly after he went live, I came up around from one side blowing my vuvuzela, got in a "Fox lies!" shout while I was in the behind-him vicinity, and vuvuzela'ed my way off camera. He called me "a chucklehead in a cheesehead" I believe. To think I had been feeling bad about that for a couple days... Still haven't seen that footage, but would love to.
Post by suspendedzen on Mar 4, 2011 10:29:34 GMT -5
Americans for Prosperity are busing people all over Wisconsin tomorrow to support Walker/corporatism. They'll be in my town, La Crosse, tomorrow night at 6:30
I got a (NSFW first few secs) song right back at y'all!
MC5's Wayne Kramer, Tom Morello, ex Dropkick Murphy singer's Street Dogs and Ike Reilly, performing in Madison on February 21st... back when this beautiful thing we've got going here was just celebrating its first week of existence.
I slept in Walkerville in/near the capitol entry last night in 33 degree weather. I've been living out of my car like that lately. I'm at a house with electricity laundry shower and an actual bed, so I've got to take quick advantage of them and keep this post somewhat brief. I feel a bit more in solidarity with the homeless at this point now, too.
That being said, a couple more quick clips to stimulate debate:
Meanwhile, Democracy for America, the p Oh, and that reporter who's talking to Papa Bear, Mike Tolbin... he hath suffered the fury from my vuvuzela. I was kinda drunk one night last week, saw him in his tent (none of the other news companies set up under a shade tent, just Fox... odd) while he was preparing to go live. I confirmed that the lines from his camera were going to the Fox News truck up the street and lied in wait. Shortly after he went live, I came up around from one side blowing my vuvuzela, got in a "Fox lies!" shout while I was in the behind-him vicinity, and vuvuzela'ed my way off camera. He called me "a chucklehead in a cheesehead" I believe. To think I had been feeling bad about that for a couple days... Still haven't seen that footage, but would love to.
That is the funniest thing ever! Tell Tobin SCROG said hello. What a fuck nut he is. I enjoy reading your post and appreciate being able to get a first hand experience of what is going on. Thank you!
The people's occupation of the capitol building ended last night, per judge's order. The same judge's ruling found that the Walker administration had been unconstitutionally denying citizens access to the capitol as their government conducted business. (Yesterday Democratic legislators moved their desks out onto the capitol lawn in order to hold office hours with their constituents.) That case is onto its next steps.
Since last Thursday, when sleeping materials were no longer in the capitol, protesters have been sleeping outside of the capitol. We refer to it as Walkerville.
This is where I slept last night. Rain was imminent - it was a balmy 33 degrees when I arrived - so being a night owl worked to my advantage. I was lucky enough to snag a better location between some dumpsters and the official capitol-on-lockdown entrance - it was underneath stairs so I didn't get rained on. I still woke up sore and cold (despite triple/quadruple layering myself) this morning.
Speaking of this morning... do we have any listeners of the Stephanie Miller Show here? Mama has quite the fanbase in Madison. She had a caller, also named Stephanie, calling in from Madison this morning on my drive back home. She tried to keep her composure talking about this whole situation but couldn't, and just lost it on the air after about thirty seconds. Now, I'm not much of a crier - I don't think that's happened since my last surviving grandfather died in 08 - but I cracked. I lost it right there with the stranger on the airwaves right there in my car. My mother, who's a union worker in a school kitchen directly affected by this... usually she's emailing me corny jokes and pictures of kittens and stuff like that. These days it's forwarded pleas on behalf of public workers and links to recall state senators. Strange things are afoot at the front lines of democracy or class war or whatever the hell this is. I guess we're just blessed to have so many good people around to be strong through this with, because we ARE winning. This tea party motherfucker with a billionaire's hand up his ass wanted his bill passed as introduced on February 16th. Not on our watch. One day longer, as long as it takes.
A quick nutshell on what's new the past few days here: 1. Ongoing legal battle over capitol access. The judge in the case ruled that the Walker administration violated state constitution in keeping building closed while government conducted business; ordered protesters to vacate the capitol - which they did peacefully and voluntarily last night, ending 17 days of continuous occupation. Judge also ordered capitol building reopened to the public during normal hours beginning 8am Monday, with reasonable restrictions on protest hours/locations within the building, and items no longer allowed in... including "musical instruments or noisemakers" including my beloved vuvuzela 2. State Senate is still applying the pressure on the Wisconsin14. First it was changing paycheck rules to prevent their receiving direct deposits, but gradually picked up. The GOP senators have a lower quorum to decide Senate rules, since they are not the fiscal bill that the budget bills are. They are throwing everything they can at the AWOL legislators, and should be down to the kitchen sink any day now. $100/day fines, denying Democratic staffers access to copying machines, zeroing out the WI14's office expense accounts, revoking their parking privileges. They have authorized state police to use force in apprehending them (even the pregnant woman?) should they enter the state... while giving a wink and a nod to would-be vigilantes who might wish to seek them out of state. 3. In arguably the first act of violence this movement has seen, a Democratic Assemblyman was taken down by police trying to enter the building despite showing his ID
I hope nobody's surprised that Walker can only run a clampdown as efficiently as he runs a state. 3a. In another recent happening a few days ago, firemen responding to a call within the building were turned away at one door, made to return to their truck through a crowd, and drive around to the opposite side of the capitol to enter. Fortunately, it was not any kind of life or death situation - THIS time - but merely someone stuck in an elevator. 4. Recalls, recalls, recalls! Wisconsin law allows for an official to be recalled after one year in office, with signatures totaling 1/4 of those who voted in that official's jurisdiction the previous election. Currently eligible for recall in Wisconsin Senate: 8 of 19 Republicans & 7 of 14 Democrats. Currently facing recall in Wisconsin: 8 Republican & 7 Democratic state senators... in other words, all of them. In a state senate of 33 seats, we've got FIFTEEN recalls underway. I know a Utah-based group filed the paperwork for most of the Democratic recalls. I suspect this is related to (is?) the group that got involved in California's Proposition 8, but haven't found anything yet to confirm this is the case. The group behind the WI14 recalls has also launched a recall effort against a Tuscon sheriff for his comments critical of increasingly heated/violent rhetoric in our politics. 5. This Saturday, as it seems every Saturday henceforth, we are trying to make the biggest rally in Wisconsin history. We did it last week with 100K+. Hopefully the media pays attention this time.
Meanwhile, Democracy for America, the political action committee founded by Howard Dean and led by his brother, is attempting to raise $150,000 in support of the 14 Senate Democrats by asking donors for contributions of $14. The group said it has raised $5,269 so far.
I just want to point out that this tactic would normally have been disallowed, but a judge said that since Scott Walker claimed their Illinois exodus was a "campaign tactic" the Wisconsin14 were able to use campaign funds for living expenses while out of state. This would not be happening were it not for a strategic blunder by Walker himself.
You do realize that... 1. Presidential candidates are required to make financial disclosures, 2. These disclosures are public record, and 3. This information is easily available on the internet Estimates of Dr. & Mrs. Dean's net worth ranges from 2.2 to 5 M-M-M-million (note the M there!) dollars Thanks for doing your research, jigawig. I am pleased to inform you that your margin of error here is a mere 20,000-45,400%. MINIMUM.
Not necessarily a news update: I ran into the woman from the music group who recruited me to do that YouTube video at the coffee shop last night. She told me their video is up, and here it is:
That's all for tonight. May I suggest once more checking out the interactive panorama I linked at the beginning of the post? I love it.
I wish you other 49 had politicians of all stripes running as scared as we do here in the Badger State...
Keep the updates Coming kdogg (or should I say Mr. Forward.) And hang tough. Many(most) of us are with you in spirit.
let me say that the people of WI are a great inspiration for many of us around the country who have no chance of stopping union busting locally. Too many states, like TN and OH, have sold the legislature to complete Republican control and now must live with the knowledge that we have no immediate control over their actions. They can just ignore us. But while we may be ignored, we will be silenced.
BTW, Unions are holding a rally in Nashville today in support of teachers rights. The legislature is trying to outlaw collective bargaining, strip TEA's representation off the State's retirement board (leaving them with no say in how their retirement savings are invested or dispersed), and weaken tenure rules.
Unfortunately we are expected about 2 inches of rain during today's rally. Let's hope this does not depress attendance too much.
Update: In Nashville we had 4000+ for our rally in the pouring rain. The march to the capital filled the street and took 10+ minutes to pass. By comparison, the Tea Party counter-protest had an estimate 200-300 people.
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Keep the updates Coming kdogg (or should I say Mr. Forward.)
Like so many nicknames, I didn't pick this one myself... for whatever reason, I felt possessed to get in the speakers' line when part of the rally was building up to the billed speakers at rush hour. I gave the guy my name, but either he forgot it or decided to introduce me as "Mister Forward" anyway. I didn't object. I don't really think I can at this point, since the Forward cheesehead has been my protest battle headgear since February 16th. It is my thing, just like we have the Silent Uncle Sam (he lost the tape since the judge ruled protesters out of the capitol, didn't think to ask why,) the Viking, the Imperial Walker, or these guys ^ This was taken when I ran into these guys on the capitol square - I was off to get a drink with them but we got separated when some cute drunk girl wanted to blow on my vuvuzela. I later saw them walking out semi-costumed from the gay bar next to the dive bar I'd wound up at. Fun times. But I digress... whatever it is, I've gotten mileage out of it. I actually thought these protests were going to peak the day I started wearing it. I thought it was just to make a statement, but I didn't realize just how much of a walking photo op it would unintentionally make me. It wasn't just people stopping me to ask for a picture, though that's how it started out... it kinda snowballed from there. I stopped getting asked so much and just noticed people pointing cameras/phones at me. I've gotten quite good at spotting this and being quick with a smile and pose with my sign. All the pictures starting coming back to me though... I first noticed it during the 100k rally, when a picture of me started getting sent TO me on twitter. After that, I started having random strangers coming up to me, asking if I was that guy in the pic their friend posted on Facebook with my picture there for comparison. I wound up getting attention from professional photographers and a couple of on-camera interviews. That band recruited me for their YouTube video. People have seen me in the background of other protest-related videos on YouTube and have come up to initiate conversations and ask questions about what I saw/think. It's weird. Hate to say it, but I'm bigger in that protest than I am in reality
A few quick cheesehead pics before I call it a night. The frozen tundra of Lambeau Field on Feb 8th, at the Return to Titletown celebration for the returning champion Green Bay Packers.
Feb 16th, my first day of participating, back when I figured this protest was ephemeral enough that I would only need to tape the letters on for a day. My photographer friend wanted a cheesehead-Viking solidarity shot. (Oh, and Mr. Viking there also wound up recruited for that "Cheddar Revolution" video...)
Feb 21st, before the first Tom Morello show of our protest.
Feb 26th, letting our voices be heard outside the governor's office.
Also Feb 26th, at the 100K+ rally... I am a damn fool for not getting her number As long as there's a bastid in need of running out of office, there's always hope I can rectify that mistake...
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I don't have a hand in this either way but I just want to say that the idea that the majority of the tea party people are people who don't give a Leno who are bussed in by billionaires is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Yes, the tea party has been hijacked by some degree by rich status quo idiots, but it was born out of the 2008 Ron Paul campaign originally and was/is a very large organic grassroots movement. Billionaires taking advantage of it doesn't change that.
Now, if you want to discuss the Tea Party politicians you would have a point - most of them haven't stuck to anything they were supposed to stand for asides from Rand Paul and a couple of others.
If you want to support one side, you don't have to make ridiculous, untrue attacks on the other side.
I don't have a hand in this either way but I just want to say that the idea that the majority of the tea party people are people who don't give a Leno who are bussed in by billionaires is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Yes, the tea party has been hijacked by some degree by rich status quo idiots, but it was born out of the 2008 Ron Paul campaign originally and was a very large organic grassroots movement.
If you want to support one side, you don't have to make ridiculous, untrue attacks on the other side.
Those people are not the majority anymore and have not been for some time now. Whatever voice they had has been shut out.
I don't have a hand in this either way but I just want to say that the idea that the majority of the tea party people are people who don't give a Leno who are bussed in by billionaires is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Yes, the tea party has been hijacked by some degree by rich status quo idiots, but it was born out of the 2008 Ron Paul campaign originally and was a very large organic grassroots movement.
If you want to support one side, you don't have to make ridiculous, untrue attacks on the other side.
Those people are not the majority anymore and have not been for some time now. Whatever voice they had has been shut out.
Not true at all and they're still a large part of it. Hence why Rand Paul and Justin Amash (congressman) were elected at all. Campaign For Liberty and YAL (both organizations born out of RP's 2008 campaign) are doing quite well.
Just because the big money backers have a louder voice in terms of getting media exposure doesn't mean everyone is being bussed around by billionaires. That's all I'm pointing out.
Those people are not the majority anymore and have not been for some time now. Whatever voice they had has been shut out.
Not true at all and they're still a large part of it. Hence why Rand Paul and Justin Amash (congressman) were elected at all. Campaign For Liberty and YAL (both organizations born out of RP's 2008 campaign) are doing quite well.
Just because the big money backers have a louder voice in terms of getting media exposure doesn't mean everyone is being bussed around by billionaires. That's all I'm pointing out.
Well Rand Paul is a different argument. However I think in the context of this discussion people are referring to the Wisconsin protests which are being funded by the Koch brothers on the Tea Party side.
Not true at all and they're still a large part of it. Hence why Rand Paul and Justin Amash (congressman) were elected at all. Campaign For Liberty and YAL (both organizations born out of RP's 2008 campaign) are doing quite well.
Just because the big money backers have a louder voice in terms of getting media exposure doesn't mean everyone is being bussed around by billionaires. That's all I'm pointing out.
Well Rand Paul is a different argument. However I think in the context of this discussion people are referring to the Wisconsin protests which are being funded by the Koch brothers on the Tea Party side.
Fair enough, though I fully believe that a large many of the protesters on the other side feel that what they believe is right and aren't just there because they're being paid to or bussed in for free.
I'm personally somewhere in between. I think the way Walker has handled the whole thing has been pretty awful. Terrible politics...
Post by suspendedzen on Mar 6, 2011 13:39:38 GMT -5
The pro-Walker rally crowds have been remarkably sparse. These rallies have ONLY occurred when the outside corporatist groups (Americans for Prosperity especially) have brought in their bus. But youre certainly welcome to "feel" whatever way makes you feel comfortable.
I was a charter member of C4L. I quit when they claimed, among other things, that only "statists" would want an open border & that we need a big wall and all that. Personally, I just dont want my libertarian groups to be working towards a dramatic increase in government size and expense.
I was sympathetic to the Libertarian Party in the 70's and early 80's and even voted Libertarian in 1984 but, for reasons I will never understand, most Libertarians and the national Party sold out to the Reagan idea of economic libertarianism at the expense of social libertarianism.
I my self am a proud social libertarian, believing that government has little right to invade our private lives. This is totally against the Reps authoritarian stance of warrantless searches, national ID, drug laws, sex and marriage laws, etc.
I am not an economic libertarian at all, believing that corporations are far more powerful than governments and far more dangerous as we the people have no say in their operations. Economies are always manipulated. In fact corporations are artificial, government created entities deriving the charters from us. They are endowed by their creators (us) with whatever right we decide and should be best designed to "promote the general welfare." They have no "human rights" like judicial conservatives would have us believe anymore than they have "bodies to incarcerate or souls to save."
That being said, most Tea Party members in the TN rally were here on their own as TN's decisions are pretty much a foregone conclusion (hope I'm wrong but...) but the vast majority just parrot FOXNews' corporate talking points.
And isn't it funny the O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush, Palin, Coulter, etc are all union members. O'Reilly even like his union saying they saved him from getting screwed out of his rightful benefits. Apparently his union is fine, just not yours.
I don't have a hand in this either way but I just want to say that the idea that the majority of the tea party people are people who don't give a Leno who are bussed in by billionaires is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
The pro-Walker rally crowds have been remarkably sparse. These rallies have ONLY occurred when the outside corporatist groups (Americans for Prosperity especially) have brought in their bus. But youre certainly welcome to "feel" whatever way makes you feel comfortable.
^ THIS
Americans for Prosperity = Koch-sponsored group (to the tune of $40mil in 2010) Stand With Walker = Koch-sponsored group (has co-sponsored bus tour around the state with AFP) Citizens United = another Koch-sponsored group you may have heard of...
So, today in Madison the Stand With Walker statewide bus tour concluded in Madison... at an Americans for Prosperity rally. The same Americans for Prosperity who sponsored the counter-protest to the first large Saturday rally here (they were an estimated 3-5K out of 70K+ people); the same Americans for Prosperity who sponsors buses to bring people to the annual tax day Tea Party rallies at the capitol...
Yeah, there's absolutely nothing to any accusations that billionaires are pulling strings by sponsoring Tea Party buses and/or rallies. Keep that wool over your eyes, buddy... it's how they got away with conning a (supposedly?) grassroots movement to begin with.
There is one man holding up both puppets. Pay attention to the man behind the curtain.
1. I have a newfound political boner for US Uncut, an organization which describes itself and its mission as: US Uncut is a horizontal movement. There are no centrally planned protests. If you want one in your town or city, you'll have to take it on yourself... Emphasis is on creativity and nonviolent, direct action. US Uncut is about taking action against unnecessary and unfair cuts to public services across the US. Washington’s proposed budget for the coming year sends a clear message: The wrath of budget cuts will fall upon the shoulders of hard-working Americans... In short, budget cuts demonstrate that Washington has abandoned ordinary Americans. But there is an alternative: Make corporate tax avoiders pay... I just signed up to take action against an unspecified target this weekend. The plan: protesters pretending to be shoppers will enter a tax-dodging retail store, and at a set time will set up a "class" (with a teacher giving a lecture about the corporation's tax avoidance and its consequences for society) obstructing said store's cash register area. I think this group represents a change we need to see in America. I suggest checking out their website (again, that's www.usuncut.org/) as I think they embody a big part of the solution to our current problems. 2. I am reluctant having our torch taken by ideologues from out of state, but the headline speaker at the Saturday rally was Michael Moore. This stage is set up about ten feet from where I'd set up camp in Walkerville before rain made me move. I am finally getting around to watching this now. If you've got a half hour, here is his speech:
A standout quote: "The nation is not broke, my friends. Wisconsin is not broke. It's part of the Big Lie. It's one of the three biggest lies of the decade: America/Wisconsin is broke, Iraq has WMD, the Packers can't win the Super Bowl without Brett Favre."
I don't have a hand in this either way but I just want to say that the idea that the majority of the tea party people are people who don't give a Leno who are bussed in by billionaires is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
The pro-Walker rally crowds have been remarkably sparse. These rallies have ONLY occurred when the outside corporatist groups (Americans for Prosperity especially) have brought in their bus. But youre certainly welcome to "feel" whatever way makes you feel comfortable.
^ THIS
Americans for Prosperity = Koch-sponsored group (to the tune of $40mil in 2010) Stand With Walker = Koch-sponsored group (has co-sponsored bus tour around the state with AFP) Citizens United = another Koch-sponsored group you may have heard of...
So, today in Madison the Stand With Walker statewide bus tour concluded in Madison... at an Americans for Prosperity rally. The same Americans for Prosperity who sponsored the counter-protest to the first large Saturday rally here (they were an estimated 3-5K out of 70K+ people); the same Americans for Prosperity who sponsors buses to bring people to the annual tax day Tea Party rallies at the capitol...
Yeah, there's absolutely nothing to any accusations that billionaires are pulling strings by sponsoring Tea Party buses and/or rallies. Keep that wool over your eyes, buddy... it's how they got away with conning a (supposedly?) grassroots movement to begin with.
There is one man holding up both puppets. Pay attention to the man behind the curtain.
Forward!
The funny part is that I totally agree with you about the elites pulling the strings of the people on both sides. However, all I said was that the tea party movement is largely grassroots and organic still. I also said that yes, it has been hijacked in part by rich people attempting to influence it. So not sure what you're referring to.
And yes, I admit initially I thought that Jess was referring to the tea party movement as a whole, not just in regards to this situation. So perhaps that's my own fault for misinterpreting if that is all he meant.
1. I have a newfound political boner for US Uncut, an organization which describes itself and its mission as: US Uncut is a horizontal movement. There are no centrally planned protests. If you want one in your town or city, you'll have to take it on yourself... Emphasis is on creativity and nonviolent, direct action. US Uncut is about taking action against unnecessary and unfair cuts to public services across the US. Washington’s proposed budget for the coming year sends a clear message: The wrath of budget cuts will fall upon the shoulders of hard-working Americans... In short, budget cuts demonstrate that Washington has abandoned ordinary Americans. But there is an alternative: Make corporate tax avoiders pay... I just signed up to take action against an unspecified target this weekend. The plan: protesters pretending to be shoppers will enter a tax-dodging retail store, and at a set time will set up a "class" (with a teacher giving a lecture about the corporation's tax avoidance and its consequences for society) obstructing said store's cash register area. I think this group represents a change we need to see in America. I suggest checking out their website (again, that's www.usuncut.org/) as I think they embody a big part of the solution to our current problems. 2. I am reluctant having our torch taken by ideologues from out of state, but the headline speaker at the Saturday rally was Michael Moore. This stage is set up about ten feet from where I'd set up camp in Walkerville before rain made me move. I am finally getting around to watching this now. If you've got a half hour, here is his speech:
A standout quote: "The nation is not broke, my friends. Wisconsin is not broke. It's part of the Big Lie. It's one of the three biggest lies of the decade: America/Wisconsin is broke, Iraq has WMD, the Packers can't win the Super Bowl without Brett Favre."
Forward!
Interesting argument. Sounds like Moore has been co-opted by the puppet masters. Interesting that you would feed off of this message.
Michael Moore does not help your movement at all KDogg. The only thing he is good for is spewing bullshit. Kinda like him crying on camera because Charlton Heston didn't remember being at a NRA rally after columbine. Charlton Heston had Alzheimer's, maybe that had something to do with him not remembering.
Michael Moore is like Glenn Beck for liberals, he is moronic, he bends the facts to support his ideas, and he blatantly lies at times. How anyone can argue with the national (or state) deficit is beyond me. Yeah Michael, some Americans (NOTE THAT NS on the end?) are not broke, some are very well off, but America (the country, not its people) has been living beyond its means for a very very long time.
Michael Moore does not help your movement at all KDogg. The only thing he is good for is spewing bullhonkey. Kinda like him crying on camera because Charlton Heston didn't remember being at a NRA rally after columbine. Charlton Heston had Alzheimer's, maybe that had something to do with him not remembering.
Michael Moore is like Glenn Beck for liberals, he is moronic, he bends the facts to support his ideas, and he blatantly lies at times. How anyone can argue with the national (or state) deficit is beyond me. Yeah Michael, some Americans (NOTE THAT NS on the end?) are not broke, some are very well off, but America (the country, not its people) has been living beyond its means for a very very long time.
