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Post by RadioSpirit on Jul 27, 2011 17:13:35 GMT -5
The thing about Watch the Throne is, we don't even know if a "Watch the Throne set" exists. Will this tour be Jay-Z and Kanye performing a full concert as a duo? With them playing most of the songs off Watch the Throne and then a few others hits? Will it be a split show, with sets from both and then a joint performance of their WtT stuff? Until we know how this is going down, I think it's far too early to consider a joint Kanye/JayZ set as a realistic possbility.
The thing about Watch the Throne is, we don't even know if a "Watch the Throne set" exists. Will this tour be Jay-Z and Kanye performing a full concert as a duo? With them playing most of the songs off Watch the Throne and then a few others hits? Will it be a split show, with sets from both and then a joint performance of their WtT stuff? Until we know how this is going down, I think it's far too early to consider a joint Kanye/JayZ set as a realistic possbility.
If they are touring as "Watch the Throne" then I could see them doing a "Watch the Throne" set at Bonnaroo. Whatever happens on the current tour is likely what would happen at Roo.
I think the most likely scenario is that they are on stage together for a majority of the time. They play a lot of the songs from Watch the Throne as well as some of the many songs that they appear together on (Jay feat. Kanye, Kanye feat. Jay). There may be some moments where say Kanye leaves for a few songs while Jay does some solo and then vice versa.
In my mind though, this tour will be them on stage together a majority of the time. I hope i'm right.
Post by The Wookie Monster on Jul 27, 2011 19:13:59 GMT -5
Regarding Sunday night closers, I know this has been discussed to death, but I think they could make a statement by having MMJ close out the festival next year only because WSP are no longer touring. WSP had been the house band for Bonnaroo the past ten years, and what better way to show people who the new house band is going to be by having MMJ close out next year. Either them or Furthur/The Dead. Dave Matthews & Friends can do it in 2013 after the world ends.
The thing about Watch the Throne is, we don't even know if a "Watch the Throne set" exists. Will this tour be Jay-Z and Kanye performing a full concert as a duo? With them playing most of the songs off Watch the Throne and then a few others hits? Will it be a split show, with sets from both and then a joint performance of their WtT stuff? Until we know how this is going down, I think it's far too early to consider a joint Kanye/JayZ set as a realistic possbility.
They're touring together in promotion of the album. I think it's safe to assume there is a "What the Throne" set. It will most likely include their bigger solo songs, plus WtT songs, and Run This Town/Monster/Never Let Me Down in some arrangement or another, but if they play festivals then it will be whatever they're doing for all the dates in support of them album together...
I imagine they'll hit all the big festivals. I can't imagine they don't hit 2 of Coachella, Roo, Lolla, and ACL next year.
I'd say they're all but confirmed for Lolla; Kanye is from Chicago, and they've never booked Jay-Z.
The other three are less likely. Jay-Z just played Coach & Roo in 2010 and Kanye did Coach & ACL this year. That leaves Bonnaroo as the only one who wouldn't be getting Kanye back within a year and Jay-Z within 2.
I imagine they'll hit all the big festivals. I can't imagine they don't hit 2 of Coachella, Roo, Lolla, and ACL next year.
I'd say they're all but confirmed for Lolla; Kanye is from Chicago, and they've never booked Jay-Z.
The other three are less likely. Jay-Z just played Coach & Roo in 2010 and Kanye did Coach & ACL this year. That leaves Bonnaroo as the only one who wouldn't be getting Kanye back within a year and Jay-Z within 2.
Good point. I'd put money on Lolla at this point. I guess Roo has the best odds of the other 3, but I could see them skipping those 3 and opting for another festival getting to be that big, like Voodoo or Outside Lands, just because of the timing issue. Then adding another leg of the tour in 2013 that involves stops at both Coachella and Roo. Just a thought.
Thing is, I did think RHCP were a possibility but after hearing Rain Dance Maggie being their possible best song off this upcoming album, well, let's say their best days are behind them and don't think they want to play Bonnaroo and Bonnaroo couldn't care less about them.
Now Otis off WTT is pretty freaking good and Kanye has had a phenom type year, and having Jay-Z with him will keep his ego in check. So, I'm going with Watch the Throne as your main headliner in 2012. Wilco's status just depends on their upcoming album.
"Sorry Mr. Keidis, we know the ink is still drying on the contract but your new song sucks so we're going to have to pull you out of the festival this year. We'll probably replace you with Watch The Throne, that new song Otis is fire!"
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Thing is, I did think RHCP were a possibility but after hearing Rain Dance Maggie being their possible best song off this upcoming album, well, let's say their best days are behind them and don't think they want to play Bonnaroo and Bonnaroo couldn't care less about them.
Now Otis off WTT is pretty freaking good and Kanye has had a phenom type year, and having Jay-Z with him will keep his ego in check. So, I'm going with Watch the Throne as your main headliner in 2012. Wilco's status just depends on their upcoming album.
"Sorry Mr. Keidis, we know the ink is still drying on the contract but your new song sucks so we're going to have to pull you out of the festival this year. We'll probably replace you with Watch The Throne, that new song Otis is fire!"
Ha. I agree with Soul Man... That first single, complete with cowbell solo, is so shitty they should definitely have their license revoked.
Post by champagne cory on Jul 28, 2011 12:05:17 GMT -5
I think that the mold will change this year regarding headliners. In 2010 when Dave headlined Sunday the place remained packed, in 2011 when WSP headlined the place was half empty. Think of the amount of money 30,000 people would have spent in the last 4 hour of the festival on Sunday night if say, Arcade Fire headlined Sunday? I think next year our Jam Band headliner will be only visible Friday or Saturday late night on the Which. It's just a smart business decision.
Also, I don't think Kanye and Jay Z will be back to roo. I've got a feeling they are going to keep this in the stadiums.
I think that the mold will change this year regarding headliners. In 2010 when Dave headlined Sunday the place remained packed, in 2011 when WSP headlined the place was half empty. Think of the amount of money 30,000 people would have spent in the last 4 hour of the festival on Sunday night if say, Arcade Fire headlined Sunday? I think next year our Jam Band headliner will be only visible Friday or Saturday late night on the Which. It's just a smart business decision.
Also, I don't think Kanye and Jay Z will be back to roo. I've got a feeling they are going to keep this in the stadiums.
Pttttthhhhh! Fooey to whatever you said.
Jay-Z and Kanye West - OutKast - Wilco - My Morning Jacket - The Raconteurs - Allman Brothers Band
Post by champagne cory on Jul 29, 2011 12:53:17 GMT -5
Who knows, maybe we will get a Watch The Thrown set, but it might get cut short because Furthur doesn't want anyone playing while they are playing late night on The Which