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I may be confusing DMB shows, but in 2010 wasn't he beyond messed up? I mean, I know he generally rambles about nothing, but if memory serves, he wasn't even using words, just grunting and giggling a lot.
I was there, and he was being weird. Plus hit set just sucked in general...very underwhelmed.
1. DMB is cheaper to book than Foo Fighters... fact. DMB takes a moral stance against high ticket prices and therefore plays shows for less money.
2. Phish was a bigger get in '09 because it was a reunion. I doubt they'd be given 2 headliner slots this year when most of the people who would be going "for Phish" have probably seen 5ish shows since 09. If Phish ends up playing 2 nights, it'll be to save AC money.
3. If you don't think Foo Fighters would pull more people than DMB you're crazy... especially if they end up winning album of the year(let's face it, Arcade Fire was a bigger draw for the "casual music fans" after they won the Grammy). You can't go to a Foo Fighters show any given summer.
4. We need Dave Grohl on the farm to be our Superjam drummer
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1-1-12 Bassnectar NYE SHOW! 1-21-12 G. Love and Special Sauce 3-1-12 Radiohead 3-9-12 Experience Hendrix 5-15-12 Jack White @ The Ryman 6-7-12 Bonnaroo 6-19-12 Roger Waters presents "THE WALL" 7-7-12 Ringo Starr's 72nd Birthday Party Extravaganza at the Ryman
Alright alright...fair enough! Just out of curiosity...are Phish fans typically older or am I just in different social circles? Because I had barely heard of Phish before hitting up the festival circuit. Then again not many people I know are into jam bands in general...
Alright alright...fair enough! Just out of curiosity...are Phish fans typically older or am I just in different social circles? Because I had barely heard of Phish before hitting up the festival circuit. Then again not many people I know are into jam bands in general...
Alright alright...fair enough! Just out of curiosity...are Phish fans typically older or am I just in different social circles? Because I had barely heard of Phish before hitting up the festival circuit. Then again not many people I know are into jam bands in general...
Alright alright...fair enough! Just out of curiosity...are Phish fans typically older or am I just in different social circles? Because I had barely heard of Phish before hitting up the festival circuit. Then again not many people I know are into jam bands in general...
Could be your social circles as well. I went to Bonnaroo in 2005 having NO IDEA AT ALL who Widespread Panic was but I came to find they are like jamband royalty.
Only reason I got into Phish was because a good friend played them a lot in his car while they were on hiatus. Then when they reunited I got excited. But if you don't go to many festivals then I wouldn't be surprised to know you don't know much about Phish or how big they are (not saying you, specifically....just anyone in general).
Post by MonkeyRooster on Jan 13, 2012 14:49:39 GMT -5
not to mention, werent presale tickets the same as last year? theres no reason to believe ticket prices are going up.[/quote]
Date Item Delivery Method Qty Item Price Thu Jun 7 2012 BONNAROO 2012 GA TICKET - P1 - PRICE 1
Great Stage Park, Manchester, TN UPS Expedited $13.50 (USD) 1 $209.50 (USD) Total Item Cost $209.50 (USD) Total Service Fees $23.35 (USD) Total Delivery Charge $13.50 (USD) Total Charge $246.35 (USD)
^^^ price for 2012
Order Total $244.60 (USD) is price from 2011
I collected bottles and washed windows to make up the "massive increase".
Bonnaroo 2008-2013
0ct 11 Pearl Jam
Oct 12 Pearl Jam
March 16 Arcade Fire
April 29 Arcade Fire
Sept 4 Wilco
Sept 9 The Hold Steady
Oct 16 Pearl Jam
Oct 17 Gaslight Anthem
1-1-12 Bassnectar NYE SHOW! 1-21-12 G. Love and Special Sauce 3-1-12 Radiohead 3-9-12 Experience Hendrix 5-15-12 Jack White @ The Ryman 6-7-12 Bonnaroo 6-19-12 Roger Waters presents "THE WALL" 7-7-12 Ringo Starr's 72nd Birthday Party Extravaganza at the Ryman
Dude seriously, Phish isn't bigger than any other headliner. They can play 3.5 hours on Sunday, don't you think that's enough?
I think it's very selfish that you think that because your band is the biggest ever that they play 2 shows. Yes they did before, but why do it again? And Phish not on Sunday? That would be crazy.
It is not selfish of me and they are not "my" band. They do however have a HUGE touring fanbase in America. They pretty much started the American Summer festival model, and are a highly regarded act. In fact Bonnaroo was designed by their old festival team during the hiatus.
They are much much larger than the other Sunday acts over the past few years, and a lot of people would end up buying tickets for Phish and then having to leave on earlier on Sunday for jobs or whatnot. This is why I do not see them as just a Sunday band, plus the dates I saw said two sets so I imagine that is what we are going to get in some form or another.[/quote
************************************************** ^^ This is really interesting convo to me, and I think both of you guys make good points.
I'm kinda with Manders on the hope for just one, long (!!) Phish show -- 'cuz I think it would be even MORE epic that way. Selfishly, Sunday closer is just ducky for me since, in seven prior trips to the Farm, I've never left early. (I usually take a whole weeks' vaca around/thru Roo, just so I can fully drink it in and then have at least one "vegging" day on the backside, before whitecollar re-entry.)
And I think Jess is totally right about just how formidable the band's touring base is, and their influence upon what is the prevailing Summer Festival model. I think it might be just a bit overstated, though, to credit Phish with actually "creating" the model. That particular designation almost inarguably belongs to the Grateful Dead, back when Jerry was still alive.
When I was living in the D.C. area ('83 - '95), a large group of friends and I would follow them from RFK to Philly to Meadowlands to Long Island and even Boston, and we'd camp among many "familiar strangers" (if this is even possible...) at every stop. Sunday night shows sold out just as quickly as Fridays and Saturdays, and actually were among the band's most memorable performances.
Sure, some percentage of Phish's base would be bummed about a single Sunday night performance, on account of having to split Manchester earlier that day. But I think the proven mobility and sheer doggedness of that base would still "hold" what would probably be the largest closing crowd ever. Hell, if they played a Monday morning short-set before the grounds closed, there'd probably be at least an arena-size crowd that would stay for it.
Just one old fart's opinion.
(Edit: screwed up the quote-breaks part above. Sorry, all.)
My dislike for DMB has more to do with Dave Matthews than anything else. I think his band contains a lot of very talented members but I just think that he is a poopy songwriter who writes boring, easy music and then let's his band make up for his meh skills as a songwriter.
This, plus music is too poppy for me.
Today at 12:09pm, roofanintn wrote:
Today at 10:19am, mjb8797 wrote: I don't know one person who jams to Phish on their iPod.
I do, now you know 1.
count me as a 2nd. great for long car rides and dog walks.
Tres
Ok, so you're saying DMB's music is too poppy, but the Foo Fighters isn't? I'm really having a hard time with this. I would say the Foo Fighters suck more corporate fleshy banana, which makes me dislike them more than I dislike DMB.
EDIT: to LOL at fleshy banana!
and to say sorry, I didn't realize the convo had moved on to more important things like wolfmansjizz
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