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Post by The Wookie Monster on Jul 6, 2011 14:38:47 GMT -5
Thinking about pop headliners: I'm betting roo doesn't book one until 2013. Thing is, one of the best acts apparently this year's roo was Robyn and she's suppose to have an album coming out later this year. Bonnaroo tends to invite back people who do well at the festival and then see their popularity rise throughout the year: aka Mumford, Phoenix, MGMT, MMJ, etc. So I think Robyn will be the big pop act the upcoming year with more pop bands being on the lineup before they book a Beyonce, Gaga type artist. Therefore I replace Beyonce with:
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Soundgarden - Furthur - OutKast - Wilco - Allman Brothers Band
Post by The Wookie Monster on Jul 6, 2011 16:37:07 GMT -5
Has more to do with Furthur closing the fest out than anything, and OutKast being either late night or pre headliner to RHCP, and Daft being late night.
No way Futhur headlines over Daft Punk or Outkast.
I still think everyone has a over inflated notion of Daft Punk, unless they seriously ramp up the show and put out a new album they are not going to be any higher than Kanye.
Post by RadioSpirit on Jul 6, 2011 17:10:00 GMT -5
I think Daft Punk could go either way, but they'd most likely get #4 booking and play a LN What that would be only partially unopposed.
The fact that we're having an argument about DJ JazzyJeff headlining Bonnaroo makes me lose faith in these boards, Bonnaroo, the internet, and humanity.
Saying "because he's Will Smith" is meaningless, because it would never happen. Has anyone non-ironically listened to that music in over a decade? I can't even put an argument together against because it's so ridiculous.
If DJ jazzy Jeff and will smith were at Roo it would be on What at like 2pm. But it probably will never happen and probably would be awful. There has been some dumb predictions on here lately though. I understand being wishful with predictions cause I get wishful but these Will Smith, Flo Rida, REO Speedwagon type prediction/wishes are just plain stupid.
No way Futhur headlines over Daft Punk or Outkast.
I still think everyone has a over inflated notion of Daft Punk, unless they seriously ramp up the show and put out a new album they are not going to be any higher than Kanye.
If you think Daft Punk wouldn't headline over Further you're wrong.
Post by nodepression on Jul 6, 2011 18:01:35 GMT -5
Since we all got burned in 2010 after way too many lofty expectations, there's been a swing the other way to ridiculously terrible (but still more probable then whatever we thought in 2010) headliner predictions.
Furthur probably would be billed higher just cause they would close out Sunday an Daft Punk would be LN What. But if Daft Punk had an actual headlining spot they would definitely be billed higher. Daft Punk being 4th on the lineup would make the top of bill look really really stout though
Post by nodepression on Jul 6, 2011 18:11:02 GMT -5
I will never understand why Jay-Z got booked 4th, but I don't think What late night is necessarily 4th, Phish was second on the bill in 09. I know that was a special circumstance, but still.
Post by RadioSpirit on Jul 6, 2011 18:22:27 GMT -5
Yeah, but they were also Sunday headliner. I think they just put the 3 "headliner spot" acts first no matter what. If Widespread Panic had played 2010 it would have read: Kings of Leon - Stevie Wonder - Widespread Panic - JAY-Z (Which is even more ridiculous that what it actually was) Obviously, Jay-Z is much bigger than Panic, but I think they would still have listed them like that. To say Furthur is headlining "over" Daft Punk isn't the right way to look at it.
The slot that Daft Punk fits best is Late Night What, while Furthur's would be Sunday headliner. The billing reflects the slot they're playing, rather than they're respective size.
I will never understand why Jay-Z got booked 4th, but I don't think What late night is necessarily 4th, Phish was second on the bill in 09. I know that was a special circumstance, but still.
Yeah, but Phish was LN What without a traditional headliner billed higher preceding them...Jay-Z was preceded by Stevie Wonder.
I still think everyone has a over inflated notion of Daft Punk, unless they seriously ramp up the show and put out a new album they are not going to be any higher than Kanye.
If you think Daft Punk wouldn't headline over Further you're wrong.
I think this just a conversation not worth having with you. Though your outright dismissal of bands you do not like is as asinine as it is ignorant. How about you just go make us some waffles.
If you think Daft Punk wouldn't headline over Further you're wrong.
I think this just a conversation not worth having with you. Though your outright dismissal of bands you do not like is as asinine as it is ignorant. How about you just go make us some waffles.
This post brought to you complete with a hint of condescension.
DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince... I mean, really? REALLY? Oh yeah, I forgot that this masterpiece:
would be way better than this crap:
Just when I was starting to think people on this board had good taste in hip-hop, I go and see something like that. No, by all means, Roo should book a corny-as-hell clean rap duo from 20+ years ago instead of something contemporary and artistically relevant. Keep that shit in the comedy tent where it belongs.
No way Futhur headlines over Daft Punk or Outkast.
I still think everyone has a over inflated notion of Daft Punk Furthur
Fixed that for you ;D
Honestly, it's not even close IMO. Furthur plays theaters and ampitheaters, Daft Punk plays arenas. Furthur is really only famous because of the band two of its members used to be in, not because of what they've done as Furthur. If this debate was The Dead vs. Daft Punk, then I'd be inclined to agree with you. But Daft Punk is without contest the biggest electronic act in the world, and has been for a decade now - they're massive. And before anyone chews into me for this, I want to say that Furthur is by far my #1 choice to close out Sunday. I just don't think they have the widespread fan base or name recognition that Daft Punk does. When Furthur plays to a crowd like this, then we can talk:
However, Bonnaroo has been known to do some weird billing in the past (DMB and KOL over Jay-Z and Stevie last year made absolutely zero sense to me), so I could really see Daft Punk being billed anywhere in the top four names if they play - though I think they will most likely be the second or third name instead of the first or fourth.
WSP ended up billed 3rd or 4th(cant remember if they were ahead of Jack Johnson or not), Kanye was 5th.
Leno, yeah - that's what I was thinking of - my bad. '08 was Pearl Jam * Metallica * Jack Johnson * WSP * Kanye West. And yes, I know Jack Johnson was originally slated to close out Sunday, but they could have put WSP before or after his name, and they chose to keep a non-headliner billed third.
Then again, I'm not sure if they were contractually obligated to keep him at third even after his demotion to pre-headliner, but I wouldn't imagine so.
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WSP ended up billed 3rd or 4th(cant remember if they were ahead of Jack Johnson or not), Kanye was 5th.
Leno, yeah - that's what I was thinking of - my bad. '08 was Pearl Jam * Metallica * Jack Johnson * WSP * Kanye West. And yes, I know Jack Johnson was originally slated to close out Sunday, but they could have put WSP before or after his name, and they chose to keep a non-headliner billed third.
Then again, I'm not sure if they were contractually obligated to keep him at third even after his demotion to pre-headliner, but I wouldn't imagine so.
WSP was a late add, hard to go on billing there. Right now Furthur is a much bigger band on the scene than they are. Also Daft Punk was playing arenas 4 years ago in the US ( www.setlist.fm/search?query=daft+punk&page=2 ). It is a stupid argument though if they bring out a new album and huge stage show maybe, if not they are just not that big a band. They have three albums none in the last 6 years. Big to the electro crowd maybe but unless something changes they are no bigger than any other band brought up here and smaller than quite a few. This is what I meant by inforoo over inflating the size of a band because people want to see them play 'roo.
For that matter without a change of some point they could easily be a late night Which at Bonnaroo. I will even go out on a limb and say Arcade Fire has more name recognition than they do.
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-When I Hear My Name -Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground -Blue Orchid -Passive Manipulation -Red Rain -Death Letter -My Doorbell -Hotel Yorba -Same Boy You've Always Known -Lovesick -Little Ghost -We're Going to Be Friends -The Hardest Button to Button -Black Math -The Nurse -I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
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Leno, yeah - that's what I was thinking of - my bad. '08 was Pearl Jam * Metallica * Jack Johnson * WSP * Kanye West. And yes, I know Jack Johnson was originally slated to close out Sunday, but they could have put WSP before or after his name, and they chose to keep a non-headliner billed third.
Then again, I'm not sure if they were contractually obligated to keep him at third even after his demotion to pre-headliner, but I wouldn't imagine so.
WSP was a late add, hard to go on billing there. Right now Furthur is a much bigger band on the scene than they are. Also Daft Punk was playing arenas 4 years ago in the US ( www.setlist.fm/search?query=daft+punk&page=2 ). It is a stupid argument though if they bring out a new album and huge stage show maybe, if not they are just not that big a band. They have three albums none in the last 6 years. Big to the electro crowd maybe but unless something changes they are no bigger than any other band brought up here and smaller than quite a few. This is what I meant by inforoo over inflating the size of a band because people want to see them play 'roo.
For that matter without a change of some point they could easily be a late night Which at Bonnaroo. I will even go out on a limb and say Arcade Fire has more name recognition than they do.
Please tell me how going away for years and years while you're one of the most requested bands for every festival deflates value.
I don't argue for this stuff just because I like a band, it's because it makes sense. I'm not saying James Blake would headline Roo over Furthur just because you think I don't like the Dead for some reason.
Post by RadioSpirit on Jul 6, 2011 20:28:21 GMT -5
Daft Punk has reached that status where not releasing things for a while doesn't make their draw dip. They're not some mid-level band that hasn't released an album in ages. There are a lot of headliners out there that haven't released anything in forever, or the stuff that they have released has been widely ignored. The Rolling Stone, Paul McCartney, Tom Petty, etc. Obviously Daft Punk isn't as big as these names, as could easily be 4th on the bill, but to think that their appeal will have dropped without an album is inaccurate. Every hint of news from their camp starts a frenzy of rumours, and that 6 year gap would be almost like a reunion. Plenty of bands reunite years after they last performed and play huge venues. Nobody is asking when Furthur last made something relevant, because they've acheived a level where they can tour on their past work.
WSP was a late add, hard to go on billing there. Right now Furthur is a much bigger band on the scene than they are. Also Daft Punk was playing arenas 4 years ago in the US ( www.setlist.fm/search?query=daft+punk&page=2 ). It is a stupid argument though if they bring out a new album and huge stage show maybe, if not they are just not that big a band. They have three albums none in the last 6 years. Big to the electro crowd maybe but unless something changes they are no bigger than any other band brought up here and smaller than quite a few. This is what I meant by inforoo over inflating the size of a band because people want to see them play 'roo.
For that matter without a change of some point they could easily be a late night Which at Bonnaroo. I will even go out on a limb and say Arcade Fire has more name recognition than they do.
Please tell me how going away for years and years while you're one of the most requested bands for every festival deflates value.
I don't argue for this stuff just because I like a band, it's because it makes sense. I'm not saying James Blake would headline Roo over Furthur just because you think I don't like the Dead for some reason.
Ok so I actually was getting back on to say it is hard for anyone to know what their demand is at this point. I do think however if they had played Bonnaroo as a late as 09, they would have been a LN Which band. Probably in NIN's spot. Now as things stand I think they would most likely be a 4th billed LN What act like JZ, and Kanye. However I still doubt they would "billed" over Furthur unless they got a new popular album and a one of the Claws from 360, or something similarly sized/impressive. To be fair there are rumors to that effect, but so far other than that late summer tour rumored to be happening right now we have not heard a lot from their camp.
So off the subject a little has anyone seen a non festival Daft Punk show? I wonder how long they typically play for, the new 90 minute headliner standard may change things a little if that is the average length of a show. Anyway I was not trying to be to contentious, I would like to see them personally, there are just multiple scenarios of how it would play out.