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So it turns out that it's too expensive for Sanuk to get in as a vendor at Bonnaroo and they won't be there this year.
Given their reaction to Matt Sloan's death, this extremely disappointing to me.
I don't understand how this is possible? The craft artist, etc. in Centeroo can't be paying high dollar for their spots.
I'm assuming it's a corporate issue? Meaning they would have to pay more because they are a fairly well known corporation? ???
Only because we are trying to get a vendor spot do I feel comfortable replying to this. The "crafter" vendors, which consists of handmade items, are a pretty decent price inside Centeroo, however if you are selling non-handmade items the cost is quite a bit higher. Alot of your cost depends on where you want placed, we submitted for a spot by the main stage for a non-crafter and it's close to $3,000. A spot around Planet Roo goes for much more, and a spot out in the campgrounds goes for less.
It is a little early for that yet . First off what did they sat Cdevaney? I would have assumed a booth selling shoes to have to pay 5-10 grand plus a percentage, was it a lot more or less than that and what is acceptable? Secondly after we figure that out all we will need to do is draw up a schedule of different people to post this on Bonnaroo's facebook page every thirty minutes or so for 24 hours. I imagine that will get their attention.
Post by fearthestupid on Mar 15, 2011 15:11:25 GMT -5
if we want to help them why not do it guerrilla style- get some banners, posters, handbills whatever and put em up ourselves? not in centeroo mind you thats probably not okay but put stuff on your vehicle, campsite, graffiti wall, wherever. Not the same as selling them onsite but certainly gets the name noticed with more..."casual"...bonnaroo guests...if they can provide material i would certainly spend a couple mornings passing out stuff on my walk to shakedown for that iced coffee...
It is a little early for that yet . First off what did they sat Cdevaney? I would have assumed a booth selling shoes to have to pay 5-10 grand plus a percentage, was it a lot more or less than that and what is acceptable? Secondly after we figure that out all we will need to do is draw up a schedule of different people to post this on Bonnaroo's facebook page every thirty minutes or so for 24 hours. I imagine that will get their attention.
I'm trying not to stick somebody in the middle of this so bear with me:
One of their team members (not sure what they go by there) who had been very instrumental in the CarpeDiems was planning on attending and being part of the Sanuk booth. I asked him/her on Twitter if everything was all set and s/he said that it was out of his/her price range. I then followed up inquiring about Sanuk and was told that the money was fairly prohibitive but that they would be there in spirit.
Mind you, s/he was very professional about it so I don't want to get them dragged into something that bugged me, if that makes sense. For all I know the Bonnaroo folks may have negotiated down from their normal commercial fees but it still was too steep for their blood but as far as I'm concerned, Sanuk should be a partner for this event.
I think that they behaved exactly as we would hope that a company would in that situation and I don't think that it's out of line to say that they share a much stronger connection with the community than most of the "commercial" vendors there.
To be honest, I can see how they could look at a $3000 (plus labor, travel from California, food and accomodations) expense and decide that they're not going to sell enough shoes to offset that.
Is there something we can do? At $10 each, do we have 300 people that could cover for them, for example?
Ok, that makes sense it always good to get a context on things. I wonder how it would go if they were willing to go charity on the product proceeds, and we were willing to chip in on some expenses for personnel, and some help running the booth?
I emailed Rachel today, and again she gave a quick response saying this,
Hey Bryan,
Great to hear from you! It is indeed true that Sanuk and I are not coming to Bonnaroo, we spoke to the organizers there and unfortunately it just didn’t fit in our budget. We are growing so rapidly these days that we just don’t always have enough arms and legs to do everything we want to do L I hope it is a great show! And if there is anything I can supply, some Sanuk tees or something, please don’t’ hesitate to ask.
Best,
Rachel
From: bryan scroggie [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:35 AM To: Rachel Gross Subject: CarpeDM
Hey Rachel, I got my Sanuks a while back and I love them. I picked up an extra pair of CarpeDM for a friend and I got some Beer Cozy flops, they Rock! Thank you for the coupon. I hope all is well. On Inforoo, I saw a post today and it was about Sanuks not coming to Bonnaroo? This is an unfortunate turn of events. Is this true? Many of us we be sad if it is. Can we change this? How can the people of Inforoo help? Thanks for everything!
Scrog
I am sure with Vendor fees, cross country travel expenses(would have to bring a lot of shoes), hotel, food, ect. it gets pricey. Not sure from a business point if the trip is profitable.
so where do we go from here? I am not talking NO for an answer, not yet. I do not want to " stick somebody in the middle" either, but what harm could a little squeaky wheel cause?
EDIT:My spelling sucks, I can only imagine how bad my grammar is.
Matt's mom had told me that Sanuk wasn't going to be at roo a few weeks ago. She said that Sanuk asked Roo to lower the vendor fee for them, and Bonnaroo wouldn't. Of course, this is all second-hand info.
At first I was disappointed that Sanuk wouldn't be there, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that Bonnaroo probably doesn't want to be associated with Matt's death any more than the have to be. (They also didn't want press/media coverage when we planted Matt's tree at the farm) It's understandable from a PR angle, as much as we may not like it. But I'm sure they would welcome Sanuk if they could pay the vendor fee... but I doubt they would make a special exception for them. Bonnaroo is still a business.
The best thing we can all do is honor Matt in our own way. We had discussed handing out bottles of water with custom labels for free at Bonnaroo. Does anyone still want to do that? I will chip in some money to pay for it all if someone will spear-head the effort.
Matt's mom had told me that Sanuk wasn't going to be at roo a few weeks ago. She said that Sanuk asked Roo to lower the vendor fee for them, and Bonnaroo wouldn't. Of course, this is all second-hand info.
At first I was disappointed that Sanuk wouldn't be there, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that Bonnaroo probably doesn't want to be associated with Matt's death any more than the have to be. (They also didn't want press/media coverage when we planted Matt's tree at the farm) It's understandable from a PR angle, as much as we may not like it. But I'm sure they would welcome Sanuk if they could pay the vendor fee... but I doubt they would make a special exception for them. Bonnaroo is still a business.
The best thing we can all do is honor Matt in our own way. We had discussed handing out bottles of water with custom labels for free at Bonnaroo. Does anyone still want to do that? I will chip in some money to pay for it all if someone will spear-head the effort.
I can print them if someone can design them, then everyone who has a case at the brunch can get 24 labels to put on bottles and hand out.
Great, Jess! I will chip in for printing costs. Can anyone design this? I would personally like to see the labels have a brief version of Matt's story and a link to Matt's Trees website.
What's the story on this? I honestly feel like dedicating the shoes to him was more than enough and that they were amazing about it, but just wanted everyone else's take.
Sanuk has been amazing in honoring Matt with the shoe and personally responding to so many of us. I'm not sure what else we could ask of a company.
Personally, I believe that to get Matt's Trees up and running, it should be up to <b>us</b>, Matt's friends, to spread the word and help raise funds. We have some opportunities to do some good and honor Matt, and we should run with that.
Post by trektheplanet on Mar 16, 2011 10:25:03 GMT -5
I think that going the route of water bottles for Matt's Trees is the direction to head. Sanuk has been great with their support, But the focus should be on Matt's Trees. Let's not digress & loose sight of the objective. Just my 2 cents. ps. I am willing to donate water bottles.
Matt's mom had told me that Sanuk wasn't going to be at roo a few weeks ago. She said that Sanuk asked Roo to lower the vendor fee for them, and Bonnaroo wouldn't. Of course, this is all second-hand info.
At first I was disappointed that Sanuk wouldn't be there, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that Bonnaroo probably doesn't want to be associated with Matt's death any more than the have to be. (They also didn't want press/media coverage when we planted Matt's tree at the farm) It's understandable from a PR angle, as much as we may not like it. But I'm sure they would welcome Sanuk if they could pay the vendor fee... but I doubt they would make a special exception for them. Bonnaroo is still a business.
The best thing we can all do is honor Matt in our own way. We had discussed handing out bottles of water with custom labels for free at Bonnaroo. Does anyone still want to do that? I will chip in some money to pay for it all if someone will spear-head the effort.
I can print them if someone can design them, then everyone who has a case at the brunch can get 24 labels to put on bottles and hand out.
Is there a website out there where someone can design these, and people can then print their own off/buy as many as they want? Something cafepress-esque? That would take the burden off of having just a few people trying to work it all out themselves.